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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-04-17 17:32:00
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Roadmap: Now that we're putting together the next major version of FoFRedux, I wanted to gather people's ideas on what the next version should include, and how we want to go about adding it all in a timely, and constructive, manner. There are 3 major modifications happening (that I can think of): 1) Code framework cleanup/pull-apart 2) Multiple Users 3) UI redesign implementation, and ajax Items 1 & 2 should happen together, as functions will need to receive the user_id or session of the current logged in user requesting data. Furthermore, a user table and several join tables will have to be added to associate users with their: feeds, items, tags, and options. Beginning item 3 can be done largely independent of items 1 & 2, as it is implementing Khaled's designs in CSS/HTML/JS. When it comes to actually hooking in the UI into the code, that's where items 1 & 3 will need to coordinate. The purpose of the Code cleanup is to separate the "View" logic from the Controller logic (assuming we use some kind of MVC design idea), so the View interface can be spec'd later. Katie & Kevin, can you you two handle items 1 & 2? You have the most experience with modifying the db and logic. Khaled and I can start on implementing the UI changes. Any other devs floating around out there that will have free-time coming up that want to pick up any of these items or bug/features req's on the SF site? :) Let me know what you think, Andrew PS > Mapping: I finally got a little bit of time to toss in basic mapping. As you may remember/know, I'm a huge geo/mapping nut and this was one of the reasons I originally picked up FoFRedux. I now have GeoRSS support of the rss output and can display feed items on a GoogleMap. I'm planning on adding better viewing/listing. The parameters in the map.php are the same as view.php and rss.php. http://code.highearthorbit.com/fofredux/fofredux_head/map.php?feed=3D29 -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-04-18 16:41:42
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Andrew Turner wrote: > Roadmap: > Now that we're putting together the next major version of FoFRedux, I > wanted to gather people's ideas on what the next version should > include, and how we want to go about adding it all in a timely, and > constructive, manner. > > There are 3 major modifications happening (that I can think of): > 1) Code framework cleanup/pull-apart > 2) Multiple Users > 3) UI redesign implementation, and ajax > > Items 1 & 2 should happen together, as functions will need to receive > the user_id or session of the current logged in user requesting data. > Furthermore, a user table and several join tables will have to be > added to associate users with their: feeds, items, tags, and options. > > Beginning item 3 can be done largely independent of items 1 & 2, as it > is implementing Khaled's designs in CSS/HTML/JS. When it comes to > actually hooking in the UI into the code, that's where items 1 & 3 > will need to coordinate. > > The purpose of the Code cleanup is to separate the "View" logic from > the Controller logic (assuming we use some kind of MVC design idea), > so the View interface can be spec'd later. > > Katie & Kevin, can you you two handle items 1 & 2? You have the most > experience with modifying the db and logic. > > Sure, I can help with that. The code could definitely use some "spring cleaning". > PS > > Mapping: > I finally got a little bit of time to toss in basic mapping. As you > may remember/know, I'm a huge geo/mapping nut and this was one of the > reasons I originally picked up FoFRedux. I now have GeoRSS support of > the rss output and can display feed items on a GoogleMap. I'm planning > on adding better viewing/listing. The parameters in the map.php are > the same as view.php and rss.php. > > http://code.highearthorbit.com/fofredux/fofredux_head/map.php?feed=29 > > > That's pretty cool. I don't see myself using it. This might be a good candidate for a plugin. -Kevin |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-04-18 17:34:14
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On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > Andrew Turner wrote: > > Roadmap: > > Katie & Kevin, can you you two handle items 1 & 2? You have the most > > experience with modifying the db and logic. > > > > > Sure, I can help with that. The code could definitely use some "spring > cleaning". Good way to put it. :) > > > PS > > > Mapping: > > http://code.highearthorbit.com/fofredux/fofredux_head/map.php?feed=3D29 > > > > > > > That's pretty cool. I don't see myself using it. This might be a good > candidate for a plugin. I don't imagine everyone will use it. However, there is a big push in the GIS (Geographic Info Systems) to use GeoRSS. There currently are *no* GeoRSS capable readers/aggregators. So, this would be a big way to get lots of users/visibility, plus just being a 'neat' factor. It's definitely a good example of a plugin. You/Katie can talk about what kind of hooks to the API we would expose for a plugin. The map.php actually just calls the rss.php, but it would be nice to provide an "include fofredux_api" or something that provided things like get_feeds(), get_items(), etc. Andrew -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Broken K. <kha...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 19:49:46
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I really like that, but it's definitely more of a plugin type of thing, still very cool indeed. I'm more than happy to jump into the whole css editing thing, I'm a bit busy from now till 1st of May as I'm actively redesigning my site (index page has a nice section dedicated for FOFR, to drive more people to the software), but once that is finished I should have a little bit more time to sort out the remaining bits and pieces of the design. Andrew Turner wrote: > On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > >> Andrew Turner wrote: >> >>> Roadmap: >>> Katie & Kevin, can you you two handle items 1 & 2? You have the most >>> experience with modifying the db and logic. >>> >>> >>> >> Sure, I can help with that. The code could definitely use some "spring >> cleaning". >> > > Good way to put it. :) > > >>> PS > >>> Mapping: >>> > > >>> http://code.highearthorbit.com/fofredux/fofredux_head/map.php?feed=29 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> That's pretty cool. I don't see myself using it. This might be a good >> candidate for a plugin. >> > > I don't imagine everyone will use it. However, there is a big push in > the GIS (Geographic Info Systems) to use GeoRSS. There currently are > *no* GeoRSS capable readers/aggregators. So, this would be a big way > to get lots of users/visibility, plus just being a 'neat' factor. > > It's definitely a good example of a plugin. You/Katie can talk about > what kind of hooks to the API we would expose for a plugin. The > map.php actually just calls the rss.php, but it would be nice to > provide an "include fofredux_api" or something that provided things > like get_feeds(), get_items(), etc. > > Andrew > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 20:01:14
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Hey guys, i'd be happy to jump in to help on multi-user stuff. i had started hacking that into an older version of fof over a year ago. (it's also one of thing= s i do for a living) my initial thoughts at the time, which might have been a few steps too far, were to handle each feed only once. which means, we'd need to pull all the status info pertinant to each user into a seperate table. It's a bit of extra work, but you have two major advantages: 1. db will remain a slim as possible 2. you aren't hammering feeds unnecessarily. i'm running 3 installs currently for myself and 2 others, and i've gotten banned on slashdot a few times, since the cronjobs to update-quiet were going off too close to one another. ie. simply being a good netizen. i just need to get eclipse to play nice with the sourceforge subversion. then i'm good to go. do we have a dev guide somewhere? anyone organize specific tasks...or basically a free-for-all headed toward a certain goal? later /evan On 4/18/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > Andrew Turner wrote: > > > Roadmap: > > > Katie & Kevin, can you you two handle items 1 & 2? You have the most > > > experience with modifying the db and logic. > > > > > > > > Sure, I can help with that. The code could definitely use some "spring > > cleaning". > > Good way to put it. :) > > > > > > PS > > > > Mapping: > > > > http://code.highearthorbit.com/fofredux/fofredux_head/map.php?feed=3D= 29 > > > > > > > > > > > That's pretty cool. I don't see myself using it. This might be a goo= d > > candidate for a plugin. > > I don't imagine everyone will use it. However, there is a big push in > the GIS (Geographic Info Systems) to use GeoRSS. There currently are > *no* GeoRSS capable readers/aggregators. So, this would be a big way > to get lots of users/visibility, plus just being a 'neat' factor. > > It's definitely a good example of a plugin. You/Katie can talk about > what kind of hooks to the API we would expose for a plugin. The > map.php actually just calls the rss.php, but it would be nice to > provide an "include fofredux_api" or something that provided things > like get_feeds(), get_items(), etc. > > Andrew > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > <http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid%110944&bid$1720&dat%121642> > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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From: Katie B. <ka...@ho...> - 2006-04-18 20:23:09
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:01:06PM +0200, Evan Roth wrote: > do we have a dev guide somewhere? anyone organize specific tasks...or > basically a free-for-all headed toward a certain goal? Indeed, we have a general developer guide in the repository's base directory (helpfully named DEVELOPER_GUIDE). It doesn't address the imminent redesign, though. Any thoughts on where the discussion of specific tasks should take place? On this list? Privately among developers working in the same area? On designated SourceForge forums? -- Katie Bechtold http://hoteldetective.org/ |
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From: Andrew T. <ajt...@hi...> - 2006-04-18 20:38:08
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On 4/18/06, Katie Bechtold <ka...@ho...> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:01:06PM +0200, Evan Roth wrote:
> > do we have a dev guide somewhere? anyone organize specific tasks...or
> > basically a free-for-all headed toward a certain goal?
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> Indeed, we have a general developer guide in the repository's base
> directory (helpfully named DEVELOPER_GUIDE). It doesn't address the
> imminent redesign, though.
Katie's right, it doesn't cover the redesign, but that's some of the
things we have to work out. I would recommend Evan look at the guide,
and then begin coordinating with Katie & Kevin. If as you're going you
can comment well and possibly even write a basic high-level arch doc
that would be very cool. Same for UI in defining color guide, layout
ideals, etc. B/c people may/will start contributing and it will be
nice for having the code/design already in line with what we have.
Evan is also right that we want to keep the database slim, if not for
size, but actual maintainability in the logic, and also for htting
feeds. Which means moving tags, read status, etc. off to user indexed
tables.
> Any thoughts on where the discussion of specific tasks should take
> place? On this list? Privately among developers working in the same
> area? On designated SourceForge forums?
I recommend we add/update the pertinent, high-level, feature requests:
multi-user, ui redesign, plugin arch. However, specific tasks can
probably be divided by the "working groups" via email. I would like to
keep much of the discussion here on the fofredux-devel list as it
allows the whole team to keep up to speed on what is going on where
(e.g. UI redesign can catch and view based code redesign discussions).
The email list is also searchable, and easily replyable. The team
isn't so big that there are too many discussions going on either -
there were 3 primary devs for 0.3, with Evan & Khaled now coming in on
0.4, and perhaps 1 or 2 hidding devs out there to add to the total.
Just keep your subject lines informative the discussion (not just
FoFRedux, but FoFRedux CSS problems). If the traffic becomes too much,
we can readdress the issue at that point. An obviously it's ok to move
very specific discussion ("what does line 543 mean?") off to private
emails/IMs/carrier pigeons.
Andrew
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-04-18 21:08:29
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> On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:01:06PM +0200, Evan Roth wrote: >> do we have a dev guide somewhere? anyone organize specific tasks...or >> basically a free-for-all headed toward a certain goal? > > Indeed, we have a general developer guide in the repository's base > directory (helpfully named DEVELOPER_GUIDE). It doesn't address the > imminent redesign, though. It's more of a code and release management guide.(for CVS, it will have t= o be revised for SVN) We use the SF project tracker to assign and prioritiz= e tasks among the devs. > Any thoughts on where the discussion of specific tasks should take > place? On this list? Privately among developers working in the same > area? On designated SourceForge forums? We haven't had a problem with keeping everything on list, so far. If it becomes unmanageable, we could do something else.(additional forums or lists) -- Kevin |
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From: Broken K. <kha...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 21:34:49
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I'm going to be terribly selfish and ask for the first thing to be implement being the login/secure functionality :). For some reason DH keeps giving me gyp whenever I try and modify the accessibility of the folder fofr is currently sitting in and just stops working, it's been seriously annoying and as I've been getting my server hammer from spammer and whatever I'm not so keen on keeping it open to the masses. Also Kevin wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:01:06PM +0200, Evan Roth wrote: >> >>> do we have a dev guide somewhere? anyone organize specific tasks...or >>> basically a free-for-all headed toward a certain goal? >>> >> Indeed, we have a general developer guide in the repository's base >> directory (helpfully named DEVELOPER_GUIDE). It doesn't address the >> imminent redesign, though. >> > > It's more of a code and release management guide.(for CVS, it will have to > be revised for SVN) We use the SF project tracker to assign and prioritize > tasks among the devs. > > >> Any thoughts on where the discussion of specific tasks should take >> place? On this list? Privately among developers working in the same >> area? On designated SourceForge forums? >> > > We haven't had a problem with keeping everything on list, so far. If it > becomes unmanageable, we could do something else.(additional forums or > lists) > > -- > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 20:04:45
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side note guys: sourceforge download is still offering 0.2. someone may want to update that. and in general, khaled, you may want to begin thinking about redoing the fofredux site at sourceforge, once 0.4 is released, since you'll (probably) need to swap out the screenshots. /evan On 4/18/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > > Hey guys, > > i'd be happy to jump in to help on multi-user stuff. i had started > hacking that into an older version of fof over a year ago. (it's also on= e > of things i do for a living) > > my initial thoughts at the time, which might have been a few steps too > far, were to handle each feed only once. which means, we'd need to pull = all > the status info pertinant to each user into a seperate table. It's a bit= of > extra work, but you have two major advantages: > 1. db will remain a slim as possible > 2. you aren't hammering feeds unnecessarily. i'm running 3 installs > currently for myself and 2 others, and i've gotten banned on slashdot a f= ew > times, since the cronjobs to update-quiet were going off too close to one > another. ie. simply being a good netizen. > > i just need to get eclipse to play nice with the sourceforge subversion. > then i'm good to go. > do we have a dev guide somewhere? anyone organize specific tasks...or > basically a free-for-all headed toward a certain goal? > > later > /evan > > > > > On 4/18/06, Andrew Turner <ajt...@hi...> wrote: > > > > On 4/18/06, Kevin < ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > Andrew Turner wrote: > > > > Roadmap: > > > > Katie & Kevin, can you you two handle items 1 & 2? You have the mos= t > > > > experience with modifying the db and logic. > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, I can help with that. The code could definitely use some > > "spring > > > cleaning". > > > > Good way to put it. :) > > > > > > > > > PS > > > > > Mapping: > > > > > > http://code.highearthorbit.com/fofredux/fofredux_head/map.php?feed= =3D29 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's pretty cool. I don't see myself using it. This might be a > > good > > > candidate for a plugin. > > > > I don't imagine everyone will use it. However, there is a big push in > > the GIS (Geographic Info Systems) to use GeoRSS. There currently are > > *no* GeoRSS capable readers/aggregators. So, this would be a big way > > to get lots of users/visibility, plus just being a 'neat' factor. > > > > It's definitely a good example of a plugin. You/Katie can talk about > > what kind of hooks to the API we would expose for a plugin. The > > map.php actually just calls the rss.php, but it would be nice to > > provide an "include fofredux_api" or something that provided things > > like get_feeds(), get_items(), etc. > > > > Andrew > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Turner > > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > > territory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > <http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid%110944&bid$1720&dat%121642> > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > |
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From: Kevin <ke...@dr...> - 2006-04-18 20:24:04
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> side note guys: > sourceforge download is still offering 0.2. someone may want to update > that. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D148967 I see 0.3.1. Where are you only seeing 0.2? -Kevin |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 20:30:43
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re Kevin: http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/ then click on download re Katie: forums or mail works...based on which people prefer. if mail is better, than perhaps it makes some sense to split it up into a few extra lists (ie. UI, featuretree1, featuretree2, whatever)...just not to flood to= o many people. On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > > side note guys: > > sourceforge download is still offering 0.2. someone may want to update > > that. > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D148967 > > I see 0.3.1. Where are you only seeing 0.2? > > -Kevin > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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From: Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...> - 2006-04-18 20:41:34
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On 4/18/06, Evan Roth <eva...@gm...> wrote: > re Kevin: http://fofredux.sourceforge.net/ then click on > download Evan, I have *no* idea what you're talking about. Looks fine to me? ok - so I cheated. :) you're right, it was pointing to a specific release. I changed the link to point to the file releases page in general. Thanks for pointing this out - may not have gotten noticed for quite awhile. :) -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Miles B. <mil...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 20:39:58
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On 4/18/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > > > side note guys: > > > sourceforge download is still offering 0.2. someone may want to upda= te > > > that. > > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D148967 > > > > I see 0.3.1. Where are you only seeing 0.2? > > > > -Kevin > > On another note. When I installed 0.3.1 I noticed the version shows as 0.= 4-dev. Bah, meant to reply to the list. Instead I replied to Kevin. Stupid gmail..= . |
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From: Andrew T. (nilspace) <nil...@us...> - 2006-04-18 20:43:44
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<thpt!> (you're right, I was hoping no on would notice) this was b/c 3.1 was modified and released after the tag was moved up on the dev tree. What should have happened (if I understand our suggested CVS process) is that I should have branched the Trunk at REL-0_3. What I did, however, was make the change to rss.php and create a new REL-0_3_1 tag for this new release. Kevin was very quick on getting us stepped up to 0.4 :) Andrew On 4/18/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > On 4/18/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > > On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > > > > > side note guys: > > > > sourceforge download is still offering 0.2. someone may want to up= date > > > > that. > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D148967 > > > > > > I see 0.3.1. Where are you only seeing 0.2? > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > On another note. When I installed 0.3.1 I noticed the version shows as = 0.4-dev. > > Bah, meant to reply to the list. Instead I replied to Kevin. Stupid gmail= ... > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting langua= ge > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webc= ast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territor= y! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > -- Andrew Turner ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA |
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From: Evan R. <eva...@gm...> - 2006-04-18 20:50:09
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i notice init.php jumps from $revision 1.64 to 1.65 as well. what was changed there? is it necessary or can i just replace the new rss.php in my dir? On 4/18/06, Andrew Turner (nilspace) <nil...@us...> wrote= : > > <thpt!> (you're right, I was hoping no on would notice) > > this was b/c 3.1 was modified and released after the tag was moved up > on the dev tree. What should have happened (if I understand our > suggested CVS process) is that I should have branched the Trunk at > REL-0_3. What I did, however, was make the change to rss.php and > create a new REL-0_3_1 tag for this new release. > > Kevin was very quick on getting us stepped up to 0.4 :) > > Andrew > > On 4/18/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > > On 4/18/06, Miles Beck <mil...@gm...> wrote: > > > On 4/18/06, Kevin <ke...@dr...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > side note guys: > > > > > sourceforge download is still offering 0.2. someone may want to > update > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D148967 > > > > > > > > I see 0.3.1. Where are you only seeing 0.2? > > > > > > > > -Kevin > > > > > > On another note. When I installed 0.3.1 I noticed the version shows a= s > 0.4-dev. > > > > Bah, meant to reply to the list. Instead I replied to Kevin. Stupid > gmail... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > > Fofredux-devel mailing list > > Fof...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > > > > > -- > Andrew Turner > ajt...@hi... 42.4266N x 83.4931W > http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid=110944&bid$1720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Fofredux-devel mailing list > Fof...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fofredux-devel > |
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