Re: [Fxruby-users] Treelist -- can't add new items with data.

[Hugh S. S. E. E. <hg...@dm...>]

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, ly...@kn... wrote:

>
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 10:42:01 +0100 (BST), Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng
> <hg...@dm...> wrote :
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> > Thank you, but before I trouble you with that, is there any way to
> > get Fox to produce lots of logging?
>
> If you're running under Linux/Unix, and if you didn't build your FOX library

Solaris at the moment....
>
>     ruby hello.rb -tracelevel 101

Thanks, I'll give that a spin and let you know if this helps.
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> I'm not sure where that output goes on Windows (if it's printed at all)
> since you usually don't have a console present. And for that matter, I don't

Might be OK with rb files, but not rbw... Something to try later...

[....]
> > [If only one could ask it things, like SHRDLU!]
>
> Indeed.
>
> You know, it's funny, there was a Slashdot article just yesterday asking
> what people's expectations were for computers ten years ago (i.e. ten years
> ago, what were your expectations for computers in the year 2003?) And wasn't

I think I expected more full-parallax 3D displays, but didn't expect
the huge disk sizes so common now.  Better quality synthetic speech, too.

> the work on SHRDLU done in the sixties or something? I do wonder a little

1968. Other revisions up till about 73 from what I can find briefly
with google.

> bit about what the remaining challenges are that /do/ prevent us from just
> asking the computer questions and getting a response.

I think it is limited by how much the human writing the code can
hold in their head.  A constraint that varies from person to person!
>
> Of course, like Dilbert's pointy-haired boss, since I don't understand it, I
> assume it must be easy to do ;)

A bit like "Anything is possible for the person who doesn't have to
do it themselves" :-)  I gather that the parsing of English requires
info from the higher, semantic, levels and this increased the
complexity of the code in this case.  But I wouldn't mind asking it
using Ruby: it is the ability to respond_to?() methods like why()
that would really help! Keeping a history of decisions....
>

        Hugh