From: Paul S. <pa...@si...> - 2011-12-20 20:50:20
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I recently upgraded my freevo box to a new motherboard that uses the AMD Radeon HD 6410D chipset. The only way I could get it to work was with the proprietary fglrx driver (the open source driver requires KMS which is a sure-fire way of crashing the kernel). But now I have the choice between 'tearing' of video and a very low framerate (when I check the no tearing option in the amdcccle tool). Does anyone know what is the right way of getting this video chipset to deliver the promised performance? Paul -- Paul Sijben |
From: Phil R. <tv...@ya...> - 2011-12-20 22:17:27
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Paul, I use the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 and like you, install the fglrx drivers. When you downloaded the driver from AMD, you should have also gotten the Catalyst Control Center automatically. It is the ATI graphics card control software and one of the display options is for "tear free" to reduce tearing. One difference between your system and mine is I'm running Xubuntu 11.10, not Ubuntu (I can't stand Unity). I get to the Catalyst Control Center under "Settings Manager". I can't remember what the Ubuntu equivalent of that might be, but it should be somewhere. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> To: fre...@li... Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? I recently upgraded my freevo box to a new motherboard that uses the AMD Radeon HD 6410D chipset. The only way I could get it to work was with the proprietary fglrx driver (the open source driver requires KMS which is a sure-fire way of crashing the kernel). But now I have the choice between 'tearing' of video and a very low framerate (when I check the no tearing option in the amdcccle tool). Does anyone know what is the right way of getting this video chipset to deliver the promised performance? Paul -- Paul Sijben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev _______________________________________________ Freevo-users mailing list Fre...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users |
From: Phil R. <tv...@ya...> - 2011-12-21 03:42:10
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Sorry, I need to slow down my thought process when reading. Obviously, the amdcccle tool is the Catalyst Control. The only other idea i can suggest is to use the vlc plugin. I do have better results using vlc, instead of mplayer. I'm assuming you do have at least 2.2 ghz dual core processor, that's the only other thing I can think of that could effect frame rate. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Raymond <tv...@ya...> To: "fre...@li..." <fre...@li...> Cc: ' Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? Paul, I use the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 and like you, install the fglrx drivers. When you downloaded the driver from AMD, you should have also gotten the Catalyst Control Center automatically. It is the ATI graphics card control software and one of the display options is for "tear free" to reduce tearing. One difference between your system and mine is I'm running Xubuntu 11.10, not Ubuntu (I can't stand Unity). I get to the Catalyst Control Center under "Settings Manager". I can't remember what the Ubuntu equivalent of that might be, but it should be somewhere. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> To: fre...@li... Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:50 PM Subject: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? I recently upgraded my freevo box to a new motherboard that uses the AMD Radeon HD 6410D chipset. The only way I could get it to work was with the proprietary fglrx driver (the open source driver requires KMS which is a sure-fire way of crashing the kernel). But now I have the choice between 'tearing' of video and a very low framerate (when I check the no tearing option in the amdcccle tool). Does anyone know what is the right way of getting this video chipset to deliver the promised performance? Paul -- Paul Sijben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev _______________________________________________ Freevo-users mailing list Fre...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev _______________________________________________ Freevo-users mailing list Fre...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users |
From: Paul S. <pa...@si...> - 2011-12-21 06:43:26
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Phil, I am using an AMD A4-3400 which is apparently only 800Mhz (but indeed dual core). However CPU load is not the limiting factor (according to top). I will try VLC as you suggest. Paul On 12/21/2011 04:42 AM, Phil Raymond wrote: > Sorry, I need to slow down my thought process when reading. Obviously, the amdcccle tool is the Catalyst Control. The only other idea i can suggest is to use the vlc plugin. I do have better results using vlc, instead of mplayer. I'm assuming you do have at least 2.2 ghz dual core processor, that's the only other thing I can think of that could effect frame rate. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phil Raymond <tv...@ya...> > To: "fre...@li..." <fre...@li...> > Cc: ' > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? > > Paul, > > I use the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 and like you, install the fglrx drivers. When you downloaded the driver from AMD, you should have also gotten the Catalyst Control Center automatically. It is the ATI graphics card control software and one of the display options is for "tear free" to reduce tearing. One difference between your system and mine is I'm running Xubuntu 11.10, not Ubuntu (I can't stand Unity). I get to the Catalyst Control Center under "Settings Manager". I can't remember what the Ubuntu equivalent of that might be, but it should be somewhere. > > Phil > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> > To: fre...@li... > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:50 PM > Subject: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? > > I recently upgraded my freevo box to a new motherboard that uses the AMD > Radeon HD 6410D chipset. > > The only way I could get it to work was with the proprietary fglrx > driver (the open source driver requires KMS which is a sure-fire way of > crashing the kernel). But now I have the choice between 'tearing' of > video and a very low framerate (when I check the no tearing option in > the amdcccle tool). > > Does anyone know what is the right way of getting this video chipset to > deliver the promised performance? > > Paul > |
From: Paul S. <pa...@si...> - 2011-12-21 09:22:13
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Update: the 3400 runs at 2.7Ghz. Do not know why /proc/cpuinfo reports it as 800MHz. On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:43:15 +0100, Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> wrote: > Phil, > > I am using an AMD A4-3400 which is apparently only 800Mhz (but indeed > dual core). However CPU load is not the limiting factor (according to top). > > I will try VLC as you suggest. > > Paul > > On 12/21/2011 04:42 AM, Phil Raymond wrote: >> Sorry, I need to slow down my thought process when reading. Obviously, >> the amdcccle tool is the Catalyst Control. The only other idea i can >> suggest is to use the vlc plugin. I do have better results using vlc, >> instead of mplayer. I'm assuming you do have at least 2.2 ghz dual core >> processor, that's the only other thing I can think of that could effect >> frame rate. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Phil Raymond <tv...@ya...> >> To: "fre...@li..." >> <fre...@li...> >> Cc: ' >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? >> >> Paul, >> >> I use the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 and like you, install the fglrx >> drivers. When you downloaded the driver from AMD, you should have also >> gotten the Catalyst Control Center automatically. It is the ATI graphics >> card control software and one of the display options is for "tear free" >> to reduce tearing. One difference between your system and mine is I'm >> running Xubuntu 11.10, not Ubuntu (I can't stand Unity). I get to the >> Catalyst Control Center under "Settings Manager". I can't remember what >> the Ubuntu equivalent of that might be, but it should be somewhere. >> >> Phil >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> >> To: fre...@li... >> Cc: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:50 PM >> Subject: [Freevo-users] stop 'tearing' in AMD Radeon HD 6410D? >> >> I recently upgraded my freevo box to a new motherboard that uses the AMD >> Radeon HD 6410D chipset. >> >> The only way I could get it to work was with the proprietary fglrx >> driver (the open source driver requires KMS which is a sure-fire way of >> crashing the kernel). But now I have the choice between 'tearing' of >> video and a very low framerate (when I check the no tearing option in >> the amdcccle tool). >> >> Does anyone know what is the right way of getting this video chipset to >> deliver the promised performance? >> >> Paul >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Write once. Port to many. > Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create > new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the > Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev > _______________________________________________ > Freevo-users mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users |
From: Preston H. <pre...@gm...> - 2011-12-21 18:48:58
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> wrote: > Update: the 3400 runs at 2.7Ghz. Do not know why /proc/cpuinfo reports it > as 800MHz. > Not sure about the ATI card, I use a NVIDIA, As for /proc/cpuinfo, It will read the speed the CPU is currently running at, not the max speed. AMD chips are actually pretty good about scaling, so when idle they tend to slow down to reduce heat and save power. For example, I have a Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3.0 Ghz, dual core) in my main freevo box, but it is reading 1 Ghz for cpu speed right now. With cpufreq-set, you can adjust the cpu speed at will. For example, I run Hulu Desktop with Freevo (using a fxd command file). Since Hulu seems to take a lot of processing power and sometimes the cpu doesn't scale up fast enough, I now start hulu with this script: cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 3.0GHz cpufreq-set -c 1 -f 3.0GHz /usr/bin/huludesktop cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 1.0GHz cpufreq-set -c 1 -f 1.0GHz Basically, the first two commands set my cpu frequency for each core to their max (3.0 Ghz), then I run hulu. When it exits, I set the frequency back to the minimum 1 Ghz and let the standard governor take over. Try cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor to see what your current governor is, or cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors to see the available ones. I use userspace, which then lets me use powernowd (you have to install it separately). It seems to be decent. Anyway, you might try setting the governor to performance or just setting the cpufreq to maximum before trying a video and see if that helps your tearing problem. You probably want the cpu to idle lower when not in use, but it might at least give you an idea if your issue is your cpu not running at full speed. Preston |
From: Paul S. <pa...@si...> - 2012-01-15 13:18:27
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part of the answer seems to be to install cpufreqd. On ubuntu it is automatically configured to scale up the CPU frequency when mplayer or xine are run. On 21-12-11 19:48, Preston Hagar wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Paul Sijben <pa...@si...> wrote: >> Update: the 3400 runs at 2.7Ghz. Do not know why /proc/cpuinfo reports it >> as 800MHz. >> > Not sure about the ATI card, I use a NVIDIA, > > As for /proc/cpuinfo, > > It will read the speed the CPU is currently running at, not the max > speed. AMD chips are actually pretty good about scaling, so when idle > they tend to slow down to reduce heat and save power. For example, I > have a Athlon 64 X2 6000+ (3.0 Ghz, dual core) in my main freevo box, > but it is reading 1 Ghz for cpu speed right now. > > With cpufreq-set, you can adjust the cpu speed at will. For example, > I run Hulu Desktop with Freevo (using a fxd command file). Since Hulu > seems to take a lot of processing power and sometimes the cpu doesn't > scale up fast enough, I now start hulu with this script: > > > cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 3.0GHz > cpufreq-set -c 1 -f 3.0GHz > /usr/bin/huludesktop > cpufreq-set -c 0 -f 1.0GHz > cpufreq-set -c 1 -f 1.0GHz > > > Basically, the first two commands set my cpu frequency for each core > to their max (3.0 Ghz), then I run hulu. When it exits, I set the > frequency back to the minimum 1 Ghz and let the standard governor take > over. > > Try > > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor > > to see what your current governor is, or > > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors > > to see the available ones. > > I use userspace, which then lets me use powernowd (you have to install > it separately). It seems to be decent. > > Anyway, you might try setting the governor to performance or just > setting the cpufreq to maximum before trying a video and see if that > helps your tearing problem. You probably want the cpu to idle lower > when not in use, but it might at least give you an idea if your issue > is your cpu not running at full speed. > > Preston > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Write once. Port to many. > Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create > new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the > Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev > _______________________________________________ > Freevo-users mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-users -- Paul Sijben tel 0334557522 |