From: Hal V. Engel
Sent: 30 May 2011 23:45
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel]
Rating System Redux (was Re:Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 12)
On Monday, May 30, 2011
12:47:41 PM Stuart Buchanan wrote:
>> I don't have a good answer for the other items. Some are nice-to-haves
>> that enrich
>> the simulation experience but don't impact simulation of flight
>> itself, but others
>> (such as a co-pilot) are more important for multi-crew aircraft.
> Call them all "advanced features". That could be a/the criterion
> "advanced production"
I'm not sure. The "Advanced production" bar is already very high -
and two 4s.
I'm not sure if any aircraft will actually gain it!
would expect that at this point only a few aircraft out there are close to or
are "advanced production" quality. It is a very high standard and any
aircraft that is that far along should really stand out. I would expect that
most of the most advanced current models only need perhaps 1 or 2 points to get
there but adding points when the models are that far along is a lot of work.
But I would be surprised if there were more than a handful of aircraft that
were far enough along to only need 1 or 2 points to become "advanced
production". I think I agree with Stuart that having some things called
"advanced features" does not add much if anything to the system
particularly when we have so many models that are missing many basic things.
example of one that is close but needs more work is the p51d-jsbsim model. It
only needs to improve the external model (add livery support to go from a 3 to
a 4) to get to "production" status and then add one more point in
cockpit, external model or systems would make it "advanced
it has the following ratings:
3D modeling stuff is not my strong suit but I do have new more accurate 3D
models for the fuselage and wing (including flaps and aileraons) for the P-51D
that I created a while back. I have also more accurately modeled the cooling
inlet passages and the oil and coolant radiators so that these will look
correct (once textured) when looking into the cooling inlet. I need to uvmap
all of this stuff now and this is where I get stuck as I can't figure out how
to do this so that the resulting uvmaps can be used to create livery support.
Having a nice user friendly uvmap for the fugelage and wings is more or less
nessary to move ahead with libery support I think.
Systems adding emergency gear release support, oxygen system support, full
cooling system support, VHF radio support, rear warning radar support, IFF
support and some missing electrical system stuff would increase this to a 5.
The 3D models for the controls for all of these systems are already in the
comment about systems. For the P-51 series there are two cooling doors that are
used to control cooling airflow. One for the engine coolant and one for the oil
cooler. JSBSim has support for the coolant door controls but not for the oil
cooler door controls. I have the automatic coolant door stuff modeled but not
the automatic oil cooler stuff because of this. I also need to add manual
overides for these at some point (the controls are in the cockpit but currently
only allow for automatic control). What I am getting at is that some systems
can not be fully modeled because of limitations in the FDM being used and
aircraft authors should rate these as complete systems if they have modeled
everything that is possible with the existing FDM support.
Cockpit adding the fuselage fuel tank and guage, a few missing placards, the
arm rest, the map bag and improved texturing would pretty much get it a 5.
some aircraft it may never be possible to get the FDM rating high enough to get
more than a 2 or 3 simply because the data needed to do that is not available.
These aircraft will never be able to get beyond an "early production"
status unless the author finds a source for the needed information.