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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-05-17 13:56:23
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Saw this on BoingBoing regarding "FeedRinse" "FeedRinse is a service that filters the RSS feeds you subscribe to, hiding items that match keywords or authors you don't want to see. This is a service that's both so vital and so obvious that it's practically an indictment of RSS feedreaders that they don't all include this already." http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/16/feedrinse_filters_fo.html Basically it's like what we're planning for saved searches, but nice to have "exclusions" too. Andrew --=20 Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-05-17 17:14:58
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> Date: May 17, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Fofredux-devel] Some features to think about To: Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> i was thinking the same thing...maybe i'll play around with it next week...have off and will do some more programming /evan On 5/17/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > Saw this on BoingBoing regarding "FeedRinse" > "FeedRinse is a service that filters the RSS feeds you subscribe to, > hiding items that match keywords or authors you don't want to see. > This is a service that's both so vital and so obvious that it's > practically an indictment of RSS feedreaders that they don't all > include this already." > > > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/16/feedrinse_filters_fo.html > > > Basically it's like what we're planning for saved searches, but nice > to have "exclusions" too. > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642<htt= p://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid%120709&bid&3057&dat%121642> > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-05-17 19:19:39
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another idea would be, and i think it's on the todo list anyway, to incorporate some sort of adfiltering. i use squid with adzapper at home here, and it has a nice regexp filtering for all http requests, but when i view the feeds from elsewhere, i get all the ads. wonder how difficult it would be to snap all that stuff in...or develop our own. On 5/17/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> > Date: May 17, 2006 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Fofredux-devel] Some features to think about > To: Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> > > i was thinking the same thing...maybe i'll play around with it next > week...have off and will do some more programming > > /evan > > > On 5/17/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > > > Saw this on BoingBoing regarding "FeedRinse" > > "FeedRinse is a service that filters the RSS feeds you subscribe to, > > hiding items that match keywords or authors you don't want to see. > > This is a service that's both so vital and so obvious that it's > > practically an indictment of RSS feedreaders that they don't all > > include this already." > > > > > > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/16/feedrinse_filters_fo.html > > > > > > Basically it's like what we're planning for saved searches, but nice > > to have "exclusions" too. > > Andrew > > > > -- > > Andrew Turner > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642<h= ttp://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid%120709&bid&3057&dat%121642> > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-05-17 19:25:04
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yep, there is a feature request on SF (made by a rather ornery user, if I may say so myself), which some good regexp suggestions. Definitely something that would be nice to add and probably fairly simple to add. I guess this would just be part of hte search feature as a checkbox (filter out ads) Andrew On 5/17/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > another idea would be, and i think it's on the todo list anyway, to > incorporate some sort of adfiltering. i use squid with adzapper at home > here, and it has a nice regexp filtering for all http requests, but when = i > view the feeds from elsewhere, i get all the ads. wonder how difficult i= t > would be to snap all that stuff in...or develop our own. > > > On 5/17/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Evan Roth < eva...@gm...> > > Date: May 17, 2006 7:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Fofredux-devel] Some features to think about > > To: Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi... > > > > > > > i was thinking the same thing...maybe i'll play around with it next > week...have off and will do some more programming > > > > > > /evan > > > > > > > > On 5/17/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > > Saw this on BoingBoing regarding "FeedRinse" > > > "FeedRinse is a service that filters the RSS feeds you subscribe to, > > > hiding items that match keywords or authors you don't want to see. > > > This is a service that's both so vital and so obvious that it's > > > practically an indictment of RSS feedreaders that they don't all > > > include this already." > > > > > > > > > > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/16/feedrinse_filters_fo.html > > > > > > > > > Basically it's like what we're planning for saved searches, but nice > > > to have "exclusions" too. > > > Andrew > > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Turner > > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your jo= b > easier > > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > > Fof...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > > > > > --=20 Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Miles B. <mil...@gm...> - 2006-05-17 19:45:38
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Speaking of features, would it be a lot of work/time to implement a feature I added on the feature request page? The feature number is: 1445226 Saved items feed What I'm really after here is something like a feed display that could show you on the main page how many items were in the View Saved Items section. This way you could easily see at a glance how many you had marked as saved. It would be great if this could be implemented for 0.4. Hopefully we can also see some of the UI redesign make it into SVN soon. I'd also like to thank everyone for all the great work, this is coming along nicely. -Miles |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-05-17 20:43:53
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miles, it should be pretty simple to add that, since it's really just a counter, which we have several of already. i've got the next week off, after a grueling 2 weeks in the office, so i'll start attacking some of those features. i've seen that kevin has been making major headway on the refactoring of everything. i think my first goal, since i've got a week set aside...barring anything strange happening...will be to start to really implement multi-user. i've got it mentally laid out, but there is tons of database work which means dissecting some tables and moving the data around a bit. all of that is easy to start from, but it's trickier to try to mold an existing database with real data in there. which gets me to my point. in there is the status flag, which will need to be saved for each user to each item. currently, we have 1 flag, with 3 possible values (unread, read, or saved) -- does it make sense to build on this? 1st thought is to split those into 2 flags, read and saved, which means tha= t an item would be read or unread AND saved or not saved. Does anyone see an= y use for this? my thought would be that, especially for people with tons of feeds, they could flip through and save the items they want to read later, and then work those off form an alternaview of unread saved items. and thus, there's a built in filter of special saved items as well as the massive amount of standard items. (and saved items will never be wiped fro= m the database, whether read or unread) make sense...or would noone really use such a capability? any other ideas on flags? or views that might be easier...without some sor= t of text filter at this stage? /evan On 5/17/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > > Speaking of features, would it be a lot of work/time to implement a > feature I added on the feature request page? > > The feature number is: 1445226 > > Saved items feed > What I'm really after here is something like a feed display that could > show you on the main page how many items were in the View Saved Items > section. This way you could easily see at a glance how many you had > marked as saved. > > It would be great if this could be implemented for 0.4. Hopefully we > can also see some of the UI redesign make it into SVN soon. > > I'd also like to thank everyone for all the great work, this is coming > along nicely. > > -Miles > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronim= o > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-05-17 21:13:11
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We had discussed moving read/unread/saved to tags, which provides you with the mixed case scenario you gave. It also takes out a lot of "special handling" in the logic. Perhaps just keep the "read" flag but move the saved to a tag. As for the #saved items or saved feed, this will really just be a sub-set of a saved search, where the search is for all items with the tag "save". So when the functionality for saving searches/views is in the model/controller code, we can add that. I'll be picking up and putting together the UI this weekend. Andrew On 5/17/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > miles, > it should be pretty simple to add that, since it's really just a counter, > which we have several of already. > > i've got the next week off, after a grueling 2 weeks in the office, so i'= ll > start attacking some of those features. i've seen that kevin has been > making major headway on the refactoring of everything. > > i think my first goal, since i've got a week set aside...barring anything > strange happening...will be to start to really implement multi-user. i'v= e > got it mentally laid out, but there is tons of database work which means > dissecting some tables and moving the data around a bit. all of that is > easy to start from, but it's trickier to try to mold an existing database > with real data in there. > which gets me to my point. in there is the status flag, which will need = to > be saved for each user to each item. currently, we have 1 flag, with 3 > possible values (unread, read, or saved) > -- does it make sense to build on this? > 1st thought is to split those into 2 flags, read and saved, which means t= hat > an item would be read or unread AND saved or not saved. Does anyone see = any > use for this? my thought would be that, especially for people with tons = of > feeds, they could flip through and save the items they want to read later= , > and then work those off form an alternaview of unread saved items. and > thus, there's a built in filter of special saved items as well as the > massive amount of standard items. (and saved items will never be wiped f= rom > the database, whether read or unread) make sense...or would noone really > use such a capability? > > any other ideas on flags? or views that might be easier...without some s= ort > of text filter at this stage? > > /evan > > > > On 5/17/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > > Speaking of features, would it be a lot of work/time to implement a > > feature I added on the feature request page? > > > > The feature number is: 1445226 > > > > Saved items feed > > What I'm really after here is something like a feed display that could > > show you on the main page how many items were in the View Saved Items > > section. This way you could easily see at a glance how many you had > > marked as saved. > > > > It would be great if this could be implemented for 0.4. Hopefully we > > can also see some of the UI redesign make it into SVN soon. > > > > I'd also like to thank everyone for all the great work, this is coming > > along nicely. > > > > -Miles > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, securit= y? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geron= imo > > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=120709&bid&3057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > --=20 Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-05-17 21:37:38
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> We had discussed moving read/unread/saved to tags, which provides you > with the mixed case scenario you gave. It also takes out a lot of > "special handling" in the logic. Perhaps just keep the "read" flag but > move the saved to a tag. Yea, we figured the item flag really is just a special kind of tag. By using the tag <-> item relationship in the database we can add new flags or alter their behavior without changing the db schema. We could add a field to the tag table to mark tags for internal use.=20 They would be filtered from view so the user could not directly add/remove a reserved tag from an item. That will be handled internally by the item model code. --=20 Kevin |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-05-17 21:57:53
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On 5/17/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > We had discussed moving read/unread/saved to tags, which provides you > > with the mixed case scenario you gave. It also takes out a lot of > > "special handling" in the logic. Perhaps just keep the "read" flag but > > move the saved to a tag. > > Yea, we figured the item flag really is just a special kind of tag. By > using the tag <-> item relationship in the database we can add new flags > or alter their behavior without changing the db schema. > > We could add a field to the tag table to mark tags for internal use. > They would be filtered from view so the user could not directly > add/remove a reserved tag from an item. That will be handled internally > by the item model code. > I like this idea. It keeps searches and such simpler - less fields and compexity. > -- > Kevin > > --=20 Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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