[Fofredux-devel] Re: keyboard shortcut discussion

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Very good suggestions. I really like changing the link to "Today's
Unread items". And the ajax stuff sounds intriguing, though I imagine
you don't actually need Ajax. Or do you actually wait for a server
response before removing the div from the DOM? (ba-dim-dim :)  This
would be very nice - as long as it degrades to non-js browsers.

Good ideas on Keyboard as well. My suggestion at this point - let's
roll-out v0.2 as is. We'll make a branch for the keyboard stuff and
allow adventuresome types to try it out and give us feedback on what
scheme they like/use and we can twiddle the branch until it feels
solid & useable by many. Once that happens, we can roll it into 0.3+?

Andy


On 12/1/05, Benjamin Stewart <bs...@cr...> wrote:
> > I had thought kbd nav would also include selecting different feeds,
> > etc. I tend to use Page Up and Page Down for scrolling through pages.
>
> Might I suggest space and shift+space for just jumping through pages?
> shift+space rules.
>
> > I read this page:
> > http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html
>
> quirksmode is pretty super useful.
>
> > Which discusses compliant means for doing scrolling methods. Combined
> > with "Access Keys", it's possible to do:
> > --
> > <script type=3D"text/javascript">
> > function fr_scroll(inc)
> > {
> >         var x,y;
> ....
> > }
> > </script>
> > <a href=3D"javascript:scroll(0,0)" accesskey=3D"h">Top</a>
> > <a href=3D"javascript:fr_scroll(-200)" accesskey=3D"j">Up</a>
> > <a href=3D"javascript:fr_scroll(200)" accesskey=3D"k">Down</a>
> > --
>
> So uh, that code could probably be adapted pretty easily, since all I
> need to do is build a list of items on the page and then be able to jump
> to those items.
>
> I'll see about using this code tonight to see how hard it is.  I used
> the refeed code just because it was there and did what I wanted and
> allowed for a quick proof of concept.
>
> > I think the marking is *very* good idea - though I couldn't test it on
> > a large number of feeds. How does it know to jump to the next feed
> > item to be read?
>
> Oh, it doesn't actually do that.  It just jumps to the next item.
>
> So I kind of made an oversight here, which has to do with how I read my
> news:
>
> When I read, I read "today's unread items" instead of "today's items."
> On my personal menu, I added a link to
> /view.php?what=3Dall&when=3Dtoday&what=3Dunread -- the what=3Dunread is s=
uper
> useful.  On top of that, I have a second hack where I can *ajax* mark
> something read, which causes it to disappear from the page.
>
> Taken together, these two things mean that I never see "read" items when
> I'm reading, which means I don't have to skip read items.  In the
> current implementation, read items would be visible if I weren't using
> what=3Dunread, and marked items are visible no matter what.
>
> I'll be able to make it so that read items AND mark items get skipped,
> and 'j' can be "next unread / unmarked" and something else (control-j?)
> is absolute next item... But implementing the "I only want to see my
> unread news" by just putting the "today unread" link in the menu would
> be a nice feature to toss in there.
>
> I'll do it in my next commit.
>
> > I guess it can get the X,Y page location of the next
> > check-box and then scrollTo(x,y) that location.
>
> I'm not scrolling to the checkbox;  I'm scrolling to the top of the div.
>
> > In the end, I'm not sure what all the ReFeeds js stuff is including,
>
> A lot of crap. =3D)
>
> > but I think it's too heavy handed for just up/down and marking stuff.
> > I think we'll be better served by writing up our own JS code that's
> > smaller. The above code does scroll up/down (albeit with ctrl-j,
> > ctrl-k) and I would think the mark would be straight-forward?
>
> As mentioned, I'll follow up on optimizing this tonight.  But as
> implemented, I should be able to change the implementing javascript
> without changing the HTML at all -- I'll just need to remove the extra
> javascript includes.
>
> --Benjy
>


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