Re: [Fofredux-devel] Version 0.7

[Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...>]

On 2/24/06, khaled Abou Alfa <bro...@gm...> wrote:
> Okay I think I've cracked it.
>
> Here's the latest iteration:
> www.brokenkode.com/fofr=AD/Version-0.7.jpg
>
> And this is the explanation behind all the change and how it all works.
>
> 1. The main header has the following changes. I've future proofed it so t=
hat
> we have an area where we can have the different views. That is the sideba=
r
> changes according to the view. So it could be feeds, categories or tags. =
In
> time we might even have a history view as well.

I like this change, as a user, I may want to have all of the sidebar
goodies on a per-category or per-tag basis.

> 2. On the other side, with a slightly grey background to distinguish betw=
een
> the types of links are the admin stuff. Adding feeds, categories and tags=
.
> The refresh button is in here as well. I'm going to be making this slight=
ly
> tighter and include the admin button in here as well. Making them smaller=
 is
> ok as they are definitely important however not as important as the views
> buttons which will come into use much more heavily.

What happened to login/logout and prefs?

>
> 3. The light blue in the sidebar highlights the feed that we are currentl=
y
> looking at. Once that LINE is clicked then it is highlighted light blue.
> When it is hovered over it's light magenta (I'll provide a mockup for tha=
t
> at some point for completist purposes. This I hope makes it generally muc=
h
> more simple for reading the actual feed itself.

Good

> 4. The sidebar works in such a way that you click on the entire line, rat=
her
> than a link and it updates the frame on the right hand side.
>
> 5. Unread items are in BOLD, those that have been read are in normal text=
.
>
> 6. The total number of unread items is in there as well.
>
> 7. UNREAD items are highlighted in light blue on the side. Any of the act=
ual
> feeds are in the grey colours shown above that. That keeps things clear a=
s
> well.
>
> 8. Within the feeds line I've included the update individual icon as
> requested.
>
> 9. Now to explain how I see the smaller toolbar . On the left hand side
> those links control the sidebar. So you can select all or unselect all th=
e
> items, and then you can mark them as read or unread. Very simple way of M=
ASS
> deadling with feeds.
>
> 10. On the right hand side we've got the three links on viewing things be=
low
> that section itself. Yes I understand you can't mass do the marking as re=
ad
> and unread here, but to be honest I think having that feature in the side=
bar
> makes a great deal more sense,=85unless of course you guys feel otherwise=
.

Here's how I use FoFR, so maybe it can give you an idea for what at
least I would be looking for it "mass marking" the current view:
 * I bring up either "new items", a specific feed, or a specific
category, with max 10 items
 * I quickly read through all the items in that view (all 10), mark
"Save" on the items I want to scrutinize later
 * When I get to the bottom, I press "Mark All Read", which marks
those 10 as read.

It's like reading "pages" of feeds. I tend to have variable number of
minutes throughout the day to read, sometimes I just through a page,
sometimes I'll pound through 5 pages, But marking items read by "page"
rather than an entire feed, or individually selecting items, is a
necessity for how I use FoFR.

Does that make sense? You also took out the "save" on an item, and
there is no way to add a new tag on an item?

> 11. Now this is where the first bit of ajax I can think of comes into min=
d.
> Like I said before the individual unread items are in light blue, those t=
hat
> have been read are in grey. My idea is and please tell me if this is
> possible, once you click on the 'mark as read' tick box it turns it grey.
> Hell it could fade it from the blue to the grey if we were really wanting=
 to
> be fancy.
>
Yes, this is definitely possible and actually pretty straight-forward.
I would see that you click "mark as read" then the item would change
color. Another preference may be to have the item actually dynamically
disappear. If you clicked "save" then the item would change another
color or also disappear (perhaps color vs. disappear is a user pref?)
Of course, this is exactly how TinyTinyRSS operates from what I tried
on the demo.

Also, I think we would want to ajaxify tagging items, and also having
the sidebar update the number of unread as items are marked read.

Any thoughts on the non-framed view layout?

Thanks for the great work and ideas Khaled. It's really great being
able to actually see how something can become so pretty with some
skill and knowledge :) Your efforts are really appreciated.

Andrew

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