Hi i am using the current client 0.9 and am connecting to an 1.2-pre1 firefly server on a dlink 313
While connecting and layback works fine, i can only create empty playlists called Playlist 1 ect, but can not rename, fill with musik or delete them again, so that i am now left with 50 empty playlist i can not delete either from the firefly webpage nor the firefly client
any suggestion?
I tried deleting as well from linux as well as windows
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1- Once the library is loaded in Firefly Client, what is written in the window title bar ? (this can help, cause I make some discrimination with playlist functions based on the version number, so if it isn't well parsed, some can be broken.)
2- Eventually, can you open me an (temporary) access to your server ? you can write me at vcariven (@ ] users.sourceforge.net so that I can investigate further (I'll make no bad use of it) ?
--caribou
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I don't know why this happens. But can you tell me what you do to delete/rename playlists ?
To have a deeper diagnosis, let me explain how playlists requests work. You can play the following requests in your preferred browser and see what it does :
Using the two links you provided i was able to delete all the empty playlists i created with the firefly client and could not delete using the smart playlists editor under http://localhost:9999/smart.html.
But what I still do not understand is how i can add or remove songs to the playlists from the firefly client (FC).
While it offers File->New Playlist and creates an empty playlist on the server.
I found no possibility to add any files to this playlist from inside the FC or to delete it from inside FC or even rename the playlist
Am I simply missing the obvious solution on how to manage playlists or is it not implemented?
Kind regards
Ross
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If you were able to delete playlists you created with the links I provided, you should be able to delete them with the Firefly Client interface : right-click on a playlist you created, then click "delete".
I don't know why smart.html does not work but it's out of my skills (maybe a buggy version of the page ?)
Here is the way playlist management should work:
This should work for static playlist created by Firefly Client, not for smart playlists, itunes playlist and m3u playlist which are read-only. Smart playlist are not really read-only but Firefly Client does not implement a Smart Playlist editor. The only thing you can do about smart playlist in Firefly Client is to delete them. To create new smart playlists, the only way is to do this with smart.html page !
1- Create a new static playlist with File->New Playlist
2- Give it a name
3- You can rename it at any time by right-clicking->Rename (or left-clicking once selected)
4- Browse your library
5- Select one or several songs from the song list
6- Drag the selected song(s) from the songlist on the playlist item in the left panel (a border should appear around the playlist name) : those songs should be added to the playlist
7- Browse the playlist to check if songs have been added
8- You can remove songs by selecting them in the playlist and either hit de "delete" key or right-clicking->Delete
9- You can delete the whole playlist by right-clicking on the playlist -> Delete
Try this and tell me if this works
--caribou
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Nothing happens when i rightclick :-) so i can not reach the popup menu to manage the playlist. When i try to drag a file to the playlist i do not get the border you described but rather the mouse icon changes to the crossed circle, so it is not possible to drop files to the playlist.
Right click on a song also gives me no menu
This behaviour is consistent on two computers one running on the current Ubuntu Linux the other one running windows xp with sun java 6 11.
I even tried the 0.8 version under Ubuntu, same problem
The server is running 1.2-pre1
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I think it migh come from your server (1.2pre1) which appear to be an old version of the server. Indeed, playlists functions have been buggy for a long time serverside which could explain that no right-click menu appear. They only appear if server side informations retrieved match some precise criteria.
Is is possible for you to upgrade your server version ?
I don't know much about your device (dlink 313) but there should be a better version. I never really understood the server versioning system : some version number are in the form of 1.2pre, 0.2.0, 0.2.1, 0.2.4... and other are like svn-1586, svn-1696,... I don't know the matching between them but I can assure that version from svn-1586 (which is known as the best stable release) have a good playlists implementation.
Browsing the web led me to a page that could interest you. Here is an extract :
[...] But i decide to do it trought the APT mode, easy for all of you who don´t know how to compile in debian.
So i search at the debian packages in the SID unstable version. Yes i know, i never recommend to install package from an unstable
repository, but in that case all the package that you could modify only affect to the Firefly server. So, i do it.
Yo can found the package and his dependencies at http://packages.debian.org/sid/mt-daapd. After "wget"ting
The version I am using is the most current I could find
It internally reports as the 1.2pre1 but the installer names it as mt-daapd-svn-1735-1.tgz.
The NAS came perinstalled with the old 0.24 version, which somehow turned out to be very but ans kept segmenting on me, because of "Umlauts"in my German song titles (AFAIK).
So i upgraded to the most recent version I could find for the funpack arm environment ( while the version you mentioned works via chrotting to a debian install)
I also installed Firefly on my Linux machine. I installed the normal Ubuntu package from Universe repository. It reports as svn-1696.
But the problem stays the same. No richt klick is possible.
Thanks for your time.
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Hi i am using the current client 0.9 and am connecting to an 1.2-pre1 firefly server on a dlink 313
While connecting and layback works fine, i can only create empty playlists called Playlist 1 ect, but can not rename, fill with musik or delete them again, so that i am now left with 50 empty playlist i can not delete either from the firefly webpage nor the firefly client
any suggestion?
I tried deleting as well from linux as well as windows
Hi,
There is two last things I can do for you :
1- Once the library is loaded in Firefly Client, what is written in the window title bar ? (this can help, cause I make some discrimination with playlist functions based on the version number, so if it isn't well parsed, some can be broken.)
2- Eventually, can you open me an (temporary) access to your server ? you can write me at vcariven (@ ] users.sourceforge.net so that I can investigate further (I'll make no bad use of it) ?
--caribou
Hi Bob,
I don't know why this happens. But can you tell me what you do to delete/rename playlists ?
To have a deeper diagnosis, let me explain how playlists requests work. You can play the following requests in your preferred browser and see what it does :
-- replace localhost:9999 by your server and host
List all playlists :
http://localhost:9999/databases/1/containers?output=xml&meta=dmap.itemid,dmap.itemname,org.mt-daapd.playlist-type,org.mt-daapd.smart-playlist-spec
Delete a given playlist (choose the dmap.itemid from the response you got from the previous request) :
http://localhost:9999/databases/1/containers/del?output=xml&dmap.itemid=XXX
Hope this will help...
--caribou
Hi Caribou
Thank you for the promt and very helpful answer.
Using the two links you provided i was able to delete all the empty playlists i created with the firefly client and could not delete using the smart playlists editor under http://localhost:9999/smart.html.
But what I still do not understand is how i can add or remove songs to the playlists from the firefly client (FC).
While it offers File->New Playlist and creates an empty playlist on the server.
I found no possibility to add any files to this playlist from inside the FC or to delete it from inside FC or even rename the playlist
Am I simply missing the obvious solution on how to manage playlists or is it not implemented?
Kind regards
Ross
Sorry for the double post firefox crashed when i opened the applet version of firefly client and i thought the post was lost so reposted
Hi,
If you were able to delete playlists you created with the links I provided, you should be able to delete them with the Firefly Client interface : right-click on a playlist you created, then click "delete".
I don't know why smart.html does not work but it's out of my skills (maybe a buggy version of the page ?)
Here is the way playlist management should work:
This should work for static playlist created by Firefly Client, not for smart playlists, itunes playlist and m3u playlist which are read-only. Smart playlist are not really read-only but Firefly Client does not implement a Smart Playlist editor. The only thing you can do about smart playlist in Firefly Client is to delete them. To create new smart playlists, the only way is to do this with smart.html page !
1- Create a new static playlist with File->New Playlist
2- Give it a name
3- You can rename it at any time by right-clicking->Rename (or left-clicking once selected)
4- Browse your library
5- Select one or several songs from the song list
6- Drag the selected song(s) from the songlist on the playlist item in the left panel (a border should appear around the playlist name) : those songs should be added to the playlist
7- Browse the playlist to check if songs have been added
8- You can remove songs by selecting them in the playlist and either hit de "delete" key or right-clicking->Delete
9- You can delete the whole playlist by right-clicking on the playlist -> Delete
Try this and tell me if this works
--caribou
Hi Caribou
samt thing even with the old version 0.6
Hi Caribou
Well now we found the core of the problem :-)
Nothing happens when i rightclick :-) so i can not reach the popup menu to manage the playlist. When i try to drag a file to the playlist i do not get the border you described but rather the mouse icon changes to the crossed circle, so it is not possible to drop files to the playlist.
Right click on a song also gives me no menu
This behaviour is consistent on two computers one running on the current Ubuntu Linux the other one running windows xp with sun java 6 11.
I even tried the 0.8 version under Ubuntu, same problem
The server is running 1.2-pre1
Ok,
I think it migh come from your server (1.2pre1) which appear to be an old version of the server. Indeed, playlists functions have been buggy for a long time serverside which could explain that no right-click menu appear. They only appear if server side informations retrieved match some precise criteria.
Is is possible for you to upgrade your server version ?
I don't know much about your device (dlink 313) but there should be a better version. I never really understood the server versioning system : some version number are in the form of 1.2pre, 0.2.0, 0.2.1, 0.2.4... and other are like svn-1586, svn-1696,... I don't know the matching between them but I can assure that version from svn-1586 (which is known as the best stable release) have a good playlists implementation.
Browsing the web led me to a page that could interest you. Here is an extract :
[...] But i decide to do it trought the APT mode, easy for all of you who don´t know how to compile in debian.
So i search at the debian packages in the SID unstable version. Yes i know, i never recommend to install package from an unstable
repository, but in that case all the package that you could modify only affect to the Firefly server. So, i do it.
Yo can found the package and his dependencies at http://packages.debian.org/sid/mt-daapd. After "wget"ting
libavcodec51_0.svn20080206-11_arm.deb libflac8_1.2.1-1.2_arm.deb
libavformat52_0.svn20080206-11_arm.deb libtheora0_1.0~beta3-1_arm.deb
libavutil49_0.svn20080206-11_arm.deb mt-daapd_0.9~r1696-1.3+b1_arm.deb
libfaad0_2.6.1-3_arm.deb
It works like a charm, and much better than the dlink 0.2.4 version. You can access it on http://DNS313:3689
Hope this will help,
--caribou
Hi Caribou
The version I am using is the most current I could find
It internally reports as the 1.2pre1 but the installer names it as mt-daapd-svn-1735-1.tgz.
The NAS came perinstalled with the old 0.24 version, which somehow turned out to be very but ans kept segmenting on me, because of "Umlauts"in my German song titles (AFAIK).
So i upgraded to the most recent version I could find for the funpack arm environment ( while the version you mentioned works via chrotting to a debian install)
I also installed Firefly on my Linux machine. I installed the normal Ubuntu package from Universe repository. It reports as svn-1696.
But the problem stays the same. No richt klick is possible.
Thanks for your time.