firebird-website

[Firebird-website] about the new web site

[Philippe M. <mak...@fi...>]

Hi,

First thanks to all for this good work


I have now two questions :

- How can we publish snapshots builds ?
- On the old web site, developers can have a "rabbit hole" so they can
publish drafts or others thinks they want (for example I publish on my
rabbit hole results of QA test run)
how can we have the same possibility ?
I mean just a place to put files via ftp or ssh ?

May be one solution is to keep the old web server for that and snapshots
builds ?
with just a front page with links to svn, snapshots, rabbit holes, main
web site

and give it a new name like dev.firebirdsql.org ?

Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[Helen B. <he...@ii...>]

At 09:48 PM 5/06/2011, Philippe wrote:
>Hi,
>
>First thanks to all for this good work
>
>
>I have now two questions :
>
>- How can we publish snapshots builds ?
>- On the old web site, developers can have a "rabbit hole" so they can
>publish drafts or others thinks they want (for example I publish on my
>rabbit hole results of QA test run)
>how can we have the same possibility ?
>I mean just a place to put files via ftp or ssh ?
>
>May be one solution is to keep the old web server for that and snapshots
>builds ?
>with just a front page with links to svn, snapshots, rabbit holes, main
>web site
>
>and give it a new name like dev.firebirdsql.org ?

FYI, the "old" website (actually, CURRENT, since the "new" one is two months out of date) is still accessible via http://web.firebirdsql.org.  For the present at least it is the only place where people can find the full and correct links to all the lists, the download pages, the driver pages and the up-to-date FF membership and sponsorship details.  I think Sergey needs to find a way to let visitors to the new site know that the old site is still available and has the up-to-date content.

We have a 2.5 point release coming up, with no clarity about how the Download page will be available, either.

Helen

Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[Alexey K. <ak...@ib...>]

  Helen,

 >FYI, the "old" website (actually, CURRENT, since the "new" one is two 
months out of date) is still accessible via http://web.firebirdsql.org. 
For the present at least it is the only
 >place where people can find the full and correct links to all the 
lists, the download pages, the driver pages and the up-to-date FF 
membership and sponsorship details. I think
 >Sergey needs to find a way to let visitors to the new site know that 
the old site is still available and has the up-to-date content.

Please provide us with list of links to pages you refer as outdated.

 >We have a 2.5 point release coming up, with no clarity about how the 
Download page will be available, either.

During migration Olga Popcova created all pages at Downloads, including 
recent 2.1.4 minor release.
Send content to be updated to Olga with CC to me and everything will be 
done.

Regards,
Alexey Kovyazin


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Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[Philippe M. <mak...@fi...>]

Helen Borrie  [05/06/2011 12:19] :
> FYI, the "old" website (actually, CURRENT, since the "new" one is two
> months out of date) is still accessible via
> http://web.firebirdsql.org.  
thanks Helen, for now it is enough for me

> I think Sergey needs to find a
> way to let visitors to the new site know that the old site is still
> available and has the up-to-date content.
yes and this way links to snapshots builds is solved
no need to push builds on another place than web.firebirdsql.org
(209.183.20.105)

that the easiest way to solve
http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/WEB-71
and it is the best way to do it
instead of http://www.firebirdsql.org/download/snapshot_builds/
just put http://web.firebirdsql.org/download/snapshot_builds/

Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[marius a. p. <ma...@gm...>]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Philippe Makowski
<mak...@fi...> wrote:
> Helen Borrie  [05/06/2011 12:19] :
>> FYI, the "old" website (actually, CURRENT, since the "new" one is two
>> months out of date) is still accessible via
>> http://web.firebirdsql.org.
> thanks Helen, for now it is enough for me
>
>> I think Sergey needs to find a
>> way to let visitors to the new site know that the old site is still
>> available and has the up-to-date content.
> yes and this way links to snapshots builds is solved
> no need to push builds on another place than web.firebirdsql.org
> (209.183.20.105)
>
> that the easiest way to solve
> http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/WEB-71
> and it is the best way to do it
> instead of http://www.firebirdsql.org/download/snapshot_builds/
> just put http://web.firebirdsql.org/download/snapshot_builds/

I agree also the python documentation should be kept on old web server
(i think it can be regenerated easily there)
http://www.firebirdsql.org/devel/python/docs/3.3.0/tutorial.html
should point to
http://web.firebirdsql.org/devel/python/docs/3.3.0/tutorial.html

Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Helen wrote:

> FYI, the "old" website (actually, CURRENT, since the "new" one is two months out of date)

If that is the case, wasn't the DNS change a bit premature?


Paul Vinkenoog

Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[marius a. p. <ma...@gm...>]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Paul Vinkenoog <pa...@vi...> wrote:
> Helen wrote:
>
>> FYI, the "old" website (actually, CURRENT, since the "new" one is two months out of date)
>
> If that is the case, wasn't the DNS change a bit premature?
Well i guess it's better that it happened (sooner than later) and we
have a lot of content to check , we all can submit bugs to the tracker
and i see they are fixed as we speak.

And i think we need access to the subsections as it was promised
Also if the docs are wrong i think the links should pont to the right
generated documents until they are fixed

Re: [Firebird-website] about the new web site

[Paul V. <pa...@vi...>]

Marius wrote:

> And i think we need access to the subsections as it was promised
> Also if the docs are wrong i think the links should pont to the right
> generated documents until they are fixed

That would work, were it not that the old docs contain links that are specific to the old site structure.

Pointing to the old docs would ensure that the content is correct and consistent, but would break those links.

Pointing to the newly-generated docs (as is done now) means the links are valid, but the content is not - at least in some essential manuals.

So it looks like we weren't ready to move yet. But... we'll fix it.


Paul Vinkenoog