Re: [Fofredux-devel] A few changes

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

There are several options which I've used:
1) Simple CSS which scales well - FoFRedux looks great on the Nokia
770, and passable on cellphones web browsers (non-WAP)
2) Device-specific CSS - not all devices properly know they're small,
so the handheld css isn't always used
3) JS Detect and CSS Switch
4) Seperate portal entry - this may be the 'best' option as the pages
are dynamically created, so maintaining a simplified output, perhaps
even the current style, for portable devices may the choice to use
(e.g. http://fofredux/mobile)


On 3/21/06, Broken Kode <kha...@gm...> wrote:
> Regarding how it scales down, that's a pretty interesting one, the short
> answer is not really. I've only ever seen my site on a Blackberry once
> and the css wasn't working but the markup was pretty good and it was
> completely readable. The question is do you make a css file specifically
> for mobile devices? If so what's the 'standard' resolution you can play
> around with? If anyone's got some links etc I'll do my homework and come
> back with a battle plan, just need a nudge in the right direction :).
>
> Andrew Turner wrote:
>
> >Correct, MooFX is written with Prototype, so gives you that nice $F
> >grabbing. I believe it's pared down. So MooFX is 3kb vs. the Prototype
> >(30k) plus Scriptaculous, et al.
> >
> >http://moofx.mad4milk.net/
> >
> >Quick Guide to Prototype:
> >http://www.particletree.com/features/quick-guide-to-prototype/
> >
> >Well, I guess this brings up the question - Khaled, any thoughts on
> >how your interface scales to mobile devices?
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >On 3/21/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The secret to prototype is simply $F.  It makes it so simple to grab a =
DOM
> >>object and begin to play with it.  I've found prototype itself to be
> >>relatively lightweight, since when you are doing ajax stuff, you really=
 do
> >>need the whole mix of stuff it provides.  If i remember correctly, MooF=
X is
> >>built on prototype, and is more for javascript effects...similar to wha=
t you
> >>would find from yahoo!, rico, etc.  prototype simply provides the frame=
work
> >>to make the rest possible.
> >>In short, if we want the functionality, but not the fancy interface
> >>effects...you just need prototype.  I'm sure theres alternatives...but
> >>everything i've done at work and home has started there, so that's the
> >>extent of my experience.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 3/21/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Good point about the keyboard implementation and other benefits. We
> >>>should do a quick review/analysis of the available libraries before
> >>>choosing one.
> >>>
> >>>Andrew
> >>>
> >>>On 3/21/06, Kevin < ke...@dr...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Definitely, I think Ajax is great thing for smooth user-interface an=
d
> >>>>>will definitely be put into FoFRedux 0.4. I just want to make sure w=
e
> >>>>>keep our design heads about us when putting it in. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I've used prototype a bunch and it's very nice. However, it can be
> >>>>>very heavyweight. There is MooFX which is supposed to be a much
> >>>>>lighter-weight, but fairly full-featured Ajax library. Worst case, w=
e
> >>>>>just write the straight ajax, which is pretty simple and I've done
> >>>>>that before as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>I haven't used Prototype yet, but have read the docs and quite a few
> >>>>reviews.  It's benefits are not limited to Ajax.  I think the event
> >>>>handling and OO helper objects/functions look very useful also.   The
> >>>>event handling specifically, looks like it will save alot of effort
> >>>>finishing up the keyboard shortcut work.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Kevin
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