fofredux-devel

[Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Miles B. <mil...@gm...>]

I'm just curious when we'll get back to working on 0.4. I notice it has been
about three weeks since anything has been comitted.

Do we know what still needs to be done before this release is good to go?

-Miles

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

Miles Beck wrote:
> I'm just curious when we'll get back to working on 0.4. I notice it 
> has been about three weeks since anything has been comitted.
>
> Do we know what still needs to be done before this release is good to go?
There's quite a few UI bugs logged.   Those should be fixed at the very 
least.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=148967&atid=778255

I'd like to see some easy ajax features added also.  (like 
background/async 'mark as read', refresh, etc)

-Kevin

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Hi all,

one problem is we could really use a CSS/Web person to finish up the
implementation of Khaled's design. Anyone know of a designer with time
and desire to finish that? :)

And as Kevin pointed out the JS needs to be added. I think the top two
contenders were Prototype/Scriptaculous & the Yahoo JS UI libraries.

Andrew

On 10/4/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
> Miles Beck wrote:
> > I'm just curious when we'll get back to working on 0.4. I notice it
> > has been about three weeks since anything has been comitted.
> >
> > Do we know what still needs to be done before this release is good to go?
> There's quite a few UI bugs logged.   Those should be fixed at the very
> least.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=148967&atid=778255
>
> I'd like to see some easy ajax features added also.  (like
> background/async 'mark as read', refresh, etc)
>
> -Kevin
>

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Broken K. <bro...@gm...>]

Andrew,

I'm actually finishing off a website this week (come rain or shine) as
it's been going on for nearly 2 months now, so as I'm getting into the
whole css thing right now I can definitely finish this off by next week
and that's a promise (simply because it will be something I really want
to do).

If you can just wait for me to finish off my site then I can just finish
off the css code and write some notes on functionality.

On a similar note, has everyone had a look at newsgator? That's kind of
how seamlessly I think FOFR should operate, with some better
javascripting (currently some of it is windows friendly only which is a
bit rubbish).

Also one great option to have is utiliting the new google reader option
of making the feed as read when you scroll over it (that could be more
of an option to have in the future, if anyone has any idea how to
implement that?).





On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 10:17 -0400, Andrew Turner wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> one problem is we could really use a CSS/Web person to finish up the
> implementation of Khaled's design. Anyone know of a designer with time
> and desire to finish that? :)
> 
> And as Kevin pointed out the JS needs to be added. I think the top two
> contenders were Prototype/Scriptaculous & the Yahoo JS UI libraries.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 10/4/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
> > Miles Beck wrote:
> > > I'm just curious when we'll get back to working on 0.4. I notice it
> > > has been about three weeks since anything has been comitted.
> > >
> > > Do we know what still needs to be done before this release is good to go?
> > There's quite a few UI bugs logged.   Those should be fixed at the very
> > least.
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=148967&atid=778255
> >
> > I'd like to see some easy ajax features added also.  (like
> > background/async 'mark as read', refresh, etc)
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> 
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Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Khaled is alive too! Yay!

Broken Kode <bro...@gm...> wrote:
>
> If you can just wait for me to finish off my site then I can just finish
> off the css code and write some notes on functionality.

That's probably best - for you to go ahead and do it. Because then I
can focus on other things (and the more always the merrier?)

>
> On a similar note, has everyone had a look at newsgator? That's kind of
> how seamlessly I think FOFR should operate, with some better
> javascripting (currently some of it is windows friendly only which is a
> bit rubbish).

Right - definitely.

>
> Also one great option to have is utiliting the new google reader option
> of making the feed as read when you scroll over it (that could be more
> of an option to have in the future, if anyone has any idea how to
> implement that?).

There are ways. I haven't tried it yet on GoogleReader, but supposedly
it also has "infinite scrolling"? I have a greasemonkey script that
does the same thing on Google Results. When I get to the bottom of the
page, the next set of results is automatically appended to the bottom.
I really like that feature.

Thanks for the heads up Khaled,
Andrew

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

Khaled,

> Also one great option to have is utiliting the new google reader option
> of making the feed as read when you scroll over it (that could be more
> of an option to have in the future, if anyone has any idea how to
> implement that?).

We have to create functions to do common things via Ajax. (ex: mark as
read, add/remove tags, update feed, check for new items in view)  Once
that's done, we could  hook those functions into UI events in various
ways.  We already have a feature request to auto mark as read when the
user clicks on the link for an item.  We could also mark as read when the
item scrolls past the viewable window, etc.



--=20
Kevin

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

Good point - what is the list of functionality we'll want first:

* Set Read Status
* Set Tags (this will handle add/remove)
* Update Feed (s)
* Delete Feed
* Modify Feed (title, category)
* Get Items (number of, cat/feed/tag)

does that cover first iteration?

On 10/5/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
>
> Khaled,
>
> > Also one great option to have is utiliting the new google reader option
> > of making the feed as read when you scroll over it (that could be more
> > of an option to have in the future, if anyone has any idea how to
> > implement that?).
>
> We have to create functions to do common things via Ajax. (ex: mark as
> read, add/remove tags, update feed, check for new items in view)  Once
> that's done, we could  hook those functions into UI events in various
> ways.  We already have a feature request to auto mark as read when the
> user clicks on the link for an item.  We could also mark as read when the
> item scrolls past the viewable window, etc.
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin
>
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Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

> Good point - what is the list of functionality we'll want first:
>
> * Set Read Status
> * Set Tags (this will handle add/remove)
> * Update Feed (s)
> * Delete Feed
> * Modify Feed (title, category)
> * Get Items (number of, cat/feed/tag)
>
> does that cover first iteration?

Looks good.  All that server side code is already there, its just a matte=
r
of exposing it via some remoting api.

I've done some work with integrating phpxmlrpc.
(http://phpxmlrpc.sourceforge.net/)  I like what it can do so far.  It
allowed me to pull a list of feeds into a thick java app without touching
the database directly.  Apparently there's a JSON extension which might
work for our ajax needs.

That would be really nice to add ajax remoting support and get generic
XML-RPC support as a bonus.

--=20
Kevin

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...>]

On 10/5/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
> Looks good.  All that server side code is already there, its just a matter
> of exposing it via some remoting api.
>

Right - takers? ;)

> I've done some work with integrating phpxmlrpc.
> (http://phpxmlrpc.sourceforge.net/)  I like what it can do so far.  It
> allowed me to pull a list of feeds into a thick java app without touching
> the database directly.  Apparently there's a JSON extension which might
> work for our ajax needs.
>
> That would be really nice to add ajax remoting support and get generic
> XML-RPC support as a bonus.


THat would be a super-huge bonus! I think there is only 1 other
aggregator out there (Newsgator) that has an API. I really think we
can get huge leverage if we have an API and then work with a project
like NewsOwl (for Windows) or Vienna (for Mac OS X) to get them to do
syncing via that API.

Andrew

Re: [Fofredux-devel] 0.4 status?

[Kevin <ke...@dr...>]

Andrew Turner wrote:
> On 10/5/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote:
>> Looks good.  All that server side code is already there, its just a 
>> matter
>> of exposing it via some remoting api.
>>
>
> Right - takers? ;)
>
Umm..   (raises hand sheepishly...)

>
> THat would be a super-huge bonus! I think there is only 1 other
> aggregator out there (Newsgator) that has an API. I really think we
> can get huge leverage if we have an API and then work with a project
> like NewsOwl (for Windows) or Vienna (for Mac OS X) to get them to do
> syncing via that API.
>
http://gggeek.altervista.org/sw/article_20060426.html

Using this howto, we can literally have the exact same server side url 
service both xmlrpc and jsonrpc requests.    I'm liking what I see so 
far.   The ajax addon (phpxmlrpc extras package) will autogenerate 
javascript functions for all methods exposed by the jsonrpc server.  
There's a real bonus, on the fly code generation. 

-Kevin