Re: [Fofredux-devel] Version 0.7

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

Andrew Turner (nilspace) wrote:
> On 2/24/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm...> wrote:
>   
>> Okay I think I've cracked it.
>>
>> Here's the latest iteration:
>> www.brokenkode.com/fofr­/Version-0.7.jpg
>>
>> And this is the explanation behind all the change and how it all works.
>>
>> 1. The main header has the following changes. I've future proofed it so that
>> we have an area where we can have the different views. That is the sidebar
>> changes according to the view. So it could be feeds, categories or tags. In
>> time we might even have a history view as well.
>>     
>
> I like this change, as a user, I may want to have all of the sidebar
> goodies on a per-category or per-tag basis.
>
>   
I've also thought this would be a good feature.   I pictured the sidebar 
having tabs for quick access to the different item groupings we 
support.  [feeds][categories][tags][searches]  I sometimes want to read 
by category and it's not that easy to do, especially in framed view. 
>   
>> 4. The sidebar works in such a way that you click on the entire line, rather
>> than a link and it updates the frame on the right hand side.
>>
>> 5. Unread items are in BOLD, those that have been read are in normal text.
>>
>> 6. The total number of unread items is in there as well.
>>
>> 7. UNREAD items are highlighted in light blue on the side. Any of the actual
>> feeds are in the grey colours shown above that. That keeps things clear as
>> well.
>>
>> 8. Within the feeds line I've included the update individual icon as
>> requested.
>>
>> 9. Now to explain how I see the smaller toolbar . On the left hand side
>> those links control the sidebar. So you can select all or unselect all the
>> items, and then you can mark them as read or unread. Very simple way of MASS
>> deadling with feeds.
>>
>> 10. On the right hand side we've got the three links on viewing things below
>> that section itself. Yes I understand you can't mass do the marking as read
>> and unread here, but to be honest I think having that feature in the sidebar
>> makes a great deal more sense,…unless of course you guys feel otherwise.
>>     
>
> Here's how I use FoFR, so maybe it can give you an idea for what at
> least I would be looking for it "mass marking" the current view:
>  * I bring up either "new items", a specific feed, or a specific
> category, with max 10 items
>  * I quickly read through all the items in that view (all 10), mark
> "Save" on the items I want to scrutinize later
>  * When I get to the bottom, I press "Mark All Read", which marks
> those 10 as read.
>
> It's like reading "pages" of feeds. I tend to have variable number of
> minutes throughout the day to read, sometimes I just through a page,
> sometimes I'll pound through 5 pages, But marking items read by "page"
> rather than an entire feed, or individually selecting items, is a
> necessity for how I use FoFR.
>   
I also read this way.   I'll sort by oldest first and read/scan through 
the items, flagging them as I go along.  If I haven't gotten to the 
bottom, I'll mark read what's been flagged.

>> 11. Now this is where the first bit of ajax I can think of comes into mind.
>> Like I said before the individual unread items are in light blue, those that
>> have been read are in grey. My idea is and please tell me if this is
>> possible, once you click on the 'mark as read' tick box it turns it grey.
>> Hell it could fade it from the blue to the grey if we were really wanting to
>> be fancy.
>>
>>     
> ...
>
> Any thoughts on the non-framed view layout?
>
>   
The reason I use non-framed view is to get the sidebar out of the way.  
What I miss is the links in the top left corner for marking/tagging and 
switching views.  If sidebar could be hidden while still keeping the top 
menu, that would be great.   I picture the true *non-framed* view 
looking very similar to the mock ups Khaled has made.  The top menu 
would be included at the top of the panel or view page and not be in 
it's own frame.

Excellent work, Khaled.  I can't wait to see it in action.

-Kevin