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Re: [Fofredux-devel] Version 0.9
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From: khaled A. A. <bro...@gm...> - 2006-02-25 15:42:13
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Okay I'm going to try and address everything here, so bear with me :).
On 2/25/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) <nil...@us...> wrote=
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> Wow, things move fast when I don't read my email for about 10 hours.
> :) I'm liking how it 's all shaking down to a very nice look. A couple
> of points, questions:
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> * Left-side "mark all as read"
> * I believe Miles pointed out that this may be confusing. Does this
> apply to all the feed items, or just to the 'flagged' items.
I can see how it might seem confusing at first, but once you've done it onc=
e
you'll understand what the deal is. That link marks EVERYTHING as read in
the sidebar alone. Thinking about this, we'd need another link to mark
everything as unread as well. So I'll add that in there. It doesn't relate
to items/categories that are flagged but rather to all items in there.
* Item view
> * I think the feed icon (favicon or whatever it is) should be where
> the flag currently is and move the flag to the left (or right) of the
> "mark as read"
I don't understand the reason for this? Are we talking about the top bar
here? Where it says feeds, category, tags, flags? If that's the case I thin=
k
feeds should be the default view here. The flagged items are those items
that you have saved because there is something important in them.
* "< Next | Previous >" should probably be "< Previous | Next >"
> ala Western page-turning, and the preference that increase in
> time/future goes to the right and the past is to the left
Not a problem will amend.
* Can probably drop the ", paged" on "View all items, paged" as
> views should always be paged or they have a really good tendency to
> crash the browser when 1800 feeds and images are being loaded
Good point although I would like to have the option to just view the titles
alone, without the text underneath them. Just another option for viewing.
* I'm not sure if the current demo view is "all items", "new items"
> or "today's items", perhaps some highlighting of the current view in
> the menu item? Then there may also be a view that will dynamically
> show up to the left that will be like "Custom View" or "Search View"
> or something when someone does a special view?
Good point. I've got a very simple solution for that, and hopefully it'll b=
e
crystal clear.
Maybe to expand the idea: On the right-hand side is always talking
> about "this feed or feeds", so if I say view new, view today's that is
> only applying to the current set of feeds that I have selected in the
> right-hand side. So on the right side as I flag feeds they will show
> up in my right-hand side view or there will be a menu button for "view
> all feeds". New idea, let me know if it doesn't make sense or isn't
> clear
Not actually sure what you mean here so if you could elborate that would be
great :).
* Tags: I think having two "Tags:" is unnecessary and also doesn't
> allow for removing tags. What I suggest would be just the single
> "Tags: wordpress, internet, things | Edit | " - so the user can press
> the "Edit" or "Edit tags" button (or double-click the word Tags: ?) to
> change the tags area into a typing box where they can add/delete tags.
> If we want "quick tags" (i.e. be able to type into a text box and not
> have to press "Edit" and then "Save" then we can jut provide an empty
> text area after the listed tags. When a user types in any words and
> presses the spacebar, it is added the list of tags (ala the magic of
> Ajax))
Ah ok, that could work. Having a small edit link shouldn't be a problem. As
long as you guys can sort the ajax for that I think it could work very well=
.
I think that would be good for the categories section as well. Hmm I'll hav=
e
a look into that one as well.
* Perhaps the coloring scheme b/w Read and Unread items should be
> switched? I normally would prefer to read on a white background. We
> could even gray out (lighten) the text more on read items, or even
> "fold them up" to just the title bar? When, in this scheme, do feeds
> "disappear" from my "View new items"? When I click the "Next Items",
> "mark all as read" or what?
Okay just to further explain this section because there seems to be a bit o=
f
confusion but that's because I couldn't be bothered to put more than three
links. Basically the backgrounds alternate between grey and white. Makes it
easier for reading. When something is read it just goes normal, ie not bold=
.
Bold feeds means you've not read them, or that there are items in there tha=
t
have not been read. If you've got flagged items in there that doesn't
matter. The links will only be bold when they have not been read.
In terms of making the feeds disappear this is how I thought it would work,
and you can correct me if you think it's not the right way to go about it.
The fofr will download the total number of feeds allowed by a specific
website. It will then store the last 30 feeds or whatever from that
particular site, or whatever maximum number is required.
* "Save" - please add. Perhaps it's even just a button that adds a
> "saved" quicktag. (ooh, future feature, the ability for someone to
> select "quicktags" with a drop-select like Kevin's interface now. If I
> drop and select a quicktag it is quickly added with no typing
> necessary - I, for example, would want quicktags for 'save',
> 'bookmark', 'snippet', 'toforward')
I really don't understand the need for save anymore. I mean surely that's
what flagged items are right? By flagging an item effectively save it. Not
in so many words because it would be weird and standard practice is to flag
items as important or whatever for you to look at later.
K - that's it for now - long winded. Khaled, you're obviously doing a
> good job, since the better you do, the more people (like me) have
> little niggles/suggestions as it all gets massaged into place.
I absolutely love the fact that everyone has got a great deal of ideas and
thoughts and take the time to write these emails. It makes me want to sort
it out even more than before, because to be honest I'm feeding off people's
excitement right now, so this is all great stuff as we'll have the ULTIMATE
feed aggregator in a few short months. It's going to be HUGE, I can see it,
and what's even better it'll be completely open source, whichI love a great
deal.
As for the question of 0.3 release, I wonder about that. Perhaps we
> want to do a solid, last of it's breed, release as the system
> currently is, all bugs squashed and dangling, on the edge, feature
> requests. This will then give a very clear baseline change for 0.3 ->
> 0.4. I could see all these changes taking quite a little bit of dev
> time and introducing new bugs (we're all superstar programmers, so i'm
> *sure* we wouldn't introduce bugs ;)
>
> 0.3 won't be a huge press release event or anything. Just a rolling
> out of a bunch of added features and perhaps even suggest to people to
> not upgrade, but it's there if they want some of the nifty features
> that have popped up (tags, saved items, rss output). 0.3 is fairly
> ready for QA testing, and we would slate 0.4 for perhaps April 1
> release (the Fool Edition). :)
Sounds like a plan. It'll give me a couple of weeks to be able to deal with
the rest of the pages and issues. If we do get all the things we're talking
about from the mock ups done in the programme surely that's more than a
version 0.4 thought :). We can jump a couple of versions I'm sure :).
Andrew
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