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Re: [Firebird-website] Redesign of our website - feature requests in tracker
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From: marius p. <ma...@gm...> - 2008-10-01 10:05:10
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On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Helen Borrie <he...@ii...> wrote: > At 07:28 1/10/2008, you wrote: >>On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Helen Borrie <he...@ii...> wrote: >>> At 02:34 1/10/2008, Roman Rokytskyy wrote: >>> >>>>Herewith I, as Committee member, ask whether you, Firebird Project Web >>>>Team, accept the idea of placing all feature requests into our tracker >>>>in the "Web site" Project (Key: WEB)? >>> >>> Excellent idea. >>Ok so i guess i should send here the designer ? >>Or who will he talk with directly ? > > Marius, > > Some people have been jumping the gun around this topic so it will be helpful to explain to non-members of the FF what the background is... > > Earlier in the year, in the FFMembers forum, Martijn Tonies came up with the idea that the website needed redesigning professionally. He put forward the idea of collecting money to pay someone to do it. Some other FF members supported the idea of a fund-raising campaign to get some money in hand to pay for it. > > It is not a FF project. The committee simply agreed to accept money on behalf of whatever group would become "the web redevelopment group", let's refer to it as WRG to save typing. Martijn stated his intention to "take it public" once a "WRG" was formed. > > Here is the text of Martijn's original suggestion: > > ============= > Every now and again the Firebird website topic is being brought forward again. Despite all the good work put into it, we know that the people behind it are not graphical or website designers. > > The general consensus in Firebird Project Admin group and the Firebird Foundation, is that the money currently on the Foundation account should be used for the development, testing processes, etc of the Firebird engine and Firebird drivers. I agree. > > However, to move the Firebird website forward, I would like to propose...that we chip in money for a fund to commission a professional web redevelopment project. With the money gathered AND the agreement of the Project Admins, I would like to start to formulate a "project description" that includes designing a new look for the website and a way to implement it by trying to use one of the well-known portal systems in PHP, preferably one that supports Firebird (are there any?) > > With this project description, I would post an item to "rent-a-coder" or similar website to see if there are any takers. From the takers, we would select one and go forward. > ===================== > > Various FF members sent money to get the thing started. At the moment the FF is holding around $1650 - $1700 USD on behalf of these donors. It is in a variety of currencies - hence the imprecision. > > Martijn asked for advice on how to proceed. Remember, this isn't a FF project so it's not FF business. The Firebird *Project* owns the website, not the Foundation, and maintaining the website is not in the objectives of the FF. > > However, at Martijn's request for recommendations on how to proceed with forming a project and publicising it, the committee discussed it at its June meeting and sent some recommendations to him. It was suggested that a project in the Tracker be used to centralise the wish-list and to conduct the project generally. Martijn has not responded to that message so far. > > The committee at its latest meeting (started end of August, still going on) set out to get some resolution of this initiative - hence Roman's message initially to this list. > > In reality, the list members here are mostly just lurkers and tyre-kickers. Other than Paul Vinkenoog, Jiri Cincura and myself, and occasionally Dmitry Yemanov, nobody bothers with the actual task of contributing content for the website. Pavel Cisar is officially the webmaster, although his involvement since 2005 has been limited to keeping the webserver running. > > To put it bluntly, our web presence is fairly pathetic. The things that change regularly are knowledgebase (documentation), project news and downloads and, irregularly, the Foundation pages. Once in a blue moon, Dmitry publishes a roadmap somewhere and I try to get it onto the site. The developers' blog has not been updated since April, meaning that interesting development stuff remains buried in the firebird-devel and firebird-architect archives. External sites vie with one another to be first with any Firebird-related news and totally neglect our own website. > > Marius, the present burst of life is not a response to your company's expression of interest in various email forums - which is welcome. It's an attempt by the committee to get someone to take responsibility for the "WRG" initiative. The committee wants to raise it with the FF members who pumped in the money, and get them to say what they want to do next. > > Roman's question was a precursor to that - formally, do active website developers object to the WEB Tracker project being used to centralise the WRG initiative? That means we want answers from Paul Vinkenoog, Pavel, Jiri, Dmitry and me. > > So, let's do what it takes to put some order into all of it - both WRG and the Marius Popa initiative - so that a properly coordinated and publicised PROJECT comes into existence and can move forward in a properly coordinated fashion. > > If your developer wants to join this list, he is more than welcome. Assuming the WRG initiative wakes up and moves forward and nobody here objects to using the Tracker project for developing requirements, the Firebird Project should be able to reach the position where it can accept or decline your company's fortuitous offer to help out. > > Just let's minimise the confusion!! Ok i told him to join the web-devel-team and to ask here if he wants some directions and is better if he will get an web-site manager to coordinate him , or at least it should be appointed one . Also i think we don't need to go to an cms route we can handle and modify the code that exists now to an modern framework like cakephp with html code separated so the design can be translated easily to it also for blogging we could use something like wordpress or there are another options But this is another thread and i will make some proposals on both firebird-general and firebird-website > > Helen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Firebird-website mailing list > Fir...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/firebird-website > -- developer flamerobin.org |
