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#2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

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2019-08-07
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Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
FlightGear: Build Type Release
Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
Jenkins number/ID 589:589

and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

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  • Huntley Palmer

    Huntley Palmer - 2019-08-08

    Now that's a joystick.
    It looks like, from the fgfs code, jsMacOSX.cxx, that the usage type within HID page: Generic Desktop is repeatedly unrecognised.
    From this:

    useage value 0x00 is 'undefined' and 0xFFFF is 'reserved.

    From the X-Plane site the stick is staed compatible with XPlanw11, Here:

    It states compatibility with XPlane10 only after a firmware replacement.

    Do you suppose the joystick outputs and unusually complex HID report that XPlane has only recently accomodated ?

    Here is a link to the stick's configuartion guide:

    Is there any chance you can switch to a Windows machine in order to run the configuration and maybe ensure that all keyboard macros etc are disabled so that the joystick is configured as a very simple controller ? That may help identify what's going wrong on your Mac.

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-08-08

      Dear Huntley. Thank you foryour promt response.

      Not sure that I understood you correctly, because all links you posted do not visible in the post. Can you update your post with links included or just send me more detailed instruction?

      Am I right that you suggest me to try install this joystick in FG for Windows? i.e. I need to try use fgjs in Windows, right?

      Regards,
      Alexey

       
  • Huntley Palmer

    Huntley Palmer - 2019-08-08

    Huh sorry about that !
    Yes, I think from this site: https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gladiator
    you can download both the configuration utility and its user guide. Other sites I browsed seem to indicate that the configuration only runs on Windows. When I read the guide I saw that the joystick can perform many functions including sending keyboard strings upon button press. That means to me that, when the USB is connected, the joystick sends a set of reports ( descriptor tables) that are more complicated than a basic joystick.
    For you, I wondered if it is possible, using the Windows configuration utility, to disable all of the special features like keyboard macros so that at least you have a working, basic, joystick.
    For the flightgear developers I suspect it will be necessary to find the useage values that are presently not recognised in the code; either by debugging with the hardware or by finding Gladiators published interface.
    I think it would help if you can run the programs in Windows because that would isolate the Mac-Specific joystick code, or not.

    (English) Gladiator Downloads and User Guides: https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gladiator

    Site suggesting X-Plane only recently supports Galdiator/Mac:
    https://www.fspilotshop.com/gladiator-joystick-p-6679.html

    Pointer to kHIDUseage values for MACOs:
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6596228/osx-hid-list-of-possible-usage-pages-where-can-i-find-it-i-e-khidusage-gd-g

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-08-08

      Thank you Huntley!

      I will try to run Windows utilites nearest time and will post the results here. Hope it will help.

      For the flightgear developers I suspect it will be necessary to find the useage values that are presently not recognised in the code; either by debugging with the hardware or by finding Gladiators published interface.

      I can contact joystick developers directly in case of any needs, just let me know what need I to ask about)) My colleague will meet with DevLead next week, so, we have a chance to ask what we want.

      Hope to get back with the result soon.

       
  • Alexey Savkin

    Alexey Savkin - 2019-09-13

    Hi All.

    Unfortunately, attempt to configure/reconfigure joystick from Windows utility did not provide any answers. I cannot find any macros-related settings, and all buttons/axes works just fine in Windows, but applications crashes in MAcOS in a initialisation phase.(((

     
  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-01

    Thanks for the report, the crash is likely due to some complexiy in the device HID descriptor indeed. Note an unrecognized HID usage element produces a warning but does not crash, it's not quite so simple failure as that.

    The easiest way to debug is for me to have the hardware, because I already have a debug build. So one option is I buy the joystick on Amazon, debug the crash and send it back :)

    Another option is to get you a debug-enabled build of FlightGear - then you can reproduce the crash, but the crash reports will contain more useful information to investigate.

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-02

      Hi James.

      Thank you for the reply.

      I cannot buy you a joystick as I am in Russia, end the currency exchange rate is to high for us((

      But I definitely can install a debug version of FG on my macbook and collect all possible logs/debugs/dumps for you, just send me a link and instruction if it different from usual using/installation.

      Sincerely,

      Alexey Savkin


      Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68 (pref.)

      e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

      From: James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net
      Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Date: Tuesday, 1 October 2019 at 16:10
      To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      Thanks for the report, the crash is likely due to some complexiy in the device HID descriptor indeed. Note an unrecognized HID usage element produces a warning but does not crash, it's not quite so simple failure as that.

      The easiest way to debug is for me to have the hardware, because I already have a debug build. So one option is I buy the joystick on Amazon, debug the crash and send it back :)

      Another option is to get you a debug-enabled build of FlightGear - then you can reproduce the crash, but the crash reports will contain more useful information to investigate.

      [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      Status: New
      Milestone: 2018.3.0
      Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
      Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
      Last Updated: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:25 AM UTC
      Owner: nobody
      Attachments:
      console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
      fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

      I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

      FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
      FlightGear: Build Type Release
      Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
      Jenkins number/ID 589:589

      and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

      When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

      Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

      I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

      Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

      Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

      Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

      To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/

       

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      • James Turner

        James Turner - 2019-10-02

        On 2 Oct 2019, at 09:36, Alexey Savkin alexey256@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

        Hi James.

        Thank you for the reply.

        I cannot buy you a joystick as I am in Russia, end the currency exchange rate is to high for us((

        But I definitely can install a debug version of FG on my macbook and collect all possible logs/debugs/dumps for you, just send me a link and instruction if it different from usual using/installation.

        Sincerely,

        Alexey Savkin

        Hi Alexey - I am sorry, I did not mean for you to buy it for me. I was meaning, I could buy it myself (with my own money), test the crash, and then send the item back to Amazon.

        But, I agree it’s simpler to send you a debug build. I am travelling for work this week, so if you don’t mind, I will need to wait until the weekend to get you such a debug build.

        Kind regards,
        James

         
        • Alexey Savkin

          Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-02

          Hi James.

          I didn’t know there is an option “to-buy-and-return” back to Amazon))))

          OK, sure, send me a link to debug build next week or when possible: I will test it and return (😊) to you with the results.

          Have a nice trip.

          Sincerely,

          Alexey Savkin


          Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68 (pref.)

          e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

          From: James Turner james@flightgear.org
          Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 at 11:19
          To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
          Cc: alexey.savkin@gmail.com
          Subject: Re: [flightgear:codetickets] Re: #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

          On 2 Oct 2019, at 09:36, Alexey Savkin alexey256@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

          Hi James.

          Thank you for the reply.

          I cannot buy you a joystick as I am in Russia, end the currency exchange rate is to high for us((

          But I definitely can install a debug version of FG on my macbook and collect all possible logs/debugs/dumps for you, just send me a link and instruction if it different from usual using/installation.

          Sincerely,

          Alexey Savkin

          Hi Alexey - I am sorry, I did not mean for you to buy it for me. I was meaning, I could buy it myself (with my own money), test the crash, and then send the item back to Amazon.

          But, I agree it’s simpler to send you a debug build. I am travelling for work this week, so if you don’t mind, I will need to wait until the weekend to get you such a debug build.

          Kind regards,

          James

           
          • Alexey Savkin

            Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-07

            Hi James.

            Just a very small reminder about the link to FlightGear Debug build for MacOS.

            Thank you and have a nice day!

            Sincerely,

            Alexey Savkin


            Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68 (pref.)

            e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

            From: Alexey Savkin alexey256@users.sourceforge.net
            Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
            Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 at 17:02
            To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
            Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] Re: #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

            Hi James.

            I didn’t know there is an option “to-buy-and-return” back to Amazon))))

            OK, sure, send me a link to debug build next week or when possible: I will test it and return (😊) to you with the results.

            Have a nice trip.

            Sincerely,

            Alexey Savkin

            Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68 (pref.)

            e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

            From: James Turner james@flightgear.org
            Date: Wednesday, 2 October 2019 at 11:19
            To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
            Cc: alexey.savkin@gmail.com
            Subject: Re: [flightgear:codetickets] Re: #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

            On 2 Oct 2019, at 09:36, Alexey Savkin alexey256@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

            Hi James.

            Thank you for the reply.

            I cannot buy you a joystick as I am in Russia, end the currency exchange rate is to high for us((

            But I definitely can install a debug version of FG on my macbook and collect all possible logs/debugs/dumps for you, just send me a link and instruction if it different from usual using/installation.

            Sincerely,

            Alexey Savkin

            Hi Alexey - I am sorry, I did not mean for you to buy it for me. I was meaning, I could buy it myself (with my own money), test the crash, and then send the item back to Amazon.

            But, I agree it’s simpler to send you a debug build. I am travelling for work this week, so if you don’t mind, I will need to wait until the weekend to get you such a debug build.

            Kind regards,

            James

            [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

            Status: New
            Milestone: 2018.3.0
            Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
            Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
            Last Updated: Tue Oct 01, 2019 01:10 PM UTC
            Owner: nobody
            Attachments:
            console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
            fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
            fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
            fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
            fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
            fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
            Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

            I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

            FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
            FlightGear: Build Type Release
            Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
            Jenkins number/ID 589:589

            and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

            When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

            Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

            I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

            Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

            Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

            Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

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  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-07

    DOwnload the debug build of 2019.1.2 here:

    http://files.goneabitbursar.com/fg/FlightGear-2019.1.2-nightly.dmg

    You will need to download FGData seperately, eg from Git on Sourceforge. Note the binary above is not code-signed, you may need to right click in Finder to open the app.

    Then reproduce the crash and attach the new crash logs here, thanks.

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-07

      It is strange, but cannot send update by email, even sending not an archive but all files separatelly. So, trying to attach directly to the case.

       
  • Alexey Savkin

    Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-07

    Hi James.

    Please find a new portion of crash files with the logs and console output (attached).

    Sincerely,

    Alexey Savkin


    Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68 (pref.)

    e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

    From: James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net
    Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
    Date: Monday, 7 October 2019 at 19:15
    To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
    Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

    DOwnload the debug build of 2019.1.2 here:

    http://files.goneabitbursar.com/fg/FlightGear-2019.1.2-nightly.dmg

    You will need to download FGData seperately, eg from Git on Sourceforge. Note the binary above is not code-signed, you may need to right click in Finder to open the app.

    Then reproduce the crash and attach the new crash logs here, thanks.

    [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

    Status: New
    Milestone: 2018.3.0
    Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
    Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
    Last Updated: Tue Oct 01, 2019 01:10 PM UTC
    Owner: nobody
    Attachments:
    console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
    fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
    fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
    fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
    fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
    fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
    Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

    I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

    FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
    FlightGear: Build Type Release
    Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
    Jenkins number/ID 589:589

    and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

    When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

    Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

    I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

    Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

    Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

    Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

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  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-08

    Hmm, this is still looking weird - can you repeat the fgfs crash once more, but passing --log-level=debug ? (The fgfs.log file will be much bigger...)

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-08

      It is strange, but all outputs are with this option already. You can check it from console log file.

      Anyway, let me one-two ours and I will collect logs and crashes ones again exactly with debug option.

      Sincerely,
      Alexey Savkin


      Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68
      e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

      8 окт. 2019 г., в 10:08, James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net написал(а):

      
      Hmm, this is still looking weird - can you repeat the fgfs crash once more, but passing --log-level=debug ? (The fgfs.log file will be much bigger...)

      [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      Status: New
      Milestone: 2018.3.0
      Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
      Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
      Last Updated: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:19 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody
      Attachments:

      console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
      fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

      I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

      FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
      FlightGear: Build Type Release
      Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
      Jenkins number/ID 589:589

      and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

      When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

      Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

      I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

      Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

      Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

      Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

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  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-08

    That's strange indeed - since there are some important messages I'm not seeing in the log, which would identify where it crashes.

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-08

      I will collect it again, give me the time. Just take a look on the start command (in console.log) and confirm that it is OK for us, please.

      Sincerely,
      Alexey Savkin


      Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68
      e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

      8 окт. 2019 г., в 11:16, James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net написал(а):

      
      That's strange indeed - since there are some important messages I'm not seeing in the log, which would identify where it crashes.

      [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      Status: New
      Milestone: 2018.3.0
      Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
      Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
      Last Updated: Tue Oct 08, 2019 07:08 AM UTC
      Owner: nobody
      Attachments:

      console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
      fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

      I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

      FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
      FlightGear: Build Type Release
      Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
      Jenkins number/ID 589:589

      and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

      When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

      Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

      I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

      Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

      Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

      Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

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  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-08

    Ah one thing to try: can you add the options:

    --prop:/sim/input/no-hid-input=true
    --prop:/sim/input/no-event-input=true

    And see if the crash is gone? And if it does avoid the crash, try first one and then the other alone.

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-08

      Dear James.

      I have collected four sets of crash/log/console: with all options, then just debug+no-hid-input, then debug+no-event-input, and finally just debug. For the first look at console output, the option "debug+no-hid-input" has a difference in the end of file...

      Thank you.

      Regards,
      Alexey

       
  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-08

    So I understand : all four options still crash?

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-08

      Yes, correct!!

      e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

      From: James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net
      Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Date: Tuesday, 8 October 2019 at 15:42
      To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      So I understand : all four options still crash?

      [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      Status: New
      Milestone: 2018.3.0
      Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
      Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
      Last Updated: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:16 AM UTC
      Owner: nobody
      Attachments:
      console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
      fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

      I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

      FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
      FlightGear: Build Type Release
      Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
      Jenkins number/ID 589:589

      and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

      When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

      Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

      I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

      Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

      Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

      Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

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      • Alexey Savkin

        Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-08

        James, I think we can have an option to share my desktop to you, so you can make online realtime troubleshooting on my mac. I have a possibility to make a shared workplace (Cisco WEBEX if you know) and we can have a meeting for this.

        From: Alexey Savkin alexey256@users.sourceforge.net
        Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
        Date: Tuesday, 8 October 2019 at 16:03
        To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
        Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] Re: #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

        Yes, correct!!

        e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

        From: James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net
        Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
        Date: Tuesday, 8 October 2019 at 15:42
        To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
        Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

        So I understand : all four options still crash?

        [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

        Status: New
        Milestone: 2018.3.0
        Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
        Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
        Last Updated: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:16 AM UTC
        Owner: nobody
        Attachments:
        console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
        fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
        fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
        fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
        fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
        fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
        Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

        I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

        FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
        FlightGear: Build Type Release
        Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
        Jenkins number/ID 589:589

        and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

        When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

        Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

        I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

        Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

        Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

        Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

        To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/

        [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

        Status: New
        Milestone: 2018.3.0
        Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
        Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
        Last Updated: Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:42 PM UTC
        Owner: nobody
        Attachments:
        console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
        fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
        fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
        fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
        fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
        fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
        Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

        I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

        FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
        FlightGear: Build Type Release
        Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
        Jenkins number/ID 589:589

        and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

        When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

        Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

        I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

        Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

        Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

        Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

        To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/

         

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  • James Turner

    James Turner - 2019-10-08

    We can try such a sesion (better I use Zoom.us, WebEx is not good for me) - but I'm travelling from early tomorrow morning until Sunday evening. So probably Monday next week is a time for this.

     
    • Alexey Savkin

      Alexey Savkin - 2019-10-08

      Hi James.

      What is your location or timezone?

      My timezone is MSK (GMT +3), but exactly from next Monday I have a trip to Poland during next two weeks (i.e. I will available but the joystick will stay home). So, if you have possibility to troubleshoot it on this week – it is good, else we can continue only after 25th of October. Not sure I can bring it with me, it is not so small.

      Sincerely,

      Alexey Savkin


      Mobile: +7 918 336 21 68 (pref.)

      e-mail: alexey.savkin@gmail.com

      From: James Turner jmturner@users.sourceforge.net
      Reply to: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Date: Tuesday, 8 October 2019 at 20:28
      To: "[flightgear:codetickets]" 2137@codetickets.flightgear.p.re.sourceforge.net
      Subject: [flightgear:codetickets] #2137 FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      We can try such a sesion (better I use Zoom.us, WebEx is not good for me) - but I'm travelling from early tomorrow morning until Sunday evening. So probably Monday next week is a time for this.

      [codetickets:#2137] FG has crashed with Joystick connected ( MacOS, Gladiator MKII)

      Status: New
      Milestone: 2018.3.0
      Labels: Joystick Crash Mac Mojave Macbook
      Created: Wed Aug 07, 2019 09:48 PM UTC by Alexey Savkin
      Last Updated: Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:42 PM UTC
      Owner: nobody
      Attachments:
      console_log.txt (119.4 kB; text/plain)
      fgfs.log (27.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_0.log (0 Bytes; application/octet-stream)
      fgfs_2019-08-08-002601_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (61.8 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002525_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      fgjs_2019-08-08-002533_ASAVKIN-M-G24G.crash (47.0 kB; application/octet-stream)
      Dear FG Experts/developer/ALL

      I am using MacOS version (on Mojave 10.14.6 (18G87)):

      FlightGear: Version 2018.3.2
      FlightGear: Build Type Release
      Built with GNU C++ version 4.2
      Jenkins number/ID 589:589

      and have experience a problem while starting FG with my new Joystick "Gladiator MKII" (http://vkb-sim.pro/project/gladiator-mk2/).

      When joystick is connected to laptop, both fgfs and fgjs have crashed constantly. It is 100% reproducible on two Macbooks, even on freshly installed system. I have tried to start FG with disabling all options as recommended in troubleshooting guide (with UFO and etc..) - results are the same.

      Joystick is absolutely normal works in x-plane, but in Flightgear - not.

      I have direct contact with Joystick developers, and can connect/meet their with FG developer team.

      Also, I have possibility to troubleshoot this issue on my Macbook Pro in a freshly installed MacOS empty system. I will glad to provide any additional necessary information regaring this ticket, just tell me or send instruction. Or even create online troubleshooting session on my mac.

      Will try to attach logs/crash files and console logs here.

      Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in https://sourceforge.net/p/flightgear/codetickets/2137/

      To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/

       

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      • James Turner

        James Turner - 2019-10-09

        On 8 Oct 2019, at 19:06, Alexey Savkin alexey256@users.sourceforge.net wrote:

        My timezone is MSK (GMT +3), but exactly from next Monday I have a trip to Poland during next two weeks (i.e. I will available but the joystick will stay home). So, if you have possibility to troubleshoot it on this week – it is good, else we can continue only after 25th of October. Not sure I can bring it with me, it is not so small.

        Probably, we have to wait until after the 25th, since this weeks is quite busy.

        I’m in the UK, so BST / GMT.

        Kind regards,
        James

         
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