Re: [Fofredux-devel] Re: other issues / comments

[Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...>]

I think a tag is like a "categorization" of feeds and items. This has
been the 'traditional' meaning and the one that most users would come
in understanding from Flickr, del.icio.us, etc.

A "category" would mean a genre and is more general.

- tags are specific classifications (php, toread, code, political,
republican, article)
- categories are broad classificiations (programming, politics, local)

One of the discussion lines awhile ago was to not do categories, and
just do tags, since tags should be able to encapsulate anything a
category is. However, perhaps they are "too specific", and a hierachy
in an OPML file would be difficult, since feeds have multiple tags.
Now an OPML file can contain tag markups of feeds and items, but this
wouldn't be an outline form, just more metadata within the feed tags.

Categories are pretty much done, just some things to clean up in the
code (initial install when no categories exist or imported feeds w/o a
category - I guess just add an initial "None" category) But do you
think tags vs. categories as two organization schemes will confuse
users?

You brought up a good point about "Tagging" searches. I definitely
think saved searches ("smart folders") are great. These searches would
be available for reading or for providing an aggregated feed. Tagging
searches is interesting, can you provide an example of how it would
work?

Andy



On 11/28/05, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
>
> Carlos Kozuszko wrote:
> >And what about tagging the feeds instead of individual items ? Or
> > maybe tags for both could be implemented.
>
> I thought that's what categories were for. (grouping of feeds)   We could
> support both, but a clear definition of what a tag is and what a category
> is should be made.
>
> Here is my crazy brainstorming of what a tag could be.
>
> 1.  tag attach to item
> 2.  tag attach to feed
> 3.  tag attach to tag
> 4.  tag attach to category
> 5.  tag attach to search result
>
> So, I've partially implemented #1.  Which of the others listed really
> represent what a tag *IS*?   I thought about implementing tags as only #5=
.
>  Then, the tag is stored as a list of search criteria.  The nice thing
> about doing this is it allows the user create a tag using any of the abov=
e
> criteria, at the same time.  Tags could be made this flexible.  Do we nee=
d
> them to be?  Am I completely off base on what a tag is supposed to
> accomplish?
>
>
> >    I've already found a use for categories, lets say im importing a
> > opml file (as I actually do), the tree-like structure for the categorie=
s
> > could/should be preserved when adding those feeds to our database.
> > Likewise, when we export a opml file the categories should be
> > reflected in that file.
>
> How many levels should the category tree support?  Can a category contain
> feeds and other categories at the same time?
>
>
>
>
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