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[Frogface-general] Resource File in Frogface

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

FYI, I have added a new file called resource.qrc to the /src folder. This is 
used to compile any resources such as images, text files, qtscript files, etc 
into the frogface binary. For more info, here is a great guide at

http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/resources.html

[Frogface-general] Frogface - learning through debugging

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi folks,

Debugging a program is one of the best ways to learn the codebase quickly, 
I've put up a small guide and some mini-tutorials for this with respect to 
Frogface so you can check it out at the following link on the wiki.

Enjoy!

http://www.frogface.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.LearningThroughDebugging

[Frogface-general] Validation in frogface

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi Ganesh,

I've worked out how the validation works in Frogface. It's pretty 
straightfoward. There are two types. One type of validation is an input mask 
which you create when you design the form graphically in QT4 Designer. The 
other type is a QValidator that you set in the main form of the application - 
in our case that is DiveDashboard.cpp. I've been practicing using QValidators 
to help me do regular expression validation. Anyway, here is what will need 
to be done for the next phase of the project.

* Validate maxlength of Dive Centre in Dive Brief tab (
the file divedashboardwidget.ui will need to be opened in QT Designer and the 
maxLength property on the Dive Centre field set to something sensible like 30
characters

* Validate max depth to be a decimal value (to 1 decimal place) less than 
1000. I've just been working on this - it's nearly there - but you can enter 
numbers greater than 1000.0 which is incorrect. We'll have to make that 
regular expression work harder :-) It's around around line 360 in 
DiveDashboard.cpp. That's where the regex is defined. For more info, search 
for QRegExp in QT Assistant in order to help get more info on QT's regex's.
* Validate average depth to a decimal value (to 1 decimal place) less than 
1000. So basically, we must make it the validate the same way as max depth.

I don't think the Time In, Time Out and Surf Int fields are saving correctly 
so I'll look at that next. Would you like to look at this validation issue 
above? As ever there's no rush either way :-) I wonder will we have anything 
for the QT4 competition :-) :-) :-)

All the best,
Dec

Re: [Frogface-general] Learning QT : Got stuck.

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi there Arvind,

Just wondering, could you be missing
a 'const' keyword on your method signature - SIGNAL(textChanged(const QString
&))

In other words, should your GoToCellDialogImpl.cpp be like(see the code
between the *** tags)

 #include "GoToCellDialogImpl.h"

 GoToCellDialogImpl::GoToCellDialogImpl(QWidget *parent) : QDialog(parent)
 {
     ui.setupUi(this);
***     connect(ui.lineEdit, SIGNAL(textChanged(const QString &)), this,
  SLOT(enableOkButton())); } ***

 void GoToCellDialogImpl::enableOkButton ()
 {
     ui.buttonOk->setEnabled(TRUE);
 }

I got the idea that this may be the problem by looking at the samples code
that comes with QT4. I'm not sure if you have this (for me, on OpenSuse 10.2,
it's under the /usr/share/doc/packages/libqt4 directory - but if you're on
Windows I'm not sure what it would be). Just in case you don't have them I'll
zip them up and send them to you directly in a separte email.

If this doesn't do the trick zip up the code and send it on to me if you
 like. I'd be happy to take a look - I'm far from a QT4 guru however :-)

All the best and happy hacking,
Dec

On Thursday 03 May 2007 19:58, Arvind Purohit wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am new to QT so I am learning QT by book. But I got stuck in my first QT
> Designer example. I made a simple form with one label, one lineedit, two
> command buttons ok and cancel. Initially I disabled "Ok" button and created
> a slot to enable it. I connected "textChanged" signal of lineedit with this
> slot. But it is not working. During debugging I got the warning "warning:
> Object::connect: No such signal QLineEdit::textChanged(QString&)" which is
> very strange!
>
> Here is the code.
>
> Any help would be highly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Arvind
>
> /*********** GoToCellDialogImpl.h *********/
>
> #include "ui_GoToCellDialog.h"
>
> class GoToCellDialogImpl : public QDialog
> {
>     Q_OBJECT
>
> public:
>     GoToCellDialogImpl(QWidget *parent = 0);
>
> public slots:
>     void enableOkButton();
>
> private:
>     Ui::GoToCellDialog ui;
> };
>
> /*********** GoToCellDialogImpl.cpp *********/
>
> #include "GoToCellDialogImpl.h"
>
> GoToCellDialogImpl::GoToCellDialogImpl(QWidget *parent) : QDialog(parent)
> {
>     ui.setupUi(this);
>     connect(ui.lineEdit, SIGNAL(textChanged(QString &)), this,
> SLOT(enableOkButton())); }
>
> void GoToCellDialogImpl::enableOkButton ()
> {
>     ui.buttonOk->setEnabled(TRUE);
> }
>
> /*********** GoToCellDialogImpl.cpp *********/
>
> #include <QApplication>
>
> #include "GoToCellDialogImpl.h"
>
> int main(int argc, char **argv)
> {
>     QApplication app(argc, argv);
>
>     GoToCellDialogImpl dialog;
>
>     dialog.show();
>
>     return app.exec();
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Frogface-general] Learning QT : Got stuck.

[Arvind P. <pur...@ya...>]

Hi All,

I am new to QT so I am learning QT by book. But I got stuck in my first QT Designer example. I made a simple form with one label, one lineedit, two command buttons ok and cancel. Initially I disabled "Ok" button and created a slot to enable it. I connected "textChanged" signal of lineedit with this slot. But it is not working. During debugging I got the warning "warning: Object::connect: No such signal QLineEdit::textChanged(QString&)" which is very strange!

Here is the code. 

Any help would be highly appreciated!

Thanks,
Arvind

/*********** GoToCellDialogImpl.h *********/

#include "ui_GoToCellDialog.h"

class GoToCellDialogImpl : public QDialog
{
    Q_OBJECT

public:
    GoToCellDialogImpl(QWidget *parent = 0);

public slots:
    void enableOkButton();

private:
    Ui::GoToCellDialog ui;
};

/*********** GoToCellDialogImpl.cpp *********/

#include "GoToCellDialogImpl.h"

GoToCellDialogImpl::GoToCellDialogImpl(QWidget *parent) : QDialog(parent)
{
    ui.setupUi(this);
    connect(ui.lineEdit, SIGNAL(textChanged(QString &)), this, SLOT(enableOkButton()));
}

void GoToCellDialogImpl::enableOkButton ()
{
    ui.buttonOk->setEnabled(TRUE);
}

/*********** GoToCellDialogImpl.cpp *********/

#include <QApplication>

#include "GoToCellDialogImpl.h"

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
    QApplication app(argc, argv);

    GoToCellDialogImpl dialog;

    dialog.show();

    return app.exec();
}








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[Frogface-general] Phase one of Frogface complete

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Busy day in the frogface office, eh? It's not often this many emails fly 
around in one weekend :-)

The final piece of necessary basic functionality has been added to frogface - 
that is the buddy lists and dropdowns. While not quite revolutionary, it 
gives us a good platform from which to start improving the overall 
application. As a result of the changes, the following bugs (more correctly 
features) have been closed.

Bugs Closed:
1670691    Create the buddy list and required classes
1667034    Bind Buddy Dive Combo to a buddy table model

Dec

[Frogface-general] Patches list

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi,

I've just set up a patches list which traces every commit to the codebase on 
sourceforge. This can be subscribed to at 
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/frogface-patches however it will 
take another 6-8 hours to become active so wait until then if you want to 
subscribe.

This will be a convenient way to carry out peer review of any patches 
submitted. Although that isn't terribly relevant at the moment it should 
become more so as the project grows.

All the best,
Dec

Re: [Frogface-general] Adding Menus to the GUI

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi Ganesh,

I would call the menu "Help" and it would contain the following items

- Frogface Manual (this is a link to 
http://www.frogface.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.UserGuide) (tooltip: "Frogface 
Manual")
- Frogface.org (tooltip: "The Frogface.org website in all it's glory!")
- <separator>
- About (this would just be a QMessageBox which pops up a text string saying

"Frogface is an open source scuba dive log with a mission to bring you
a fast, fun, featureful dive log to capture your undersea adventures!
It is licenced under the GNU Public Licence (GPL) Version 2, 1991.
If it happens in the sea, log in in Frogface!"

This is just a rough draft, we can come up with something more fancy later.

So to answer your question, I think we should have a help menu which will pop 
up an about menu. By the way, there's probably no easy way at the moment for
you to call a browser so for the first 2 links just pop up a QMessageBox which 
lists the web address. Again, we'll come up with something better later.

Enjoy!
Dec

On Sunday 29 April 2007 04:32, you wrote:
> Hi Declan,
>
> I got your email through frogface mailing list.Then, to our menu, I will
> call it as FroggieMainWindow as you said me before. Ok.. Then, I have some
> work to do, I guess.. I will let you know if I've any other queries.
>
> Well, while making this email. I got one.. What's the content to be
> displayed in 'about' menu.. Also, shall I make just an 'about' menu or a
> 'help' menu which pops out a 'about' menu?
>
> You really did a good work by deploying a website for froggie... Keep
> going!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Ganesh.
>
> On 4/28/07, Declan McGrath <dec...@fr...> wrote:
> > Hi Ganesh,
> >
> > Finally got around to taking a proper look at your email. Had a bit of a
> > crazy
> > week at work. You gotta hate deadlines but I guess they're a necessary
> > evil!
> >
> > I'm (obviously!) posting this to the frogface mailing list. I hope that
> > this
> > list will work ok - This is effectively the first testing of this mailing
> > list since I switched web hosting companies. So there may be some
> > teething problems with this list.
> >
> > Anyway, I think your suggestion to inherit from QMainWindow is the best
> > approach. Perhaps call the inherited class something like
> > FroggieMainWindow -
> > I was going to suggest calling it DiveDashboardMainWindow but I think we
> > have
> > enough confusing DiveDashboard classes already! Then you should be able
> > to implement the about() functionality like you said. Is this ok?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dec
> >
> > On Saturday 28 April 2007 23:33, you wrote:
> > > Hi Dec,
> > >
> > > A few doubts,
> > >
> > > *Shall I create a new class mainwindow which inherits QMainWindow and
> > > keep all the main window things like about() in it? Or should I keep
> > > it within main() all these things?
> > >
> > > If you want me to do it within main().Then, all those examples given
> > > in QT are used by creating new classes. Can you tell me any
> > > suggestions for it?
> > > I guess, if I paste the code till what I did might give an idea of
> > > what I'm actually asking you for..
> > >
> > > Here's the code:
> > > QMenu *menu = mainWin.menuBar()->addMenu(QObject::tr("&File"));
> > > menu->addAction(QObject::tr("&Quit"), &app, SLOT(quit()));
> > > menu->addSeparator();
> > > QMenu *helpMenu = mainWin.menuBar()->addMenu(QObject::tr("&Help"));
> > > helpMenu->addAction(QObject::tr("&About"), &app, SLOT(about()));
> > >
> > > So, the Quit works fine. Also, A help menu is created which pops out
> > > an 'about' menu but for that function, where should that QMessageBox
> > > be present?
> > >
> > > Normally in the examples given, They have created a class which
> > > inherits QMainWindow and then created an about() in which QMessageBox
> > > is given.So, when in above code, about() is called, it invokes that
> > > function and displays the message.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> >
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[Frogface-general] Frogface website deployed

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hello,

As the late hours of the night tick by, I've finally gotten the Frogface 
website up and running. It's at www.frogface.org and has the most up-to-date 
website content on it. I haven't put links to the wiki on it yet but that 
doesn't really matter.

I've had a problem getting the navigation buttons working in IE. The site 
works fine in Firefox and Konqueror (hence presumably Safari) and checks out 
100% compliant in my CSS and HTML validators. So for now the site is in the 
unusual position that it supports pretty much everything but IE. I think it's 
something to do with IE's dodgy rendering of the z-index attribute but for 
now I couldn't give a sod so I just warn the user if the browse the site in 
IE.

Anyway, that's it for another day! Hope yer all keeping well.

All the best,
Dec

[Frogface-general] Adding Menus to the GUI

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi Ganesh,

=46inally got around to taking a proper look at your email. Had a bit of a =
crazy=20
week at work. You gotta hate deadlines but I guess they're a necessary evil!

I'm (obviously!) posting this to the frogface mailing list. I hope that thi=
s=20
list will work ok - This is effectively the first testing of this mailing=20
list since I switched web hosting companies. So there may be some teething=
=20
problems with this list.

Anyway, I think your suggestion to inherit from QMainWindow is the best=20
approach. Perhaps call the inherited class something like FroggieMainWindow=
 -=20
I was going to suggest calling it DiveDashboardMainWindow but I think we ha=
ve=20
enough confusing DiveDashboard classes already! Then you should be able to=
=20
implement the about() functionality like you said. Is this ok?

Regards,
Dec

On Saturday 28 April 2007 23:33, you wrote:
> Hi Dec,
>
> A few doubts,
>
> *Shall I create a new class mainwindow which inherits QMainWindow and
> keep all the main window things like about() in it? Or should I keep
> it within main() all these things?
>
> If you want me to do it within main().Then, all those examples given
> in QT are used by creating new classes. Can you tell =A0me any
> suggestions for it?
> I guess, if I paste the code till what I did might give an idea of
> what I'm actually asking you for..
>
> Here's the code:
> QMenu *menu =3D mainWin.menuBar()->addMenu(QObject::tr("&File"));
> =A0 =A0 menu->addAction(QObject::tr("&Quit"), &app, SLOT(quit()));
> =A0 =A0 menu->addSeparator();
> =A0 =A0 QMenu *helpMenu =3D mainWin.menuBar()->addMenu(QObject::tr("&Help=
"));
> =A0 =A0 helpMenu->addAction(QObject::tr("&About"), &app, SLOT(about()));
>
> So, the Quit works fine. Also, A help menu is created which pops out
> an 'about' menu but for that function, where should that QMessageBox
> be present?
>
> Normally in the examples given, They have created a class which
> inherits QMainWindow and then created an about() in which QMessageBox
> is given.So, when in above code, about() is called, it invokes that
> function and displays the message.
>
> Thanks,

[Frogface-general] New Wiki for Frogface

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi guys,

As promised, here is a wiki for Frogface. Phew! That's all my boring 
administrative stuff out of the way for a while!!! I ended up going with 
Steve's suggestion of using PmWiki which was really easy to set up.

The address is http://www.frogface.org/wiki/pmwiki.php

I've moved the Overview and API documentation here as well so the overview is 
a lot more readable than it was although I haven't changed the actual 
content.

Regards,
Dec
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[Frogface-general] Frogface documentation (User Guide and API)

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi folks,

I've just put a Frogface user guide (has some points relevant to developers) 
and the current Frogface API documentation online at the following links. 
Apologies for the delay getting them to you.

* User Guide (it looks like horrible but I'll format it properly when I get a 
wiki going)
http://www.frogface.org/frogfaceweb/overview.txt

* API Documentation
http://www.frogface.org/frogfaceweb/apidoc/annotated.html

Cheers,
Dec

[Frogface-general] Frogface.org IE Z-Index Bug

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi folks,

Quick question here. I've been doing some work on the Frogface website over 
the last few weeks as you probably already know. But I just can't get the 
navigation buttons to show up in IE (I'm currently testing against version 7 
but it doesn't work in 6 either). It's something to do with the z-index 
settings.

I have set the image buttons (eg. home, project details, contribute, etc) to 
have a z-index of 1 which should sit above other elements. It works fine in 
Firefox and Konqueror but not in IE. If someone can help with this css 
related issue, please navigate to the page 
http://www.frogface.org/frogfaceweb/default.html and elect to save it as 
a .htm (web page complete) in IE. Then see if you can get the buttons to 
appear by hacking the file and viewing in IE on your machine. There is a 
z-index bug in IE which causes it to handle z-indexes incorrectly from the 
standard - but I'm not sure on why - a quick google may help.

Any advice greatly appreciated,
Dec

[Frogface-general] Frogface Update

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi folks,

Just a quick email to bring you up to speed as to the latest status on the 
project.

I'm working on bug 1670691 "Create the buddy list and required classes" . I'll 
be documenting the work I do as it will be a good example of how the a module 
of the project works.

Ganesh (sgkumar) is working on bug 1670805 "Make #ifndef statements reflect 
namespace"

If anyone else wants something to work on, let me know and I'll find and 
assign you a suitable bug. There is no timeframe/expections on being assigned 
a bug - the purpose of assigning a bug to a developer is simply to help them 
focus on a single task.

Hope yer all keeping well!

Kind regards,
Declan

[Frogface-general] Test email -please ignore

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Test email -please ignore

[Frogface-general] Exciting Times - I'm actually going to try and write some code :-)

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi folks,

Hope yer all keeping well. Thanks for the tip on looking into PmWiki. I had a
quick look at the site and it sounds good so I'll give it ago when I get a
chance.

I've just looked at the Frogface code for the first time in months - I think
there could be a few of you out there who could make more sense of it than me
at the moment. What I'm going to do is implement the buddy list feature -
which is the second tab on the left pane. As I do so I will end up touching a
lot of the important areas in the codebase so I'll basically blog what I'm
doing as I go along and this should be a reasonable way of giving ye an
insite into how things work.

Now, what's an integer again...

Dec

[Frogface-general] Bugs online and website getting there

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi there folks,

Yet another week on the frogface front gone by but some progress has been
made. Mainly, I've been concentrating on the website with the graphic
designer and we've got a better version of the website at www.frogface.org.
The designer will be looking at fixing the following over the next week
- putting proper textual content on the website
- making the navigation buttons appear in IE (currently they only display in
Firefox or Konqerour)
- making the site quicker (it's currently full of big images which are
 resized with html tags)
- adding meta tags for search engines

Any feedback on that appreciated.


Now, back to the more interesting topic, that is, the frogface project
 itself. I've spent a while this week putting all the bugs in the bugs
 database. I'll be hoping to start making commiting patches to the codebase
 again over the next week or two - depending on my spare time!

I'd just like to make the point that I think it's fair to say that almost
every developer on the project is busy with work or other outside
commitments. I certainly am! And there will be times where people are able to
contribute a lot and times where they'll be able to contribute nothing. The
main when working on an open source project seems to be to hang in there
through the times where you don't have the time to devote to it and wait unit
you have more free time. I'm just raising the point in case anyone is
frustrated that there aren't code commits happening left, right and centre
over the last few weeks. I have a good excuse - I've just moved to a New
Zealand, started a new job and taken up Brazilian Jiu Jitsu :-)

Anyway, one final question I'd like to ask is if anyone can recommend a good
Wiki that I could run on a Linux server. Something PHP based would be good
that allowed you to restrict updates to project members. I've heard that
MediaWiki (the engine behind wikipedia) can be quiet involved to set up so
I'm looking for something quick and easy. I'd like to set one up to allow us
to centralise user documentation for frogface.

And also thanks to everyone who provided feedback on the 'Getting Frogface
Running on Windows'.

All the best,
Dec
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[Frogface-general] Latest Project Update

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi folks,

This has been another quiet week for me on Frogface. I'm up to my neck in=20
bloody C# webservices at work so I'll be glad to get a break from them in a
while and back to some nice C++ code!

=46rom the sounds of things, people are finally getting their development=20
environments up and running and succeeding in building QT and Frogface, whi=
ch
is great news. As you'll see from the GUI what's in place is really the
skeleton of an application; however records can be saved and loaded for most
entities - for example, dives and locations. I'm not too worried about gett=
ing=20
the eye candy in place as we can bolt this on later. However, one thing tha=
t=20
is bugging me is the fonts looking too big,which is causing text not=A0to f=
it=20
in labels and other widget correctly. When I first designed the=20
GUI=A0everything was fine but I think got a new computer and installed a=20
slightly later version of QT and KDevelop and for some reasons the characte=
r=20
sizes=A0didn't look correct after that.

Any ideas on a postcard, please :-)

I must get cracking on putting the list of existing bugs in the database=20
on=A0sourceforge so once I get a chance to stop moving I'll do that!

Until then, hope ye'r all keepin well!
Dec

[Frogface-general] Developing Frogface on Windows - Guide

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi there,

Apologies for the delay in getting a little help to those of you trying to
get froggie up and running on a Windows box. I\'m spent a while today
working through such issues and posted a guide on the forums at

https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4137155

The main problem people were having was the following  \"WARNING: Unable
to expand ~ in ~\\bin\". This was due to a bug in the
frogface/trunk/src/src.pro file. If you\'re developing on Windows, you can
fix this bug you need to open the file frogface/trunk/src/src.pro and
change the the line
	target.path = ~/bin
to
	target.path = ./bin

This issue doesn\'t affect *NIX developers because Linux and Unix will
happily interpret the ~ character as a user\'s home directory.

I haven\'t committed this change to the repository just yet because I
haven\'t tested it on Linux. So if you\'re on Windows just manually change
the file as outlined above.

Also, to build on Windows you need to use the mingw32-make command for
building instead of qmake. This and a couple of other points are outlined
in the \"Build Frogface\" section of the guide.

All the best,
Dec

[Frogface-general] Copyright Management of Frogface Codebase

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Ello there again,

I've been looking at issues such as copyright management of the Frogface code 
base. Yip! I'm a real sucker for punishment. In particular, I have some 
findings on the differences between Copyright Assignment and Joint Copyright 
Assignment - it is every bit as exciting a topic as it sounds! I've also come 
up with some ideas on where I would like Frogface to go with respect to 
copyright management.

I've put a post up on the forums at 
https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4135766

I'd ask and recommend that all developers take a look at this posting as it's 
important stuff. I'll be looking to come up with some sort of policy this 
week hopefully.

All the best,
Dec

[Frogface-general] What\'s been happening this week...

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Phew! It\'s been a pretty quiet week on the project front. From what I
gather from other people we\'re all pretty busy with outside interests
from fighting snow storms to boring work stuff!

I\'ve posted on the forums about what OS\'s and IDE\'s people are using to
get a feel for who still needs help setting up their environment. I know
there are some people out there still getting there windows IDE\'s up and
running as it\'s a little trickier than on *NIX.

Here\'s the post I put up on the project site
http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4135406

Speaking of project site\'s, the lovely princess geek has thrown together
a prototype design for a proper frogface website. It currently looks ok in
Firefox but pretty bad in IE due to some CSS issues and the page links
don\'t work. However, you can check the individual pages out at the
following links.

www.frogface.org
http://www.divilment.com/frogfaceweb/frogfaceProjectDetails.html
http://www.divilment.com/frogfaceweb/frogfaceDownloads.html
http://www.divilment.com/frogfaceweb/frogfaceContribute.html
http://www.divilment.com/frogfaceweb/frogfaceUserForums.html
http://www.divilment.com/frogfaceweb/frogfaceContactUs.html

She\'ll be doing more work on this over the next week. All comments
greatly appreciated.

Hope yer all good wherever you are. I\'m stuck in work wrestling with some
horrible Javascript issues. Yuk!!!

All the best,
Dec

[Frogface-general] Frogface Mailing List and Latest Project News

[Declan M. <dec...@fr...>]

Hi there folks,

This is a (somewhat longwinded) email going out to all Frogface developers and 
those interested in joining Frogface to announce that a mailing list for the 
project has (finally!) been set up.

If you would like to join the list simply go the the following page

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/frogface-general

Apologies for any inconvenience if you did not wish to receive this 
invitation. Please let me know and I'll leave you alone :)

It is intended that pretty much all discussion of a collaborative nature 
should take place on this list but feel free to contact me privately via email 
if you want to - particularly in the early stages of this project. But going 
forward it will be a lot more fun for everyone to work on Frogface if we 
communicate through the list. Also, there may be some bounced email occurring 
with the list if mailing list or email aliases are misconfigured. Hopefully 
not though! Let me know if you have any problems and I'll do my best to 
rectify them ASAP.

For those you are interested, my current priorities with the project are

1.) Sorting out licensing issues of how to licence frogface (trying to get 
this right is a real pain). All the 'experts' are recommending to get some 
form of copyright assignment or joint copyright assignment from contributors 
but there doesn't seem to be many freely available examples of forms to use 
for this purpose.

2.) Entering bugs in Frogface project bug database on SourceForge (I have an 
existing list on my harddrive). This should be pretty straightforward and 
should be completed by next week.

3.) Deciding how to accept patches from ye guys and integrate them into the 
code base. Any advice on this is greatly appreciated.

Once I've gotten things organised I plan to take questions from ye on the code 
over the next while. I'm sure that there will be lots of questions or 
suggestions and I'd like to get ye 'up to speed' before I go rushing to code 
myself. Therefore actual development may proceed as a relaxed pace over the 
next month and then speed up as everyone becomes more comfortable with the 
project.

Finally, I'd just like to say that I've really enjoyed dealing with everyone 
thus far. I think we've got a great bunch of people here and I'm really 
looking forward to us cutting some code in this project!

All the best,
Dec

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