Re: [Firebird-website] [Firebird-general] Re: Fb Website

[tjelvar e. <tj...@fa...>]

Giovanni, Thank you for your support,
Helen barked at me some years ago at yahoo, just by asking, so I was  
neither surprised nor intimdated, ;-)

I agree with you completly regarding the visual differences, there is  
much that can be done.
The sitemaintainers admits that they're not proffessional designers  
and there's nothing wrong
with that. What matters is if we can work forward together or we're  
just hitting the fence.

I'm pondering if a new "site/promition-group" should be initiated here  
and now, with a resulting draft / white-paper
to the foundation for consideration, on the other hand, maby the  
foundation should first create a plan or at
least an open topic / request for how to increase market share and  
public acknowledge, it goes in line with
http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php?op=ffoundation

"To encourage cooperation and affiliation with individuals,
other non-profit organisations and commercial companies involved in,
or planning to become involved in the development, support and promotion
of Firebird software projects and associated products and activities."

Regarding the flatfile/ database - debate, it's perhaps irrelevant at  
current stage, however, if a drupal-powered
homepage can create "increased market share and public acknowledge",  
this should be taken into account.

All the best,
/tjelvar


19 nov 2009 kl. 16.57 skrev Giovanni Premuda:

> Helen Borrie wrote:
>> Talk is cheap.
> ...
>> Not as complex as you (and other talkers-not-doers) seem to want  
>> them to be.
>>
> ...
>> "Analysis first" is a principle most of us should be familiar with.
>>
> ...
>>
>> Work out something intelligent to define what you think  
>> "known" (and "unknown") mean, what is good or bad about both and  
>> what you could do to improve the situation.
>>
> ...
>> OK - start by defining this "community" - especially the ways that  
>> people (including yourself) make it "a community" and earn the  
>> right to "heard and invited".  Try to define just *who* has the  
>> duty and obligation that you imply in these assertions of yours  
>> that always invoke "should" and *why* such people have these  
>> obligations
>>
> ...
>> If you were in any way involved in the community of Firebird  
>> workers (which we know you are not) you would not need to ask that  
>> question.
> ...
>> Think about that sometimes, when you troll in our lists.
>>
>> If you have talents that could be contributed to the cause of  
>> improving Firebird's web presence AND you are willing to contribute  
>> them, then list them out.  That's a good starting place for  
>> *everyone* here who desires the improvement of our web presence and  
>> wants to participate in progressing it.
>>
> Are you sure this is thw way to  make newcomers feel welcome and to
> encourage new contributions?
>
> -- 
> Giovanni
>
>
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