Re: [Freemint-discuss] Weird problem with MiNTnet

[Miro K. <mir...@gm...>]

Typo: Dec 2024. Oh and I tried also older FreeMiNT versions (1.16, 1.17,
1.18...)

On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 00:16, Miro Kropáček <mir...@gm...> wrote:

> Speaking of weird problems... today I have encountered something equally
> strange and without any clue what has caused it.
>
> Basically I tried to reinstall my system from scratch. So I download the
> bootable snapshot, add ping and set up some basic static IP. Pinging my PC
> doesn't work. Router ditto. Local IP ditto. 127.0.0.1 ditto. All I see is
> "PING .... 56 data bytes" and that's it, no response. I can interrupt it
> with CTRL+C any time.
>
> So I stared at it for a while and then I tried to boot the same CF card
> from Hatari on my PC. Didn't bother with anything else than ping 127.0.0.1
> and ... it worked. Swapped back to the Falcon ... didn't work.
>
> Reverted back to the snapshot, and just added 'ping' into /bin (even
> deleted the two xif drivers in $SYSDIR). Same result: Hatari OK, real
> machine not OK. Tried in both 030 and 060 mode.
>
> Booting with MP enabled, nothing out of ordinary spotted. Tried to copy a
> huge ZIP file from Hatari to CF card and unzip it on Falcon (to make sure
> that IDE reading is OK): all fine.
>
> Then I tried to download a snapshot from Dec 2014, which I vaguely
> remember using: same result. Then I deleted basically everything but
> mint.prg and inet4.xdd: same result.
>
> As a last resort, I tried to boot the same card and default snapshot on
> another Falcon and ... ping worked! So that leaves me perplexed... I could
> understand all sorts of reasons why the actual network interface doesn't
> work. But pinging 127.0.0.1 ??? The Falcon with non-working ping is even
> recapped, in perfect health otherwise.
>
> So I swapped the last thing -- the CF adapter which was holding the card
> (from the working Falcon), and even removed SuperVidel in the process (not
> active at that time, booting in 030 mode!) ... ping still stubbornly
> refuses to work.
>
> As an act of desperation, I even cleaned NVRAM on the falcon, as the
> working one has a dead NVRAM battery so it's booting into ST LOW. No help.
>
> I'm totally clueless. I guess I could try to remove the CT60e but
> that's... that's just terrible. I guess I'll try to force myself into
> debugging this further (i.e. to recompile 'ping' from Vincent's source
> code) as it smells like a nice issue to look at but still, I cannot think
> of any explanation other than "bad luck".
>
> On Sun, 18 May 2025 at 22:11, Jo Even Skarstein via Freemint-discuss <
> fre...@li...> wrote:
>
>> Ok, haven't had much time to spend on real hardware the last month, but
>> sat down Friday night
>> and tried to figure out what the problem was. I suspected either a
>> Linux/Windows update, or a
>> router update. Most likely the latter, as the problem started at the
>> exact same time on all my
>> computers.
>>
>> Turns out that it's a routing issue with my router, and probably my
>> MiNTnet configuration. When I
>> access other devices on my LAN from MiNTnet, all LAN traffic goes via the
>> router - which is set up
>> as the default route. For some unknown to me reason (I know very little
>> about network configuration)
>> this suddenly caused all my non-MiNTnet machines to not be able to
>> communicate with my MiNTnet
>> machines. Looks like packets where received by MiNTnet, but the response
>> never reached the other
>> machine. Except if that machine runs MiNTnet as well.
>>
>> Adding a route specifically to my LAN solved the issue. However, the
>> dhclient script does not do this
>> so I can't use DHCP anymore. Or I probably could if I modified the
>> dhclient script, but that involves
>> another thing I don't know much and don't like - shell scripts.
>>
>> Jo Even
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 19:02:57 +0000, Jo Even Skarstein via
>> Freemint-discuss <fre...@li...> wrote:
>>
>> >> I've ran into a weird problem with MiNTnet. Suddenly none of my Ataris
>> running MiNTnet are available to other devices on my LAN, except the
>> router. Networking between my Ataris works normally, and I can ping my
>> other devices (PC's running Linux or Windows) from my Ataris but not vice
>> versa. I can't access any servers on my PC's from my Ataris, but any
>> external servers (ftp, http, mail...) works fine. This happened suddenly
>> and at the same time for all my Ataris, so the problem is not caused by any
>> changes on the Atari side.
>> >>
>> >> What's strange is that if I boot TOS and run UIPtool instead of
>> MiNT/MiNTnet everything works fine. The Atari is assigned the same IP as
>> under MiNTnet (using DHCP in both cases), but with UIPtool running I can
>> access the Atari from any device on my LAN.
>> >>
>> >> Any idea on what's going on?
>> >>
>> >> Jo Even
>> >>
>> >>
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