Here's another thought.  When we find these rogue / offensive / completely full of !@#$@# affiliates, we could report them to the web site.  Presumably they lose when an affiliate acts badly.  Maybe they don't care, but maybe they do.  That's yet to be determined, but if we report some of these affiliates directly to it would be interesting to see what they would do --- or not do.  That would be very telling and would help us decide if it's best to concentrate our efforts on reporting rogue affiliates or go straight towards

We also should try to build up contacts with proflightsimulator customers.  If they feel they have been ripped off we need to start documenting what they've done and who've they have contacted to try to get a refund.  proflightsim promises a 100% no-hassle refund if people ask.

There is a lot of confusion floating around between rogue affiliates out right spamming and lying and even saying hateful things, affiliates operation under false identies, etc.  We should start documenting reality and see if we can separate out the actions of versus the various affiliates and try to understand if people can actually get a refund if they want one, if it's a full refund of all charges (people are getting multiple additional charges on their credit cards, etc.)


On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:52 PM, George Patterson <> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Heiko Schulz <> wrote:
> Hi,
> A mail to Airbus should be enough to deal with!

This domain name is registered to Wodonga, in Victoria Australia,
contact email address is a web design company (
So yes, a email to Airbus could be the best way to deal with it.
Especially when they are making it sound as though their 'solution' is
a certified flight simulator.

> After reading a newsarticle about products piraty of german cars like SMART and Mercedes in China I slowly begin to think more and more that the poeple behind the rip-off  sits in China, and it isn't just one man behind....

Yes and no. It's an affiliate Multi-level marketing scheme. If I could
figure out a way of playing off one affiliate against another and not
get caught in the cross fire, I would do it. In the mean time, search
youtube for flight pro sim but under search options, select Today. and
thumb down their videos so at least they do not rank highly in Reporting a video as scam/fraud seems to be very hit and
miss. Perhaps youtube staff don't have long to review a video to
decide whether to pull the video or not (only guessing here).

BTW, I wouldn't want to say where in the world these slime balls are located.



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