From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-04-09 00:31:39
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Hello, I think I tried asking this a few months ago, but seem to be having issues sending stuff to the mailing list. Is there a template for one of the platform implementations or a list of "functions that must be implemented" to add a new platform, such as Android (which I know is being worked on)? I ask because I would like to add BlackBerry 10 support, but can't seem to figure out where I should be starting to do so. Thanks, Vinnie |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-04-09 09:59:15
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Hi Vinnie, Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately, we don't have such a list. Maybe best is to look at the Android code in the android subfolder which is less extensive in functionality for now than the other platforms. A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be shared.. Best, Dee On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I think I tried asking this a few months ago, but seem to be having issues > sending stuff to the mailing list. > > > > Is there a template for one of the platform implementations or a list of > “functions that must be implemented” to add a new platform, such as Android > (which I know is being worked on)? > > > > I ask because I would like to add BlackBerry 10 support, but can’t seem to > figure out where I should be starting to do so. > > > > Thanks, > > Vinnie > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > |
From: John T. <nu...@me...> - 2013-04-09 12:04:29
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On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation > and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on > android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > shared.. To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not because of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. -- John Tsiombikas http://nuclear.mutantstargoat.com/ |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-04-09 12:51:34
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Hi, On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas <nu...@me...> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be >> shared.. > > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not because > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions for andriod for as far as i saw. Best, Dee |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-04-14 06:15:44
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Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I know I would need to do work there. I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important right now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so that if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they need to implement. BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it will be easier to fork and add the functionality. Vinnie> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas <nu...@me...> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation > >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on > >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > >> shared.. > > > > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not because > > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. > > Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display > server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the > Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions > for andriod for as far as i saw. > > Best, > Dee > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-04-22 06:21:01
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Hi Vinnie, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it will be > easier to fork and add the functionality. Its up at https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT. Best, Dee |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-04-22 06:29:31
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Forked Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:dc...@gm...] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:21 AM To: FreeGLUT developers list Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Hi Vinnie, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it > will be easier to fork and add the functionality. Its up at https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT. Best, Dee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter _______________________________________________ Freeglut-developer mailing list Fre...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-04-22 08:35:05
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Cool! Let us know if you have any questions! Best, Dee On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > Forked > > Vinnie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:dc...@gm...] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:21 AM > To: FreeGLUT developers list > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> > wrote: >> BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the >> project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it >> will be easier to fork and add the functionality. > > Its up at https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT. > > Best, > Dee > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics > on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a > phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy > data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Fay, J. F Dr C. U. A. AFLCMC/X. <joh...@eg...> - 2013-04-22 14:21:09
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Knifed and spooned, too? John F. Fay Technical Fellow, Modeling and Simulation Jacobs TEAS Team 1030 Titan Ct., Fort Walton Beach, FL 32547 850-883-3496 -----Original Message----- From: Vinnie Simonetti [mailto:rcm...@ho...] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:29 AM To: 'FreeGLUT developers list' Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Forked Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:dc...@gm...] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:21 AM To: FreeGLUT developers list Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Hi Vinnie, On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it > will be easier to fork and add the functionality. Its up at https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT. Best, Dee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter _______________________________________________ Freeglut-developer mailing list Fre...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter _______________________________________________ Freeglut-developer mailing list Fre...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-04-22 14:26:22
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Haha! This is more of the "a fork in the road" kind of thing ;) On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Fay, John F Dr CTR USAF AFMC AFLCMC/XZWG <joh...@eg...> wrote: > Knifed and spooned, too? > > John F. Fay > Technical Fellow, Modeling and Simulation > Jacobs TEAS Team > 1030 Titan Ct., Fort Walton Beach, FL 32547 > 850-883-3496 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vinnie Simonetti [mailto:rcm...@ho...] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:29 AM > To: 'FreeGLUT developers list' > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Forked > > Vinnie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diederick C. Niehorster [mailto:dc...@gm...] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:21 AM > To: FreeGLUT developers list > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> > wrote: >> BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the >> project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it >> will be easier to fork and add the functionality. > > Its up at https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT. > > Best, > Dee > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics > on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a > phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy > data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics > on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a > phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy > data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-06 03:30:31
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Hello everybody I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring occurred with the now included Android support. TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but have hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake file so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that I didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked first. On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that don't have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it done, though I know it crashes right now. Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the link a little higher up in the message. If you have any comments or questions, let me know. I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if you have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. I otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. Vinnie From: rcm...@ho... To: fre...@li... Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I know I would need to do work there. I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important right now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so that if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they need to implement. BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it will be easier to fork and add the functionality. Vinnie > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas <nu...@me...> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation > >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on > >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > >> shared.. > > > > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not because > > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. > > Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display > server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the > Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions > for andriod for as far as i saw. > > Best, > Dee > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-09-06 04:14:59
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Hi Vinnie, It is great to hear you are making such progress. I am a little busy on my end (thesis deadline in one month from now!), so it will take a while before I can have a good look of what you did. Thanks for letting us know and keep it up! All the best, Dee On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > Hello everybody > > I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring > occurred with the now included Android support. > > TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but have > hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be > done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. > > Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry > > I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be > reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake file > so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both > platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so > there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that I > didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked first. > > On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that don't > have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it done, > though I know it crashes right now. > > Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the link a > little higher up in the message. > > If you have any comments or questions, let me know. > I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if you > have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. I > otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. > > Vinnie > > ________________________________ > From: rcm...@ho... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 > > > Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I know > I would need to do work there. > > I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important right > now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so that > if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they need > to implement. > > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it will be > easier to fork and add the functionality. > > Vinnie >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 >> From: dc...@gm... >> To: fre...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform >> >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas <nu...@me...> >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: >> >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation >> >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on >> >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be >> >> shared.. >> > >> > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not because >> > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. >> >> Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display >> server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the >> Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions >> for andriod for as far as i saw. >> >> Best, >> Dee >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use >> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! >> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter >> _______________________________________________ >> Freeglut-developer mailing list >> Fre...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041391&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-07 00:06:26
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Thanks Diederick, I made some headway with testing and realized I get an error due to the default bit depth chosen in fg_window_egl.c. I noticed that you not only changed those defaults, but you made them accessible to be changed by the developer (https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/commit/58b63620725f186ee6c5821be575fab85e1b6863). I assume you're going to commit that at some point? I temporarily changed them so I can test, but don't want to reimplement that if you already have it (and it seems you implemented it for Windows and X11 too, which I would not have gotten). Vinnie > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:14:52 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > It is great to hear you are making such progress. I am a little busy > on my end (thesis deadline in one month from now!), so it will take a > while before I can have a good look of what you did. > > Thanks for letting us know and keep it up! > > All the best, > Dee > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Vinnie Simonetti > <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > > Hello everybody > > > > I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring > > occurred with the now included Android support. > > > > TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but have > > hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be > > done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. > > > > Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry > > > > I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be > > reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake file > > so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both > > platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so > > there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that I > > didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked first. > > > > On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that don't > > have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it done, > > though I know it crashes right now. > > > > Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the link a > > little higher up in the message. > > > > If you have any comments or questions, let me know. > > I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if you > > have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. I > > otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. > > > > Vinnie > > > > ________________________________ > > From: rcm...@ho... > > To: fre...@li... > > Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 > > > > > > Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I know > > I would need to do work there. > > > > I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important right > > now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so that > > if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they need > > to implement. > > > > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it will be > > easier to fork and add the functionality. > > > > Vinnie > >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 > >> From: dc...@gm... > >> To: fre...@li... > >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas <nu...@me...> > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster wrote: > >> >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context creation > >> >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? on > >> >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > >> >> shared.. > >> > > >> > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not because > >> > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. > >> > >> Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display > >> server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the > >> Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions > >> for andriod for as far as i saw. > >> > >> Best, > >> Dee > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building > >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use > >> our toolset for easy data analysis & visualization. Get a free account! > >> http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Freeglut-developer mailing list > >> Fre...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041391&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Freeglut-developer mailing list > > Fre...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! > Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies > and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step > tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041391&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-09-07 02:35:35
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Hi Vinnie, So the default (Freeglut's default) requested bit depth leads to a crash? Thats dangerous, please document somewhere what the default fro blackberry should be. Yes, I have some work done there to implement other requests, but haven't gone further. Whatever i request on my machine, i always get the default instead, it seems my request is silently ignored. At least, that's what i remember was the problem why i didn't continue working on it at that moment. At some point, not too much in the future, it should be finished though indeed, and be made available for all platforms. Best, Dee On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > Thanks Diederick, > > I made some headway with testing and realized I get an error due to the > default bit depth chosen in fg_window_egl.c. > > I noticed that you not only changed those defaults, but you made them > accessible to be changed by the developer > (https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/commit/58b63620725f186ee6c5821be575fab85e1b6863). > I assume you're going to commit that at some point? I temporarily changed > them so I can test, but don't want to reimplement that if you already have > it (and it seems you implemented it for Windows and X11 too, which I would > not have gotten). > > Vinnie > > >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:14:52 +0800 > >> From: dc...@gm... >> To: fre...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform >> >> Hi Vinnie, >> >> It is great to hear you are making such progress. I am a little busy >> on my end (thesis deadline in one month from now!), so it will take a >> while before I can have a good look of what you did. >> >> Thanks for letting us know and keep it up! >> >> All the best, >> Dee >> >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Vinnie Simonetti >> <rcm...@ho...> wrote: >> > Hello everybody >> > >> > I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring >> > occurred with the now included Android support. >> > >> > TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but >> > have >> > hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be >> > done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. >> > >> > Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry >> > >> > I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be >> > reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake >> > file >> > so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both >> > platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so >> > there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that >> > I >> > didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked >> > first. >> > >> > On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that >> > don't >> > have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it >> > done, >> > though I know it crashes right now. >> > >> > Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the >> > link a >> > little higher up in the message. >> > >> > If you have any comments or questions, let me know. >> > I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if >> > you >> > have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. >> > I >> > otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. >> > >> > Vinnie >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: rcm...@ho... >> > To: fre...@li... >> > Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform >> > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 >> > >> > >> > Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I >> > know >> > I would need to do work there. >> > >> > I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important >> > right >> > now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so >> > that >> > if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they >> > need >> > to implement. >> > >> > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the >> > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it >> > will be >> > easier to fork and add the functionality. >> > >> > Vinnie >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 >> >> From: dc...@gm... >> >> To: fre...@li... >> >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas >> >> <nu...@me...> >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context >> >> >> creation >> >> >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? >> >> >> on >> >> >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be >> >> >> shared.. >> >> > >> >> > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not >> >> > because >> >> > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. >> >> >> >> Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display >> >> server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the >> >> Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions >> >> for andriod for as far as i saw. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Dee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced >> >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for >> >> building >> >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. 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From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-07 02:46:25
|
Hey Dee, I'm not sure if it's the bit-depth right now. All I know is eglCreateWindowSurface fails with EGL_BAD_MATCH. I will investigate more to see if this is BlackBerry's screen (which I currently set to RGBA8888) or EGL. Vinnie > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:35:25 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > So the default (Freeglut's default) requested bit depth leads to a > crash? Thats dangerous, please document somewhere what the default fro > blackberry should be. > > Yes, I have some work done there to implement other requests, but > haven't gone further. Whatever i request on my machine, i always get > the default instead, it seems my request is silently ignored. At > least, that's what i remember was the problem why i didn't continue > working on it at that moment. At some point, not too much in the > future, it should be finished though indeed, and be made available for > all platforms. > > Best, > Dee > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > > Thanks Diederick, > > > > I made some headway with testing and realized I get an error due to the > > default bit depth chosen in fg_window_egl.c. > > > > I noticed that you not only changed those defaults, but you made them > > accessible to be changed by the developer > > (https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/commit/58b63620725f186ee6c5821be575fab85e1b6863). > > I assume you're going to commit that at some point? I temporarily changed > > them so I can test, but don't want to reimplement that if you already have > > it (and it seems you implemented it for Windows and X11 too, which I would > > not have gotten). > > > > Vinnie > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:14:52 +0800 > > > >> From: dc...@gm... > >> To: fre...@li... > >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > >> Hi Vinnie, > >> > >> It is great to hear you are making such progress. I am a little busy > >> on my end (thesis deadline in one month from now!), so it will take a > >> while before I can have a good look of what you did. > >> > >> Thanks for letting us know and keep it up! > >> > >> All the best, > >> Dee > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Vinnie Simonetti > >> <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > >> > Hello everybody > >> > > >> > I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring > >> > occurred with the now included Android support. > >> > > >> > TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but > >> > have > >> > hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be > >> > done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. > >> > > >> > Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry > >> > > >> > I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be > >> > reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake > >> > file > >> > so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both > >> > platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so > >> > there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that > >> > I > >> > didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked > >> > first. > >> > > >> > On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that > >> > don't > >> > have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it > >> > done, > >> > though I know it crashes right now. > >> > > >> > Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the > >> > link a > >> > little higher up in the message. > >> > > >> > If you have any comments or questions, let me know. > >> > I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if > >> > you > >> > have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. > >> > I > >> > otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. > >> > > >> > Vinnie > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: rcm...@ho... > >> > To: fre...@li... > >> > Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 > >> > > >> > > >> > Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I > >> > know > >> > I would need to do work there. > >> > > >> > I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important > >> > right > >> > now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so > >> > that > >> > if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they > >> > need > >> > to implement. > >> > > >> > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > >> > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it > >> > will be > >> > easier to fork and add the functionality. > >> > > >> > Vinnie > >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 > >> >> From: dc...@gm... > >> >> To: fre...@li... > >> >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas > >> >> <nu...@me...> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context > >> >> >> creation > >> >> >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > >> >> >> shared.. > >> >> > > >> >> > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not > >> >> > because > >> >> > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. > >> >> > >> >> Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display > >> >> server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the > >> >> Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions > >> >> for andriod for as far as i saw. > >> >> > >> >> Best, > >> >> Dee > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >> >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for > >> >> building > >> >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. 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From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-08 02:27:12
|
Dee, Oddly, the issue seems to be related to the RGB portion. Alpha, depth, and stencil can be anything (within reasonable range) without causing issues. If RGB is set to anything except RGB888 or RGB565, then eglCreateWindowSurface fails with EGL_BAD_MATCH. I've asked someone who works on the graphics team if there are any docs pointing out what is supported and what isn't. Vinnie From: rcm...@ho... To: fre...@li... Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:46:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Hey Dee, I'm not sure if it's the bit-depth right now. All I know is eglCreateWindowSurface fails with EGL_BAD_MATCH. I will investigate more to see if this is BlackBerry's screen (which I currently set to RGBA8888) or EGL. Vinnie > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:35:25 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > So the default (Freeglut's default) requested bit depth leads to a > crash? Thats dangerous, please document somewhere what the default fro > blackberry should be. > > Yes, I have some work done there to implement other requests, but > haven't gone further. Whatever i request on my machine, i always get > the default instead, it seems my request is silently ignored. At > least, that's what i remember was the problem why i didn't continue > working on it at that moment. At some point, not too much in the > future, it should be finished though indeed, and be made available for > all platforms. > > Best, > Dee > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > > Thanks Diederick, > > > > I made some headway with testing and realized I get an error due to the > > default bit depth chosen in fg_window_egl.c. > > > > I noticed that you not only changed those defaults, but you made them > > accessible to be changed by the developer > > (https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/commit/58b63620725f186ee6c5821be575fab85e1b6863). > > I assume you're going to commit that at some point? I temporarily changed > > them so I can test, but don't want to reimplement that if you already have > > it (and it seems you implemented it for Windows and X11 too, which I would > > not have gotten). > > > > Vinnie > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:14:52 +0800 > > > >> From: dc...@gm... > >> To: fre...@li... > >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > >> Hi Vinnie, > >> > >> It is great to hear you are making such progress. I am a little busy > >> on my end (thesis deadline in one month from now!), so it will take a > >> while before I can have a good look of what you did. > >> > >> Thanks for letting us know and keep it up! > >> > >> All the best, > >> Dee > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Vinnie Simonetti > >> <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > >> > Hello everybody > >> > > >> > I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring > >> > occurred with the now included Android support. > >> > > >> > TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but > >> > have > >> > hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be > >> > done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. > >> > > >> > Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry > >> > > >> > I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be > >> > reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake > >> > file > >> > so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both > >> > platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so > >> > there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that > >> > I > >> > didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked > >> > first. > >> > > >> > On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that > >> > don't > >> > have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it > >> > done, > >> > though I know it crashes right now. > >> > > >> > Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the > >> > link a > >> > little higher up in the message. > >> > > >> > If you have any comments or questions, let me know. > >> > I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if > >> > you > >> > have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. > >> > I > >> > otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. > >> > > >> > Vinnie > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: rcm...@ho... > >> > To: fre...@li... > >> > Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 > >> > > >> > > >> > Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I > >> > know > >> > I would need to do work there. > >> > > >> > I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important > >> > right > >> > now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so > >> > that > >> > if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they > >> > need > >> > to implement. > >> > > >> > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > >> > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it > >> > will be > >> > easier to fork and add the functionality. > >> > > >> > Vinnie > >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 > >> >> From: dc...@gm... > >> >> To: fre...@li... > >> >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas > >> >> <nu...@me...> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context > >> >> >> creation > >> >> >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > >> >> >> shared.. > >> >> > > >> >> > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not > >> >> > because > >> >> > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. > >> >> > >> >> Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display > >> >> server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the > >> >> Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions > >> >> for andriod for as far as i saw. > >> >> > >> >> Best, > >> >> Dee > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >> >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for > >> >> building > >> >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. 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From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-12 14:46:21
|
Hello, Any opinions on the following points (related to mobile support): - Mobile devices often have a virtual keyboard that acts as an overlay on the screen. Should there be an additional callback to indicate that the keyboard has opened and closed (and the height it's at)? If not then I would assume resize should be called? - Mobile devices can change orientation. Should glut lock rotation to prevent the app from rotating once glutInit is called? If not, then should there be a callback indicating what rotation the device is along with calling resize? - I don't know if anyone's looked at what I've written for BlackBerry support, but I found that I didn't have to implement every function as Sylvain's Android code works well on BlackBerry as well. As such, instead of copying every file and changing the filename to _blackberry, I just changed the CMake file to use the Android version: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/compare/blackberry#L1R121. I don't know if that is considered a bad practice or if it's fine. I know I've been told by at least one person that something akin to a stub should be made that can be used by BlackBerry and Android so it looks a little cleaner. I also use the input devices code from x11, mainly just because it compiles without issue on BlackBerry. So any opinions on those topics would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, FreeGLUT works on BlackBerry right now. I'm just trying to clean up the code a little more and hopefully get answers on the above questions. Vinnie From: rcm...@ho... To: fre...@li... Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 22:27:03 -0400 Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Dee, Oddly, the issue seems to be related to the RGB portion. Alpha, depth, and stencil can be anything (within reasonable range) without causing issues. If RGB is set to anything except RGB888 or RGB565, then eglCreateWindowSurface fails with EGL_BAD_MATCH. I've asked someone who works on the graphics team if there are any docs pointing out what is supported and what isn't. Vinnie From: rcm...@ho... To: fre...@li... Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 22:46:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform Hey Dee, I'm not sure if it's the bit-depth right now. All I know is eglCreateWindowSurface fails with EGL_BAD_MATCH. I will investigate more to see if this is BlackBerry's screen (which I currently set to RGBA8888) or EGL. Vinnie > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:35:25 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > So the default (Freeglut's default) requested bit depth leads to a > crash? Thats dangerous, please document somewhere what the default fro > blackberry should be. > > Yes, I have some work done there to implement other requests, but > haven't gone further. Whatever i request on my machine, i always get > the default instead, it seems my request is silently ignored. At > least, that's what i remember was the problem why i didn't continue > working on it at that moment. At some point, not too much in the > future, it should be finished though indeed, and be made available for > all platforms. > > Best, > Dee > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > > Thanks Diederick, > > > > I made some headway with testing and realized I get an error due to the > > default bit depth chosen in fg_window_egl.c. > > > > I noticed that you not only changed those defaults, but you made them > > accessible to be changed by the developer > > (https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/commit/58b63620725f186ee6c5821be575fab85e1b6863). > > I assume you're going to commit that at some point? I temporarily changed > > them so I can test, but don't want to reimplement that if you already have > > it (and it seems you implemented it for Windows and X11 too, which I would > > not have gotten). > > > > Vinnie > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:14:52 +0800 > > > >> From: dc...@gm... > >> To: fre...@li... > >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > >> Hi Vinnie, > >> > >> It is great to hear you are making such progress. I am a little busy > >> on my end (thesis deadline in one month from now!), so it will take a > >> while before I can have a good look of what you did. > >> > >> Thanks for letting us know and keep it up! > >> > >> All the best, > >> Dee > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Vinnie Simonetti > >> <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > >> > Hello everybody > >> > > >> > I've been out of the loop for a bit, but I see a large restructuring > >> > occurred with the now included Android support. > >> > > >> > TL:DR-I added BlackBerry 10 support. I'm in the process of testing, but > >> > have > >> > hit some snags on my end (not with Freeglut) so I can't say when I'll be > >> > done. Take a look at the repo on Github and let me know your opinions. > >> > > >> > Code link: https://github.com/rcmaniac25/FreeGLUT/tree/blackberry > >> > > >> > I took a look at the Android code and realized a bunch of code could be > >> > reused for BlackBerry without much if any changes. I changed the CMake > >> > file > >> > so that files that work on both Android and BlackBerry were used on both > >> > platforms. Then I basically "ported" the Android code to BlackBerry, so > >> > there are some things I know can be done (such as multiple windows) that > >> > I > >> > didn't implement just yet. I wanted to make sure everything worked > >> > first. > >> > > >> > On that note, I've encountered issues on my end with debugging that > >> > don't > >> > have to do with Freeglut. As such, I can't say when I might have it > >> > done, > >> > though I know it crashes right now. > >> > > >> > Until that point, if anyone is willing to look at the code, I put the > >> > link a > >> > little higher up in the message. > >> > > >> > If you have any comments or questions, let me know. > >> > I don't know if I broke any cardinal rules that Freeglut follows, but if > >> > you > >> > have any tips on what can/should/shouldn't be implemented, let me know. > >> > I > >> > otherwise only used the other platforms as a basis. > >> > > >> > Vinnie > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: rcm...@ho... > >> > To: fre...@li... > >> > Subject: RE: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:15:36 -0400 > >> > > >> > > >> > Sorry for the delay. BB10 has it's own proprietary display system, so I > >> > know > >> > I would need to do work there. > >> > > >> > I won't be able to work on this for a bit, but it's not too important > >> > right > >> > now. As I go I'll make a note of each function I needed to implement so > >> > that > >> > if other platforms are added later on, they can just look up what they > >> > need > >> > to implement. > >> > > >> > BTW, based on the email chain I've seen, I will probably wait for the > >> > project to be moved to Github (If I read the emails correctly) as it > >> > will be > >> > easier to fork and add the functionality. > >> > > >> > Vinnie > >> >> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 20:51:25 +0800 > >> >> From: dc...@gm... > >> >> To: fre...@li... > >> >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 8:04 PM, John Tsiombikas > >> >> <nu...@me...> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 05:59:08PM +0800, Diederick C. Niehorster > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> A very basic start would be stuff such as window and context > >> >> >> creation > >> >> >> and basic cursor interaction. What display server is BB10 based on? > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> android at least, a lot of code with the X11 platform could be > >> >> >> shared.. > >> >> > > >> >> > To clarify: that is only because they are both UNIX systems, not > >> >> > because > >> >> > of the display system. Android doesn't have anything to do with X11. > >> >> > >> >> Oops sorry, thanks for the catch. We didn't separate out display > >> >> server and OS/platform, so i was very imprecise here. Indeed, all the > >> >> Xgl.. and X.. functions are replaced with egl.. and other functions > >> >> for andriod for as far as i saw. > >> >> > >> >> Best, > >> >> Dee > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced > >> >> analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for > >> >> building > >> >> apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. 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From: Nigel S. <nig...@gm...> - 2013-09-12 15:29:43
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Vinnie, Aside from the question of any new callbacks or state queries, I think FreeGLUT ought to resize in response to virtual keyboard and orientation changes. I don't think a FreeGLUT app ought to need special support for either of those situations to behave reasonably. - Nigel |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-12 15:38:52
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Hi Nigel, That works. You brought up a good point that I didn't think about: could something like rotation and/or keyboard be queryable from glutGet? If so, then would it be worthwhile to add a glutDeviceGet value for if a virtual keyboard exists? Vinnie > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:29:35 -0500 > From: nig...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Vinnie, > > Aside from the question of any new callbacks or state queries, I think > FreeGLUT ought to resize in response to virtual keyboard and > orientation changes. I don't think a FreeGLUT app ought to need > special support for either of those situations to behave reasonably. > > - Nigel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT > 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT > 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Nigel S. <nig...@gm...> - 2013-09-12 15:43:57
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> Hi Nigel, > That works. Does the application need to know about device orientation, or does the platform typically take care of that? Just curious. - Nigel |
From: Florian E. <fl...@bu...> - 2013-09-12 16:39:01
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On 12.09.2013 17:43, Nigel Stewart wrote: > Does the application need to know about device orientation, or does the platform > typically take care of that? Just curious. On Android, the application has to take care (which makes sense IMHO, as the aspect ratio will change significantly). BR, Florian -- SENT FROM MY DEC VT50 TERMINAL |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-12 15:54:51
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I don't know about Android or other mobile platforms, but BlackBerry will usually produce an event about device orientation and the framework/app adjusts the screen accordingly. For FreeGLUT, resize would be the only callback needed but getting what the orientation is might be useful anyway. I tend to just like to provide as much info as possible. Vinnie > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:43:50 -0500 > From: nig...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > > Hi Nigel, > > That works. > > Does the application need to know about device orientation, or does the platform > typically take care of that? Just curious. > > - Nigel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT > 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT > 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-18 06:10:23
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Hey Dee and company, As I did everything on Github, I issued a pull request for adding BlackBerry support: https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/pull/1 Let me know how it looks. Thanks, Vinnie From: Vinnie Simonetti [mailto:rcm...@ho...] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:55 AM To: FreeGLUT developers list Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform I don't know about Android or other mobile platforms, but BlackBerry will usually produce an event about device orientation and the framework/app adjusts the screen accordingly. For FreeGLUT, resize would be the only callback needed but getting what the orientation is might be useful anyway. I tend to just like to provide as much info as possible. Vinnie > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:43:50 -0500 > From: nig...@gm... <mailto:nig...@gm...> > To: fre...@li... <mailto:fre...@li...> > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > > Hi Nigel, > > That works. > > Does the application need to know about device orientation, or does the platform > typically take care of that? Just curious. > > - Nigel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT > 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT > 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111 <http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > &iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... <mailto:Fre...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |
From: Diederick C. N. <dc...@gm...> - 2013-09-19 08:48:04
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Hi Vinnie, Thanks! Hope to get back to it in a few weeks, sorry for the delay... Best, Dee On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Vinnie Simonetti <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > Hey Dee and company, > > > > As I did everything on Github, I issued a pull request for adding BlackBerry > support: https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/pull/1 > > > > Let me know how it looks. > > > > Thanks, > > Vinnie > > > > From: Vinnie Simonetti [mailto:rcm...@ho...] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:55 AM > To: FreeGLUT developers list > > > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > > > I don't know about Android or other mobile platforms, but BlackBerry will > usually produce an event about device orientation and the framework/app > adjusts the screen accordingly. For FreeGLUT, resize would be the only > callback needed but getting what the orientation is might be useful anyway. > I tend to just like to provide as much info as possible. > > Vinnie > > > >> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:43:50 -0500 >> From: nig...@gm... >> To: fre...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform >> >> > Hi Nigel, >> > That works. >> >> Does the application need to know about device orientation, or does the >> platform >> typically take care of that? Just curious. >> >> - Nigel >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: >> 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT >> 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT >> 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Freeglut-developer mailing list >> Fre...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! > 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint > 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack > includes > Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > |
From: Vinnie S. <rcm...@ho...> - 2013-09-19 14:17:53
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Hey Dee, That's fine, I know you have some important work due in a few weeks. Vinnie > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:47:54 +0800 > From: dc...@gm... > To: fre...@li... > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > Hi Vinnie, > > Thanks! Hope to get back to it in a few weeks, sorry for the delay... > > Best, > Dee > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Vinnie Simonetti > <rcm...@ho...> wrote: > > Hey Dee and company, > > > > > > > > As I did everything on Github, I issued a pull request for adding BlackBerry > > support: https://github.com/dcnieho/FreeGLUT/pull/1 > > > > > > > > Let me know how it looks. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Vinnie > > > > > > > > From: Vinnie Simonetti [mailto:rcm...@ho...] > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:55 AM > > To: FreeGLUT developers list > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > > > > > > > > I don't know about Android or other mobile platforms, but BlackBerry will > > usually produce an event about device orientation and the framework/app > > adjusts the screen accordingly. For FreeGLUT, resize would be the only > > callback needed but getting what the orientation is might be useful anyway. > > I tend to just like to provide as much info as possible. > > > > Vinnie > > > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:43:50 -0500 > >> From: nig...@gm... > >> To: fre...@li... > >> Subject: Re: [Freeglut-developer] Adding support for another platform > >> > >> > Hi Nigel, > >> > That works. > >> > >> Does the application need to know about device orientation, or does the > >> platform > >> typically take care of that? Just curious. > >> > >> - Nigel > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: > >> 1. Consolidate legacy IT systems to a single system of record for IT > >> 2. Standardize and globalize service processes across IT > >> 3. Implement zero-touch automation to replace manual, redundant tasks > >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=51271111&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Freeglut-developer mailing list > >> Fre...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! > > 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint > > 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack > > includes > > Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > Freeglut-developer mailing list > > Fre...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > LIMITED TIME SALE - Full Year of Microsoft Training For Just $49.99! > 1,500+ hours of tutorials including VisualStudio 2012, Windows 8, SharePoint > 2013, SQL 2012, MVC 4, more. BEST VALUE: New Multi-Library Power Pack includes > Mobile, Cloud, Java, and UX Design. Lowest price ever! Ends 9/20/13. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Freeglut-developer mailing list > Fre...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freeglut-developer |