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[Firebird-net-provider] Windows Phone 8

[André K. <Kna...@be...>]

I  google'd  and Bing'd through some index pages, but either my search
combination  was  too poor or there really is not a useful page to be found.

Here   goes:  Before  I  start  writing  apps for Windows Phone 8, can
anybody  confirm that I can use FB Embed and the .net provider or that
I can not use it?

No way for me writing apps based on other databases at the moment.

Thanks!
André


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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Windows Phone 8

[Michael L. <mi...@gm...>]

André Knappstein schrieb am 17.07.2013 um 17:31 (+0200):

> Before  I  start  writing  apps for Windows Phone 8, can anybody
> confirm that I can use FB Embed and the .net provider or that I can
> not use it?

Did some Google research on this question:

Apps offered on the App Store are restricted to WP8 SDK APIs, and they
are screened. You may not ship random native or other code on a WP8.
Ans AFAIK, WP8 does not ship fbembed.dll itself. :)

Firebird client or server code would probably have to be *ported* to
one of the WP8 APIs in order for you to use it there.

Porting Existing C++ Code to Windows 8/Windows Phone 8
http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/10/Porting-Cpp-WinRT

SQLite has been ported to WinRT and WP8, and/or is otherwise supported
by Microsoft.

Using SQLite in a Metro style app
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2012/05/20/using-sqlite-in-metro-style-app.aspx

Windows Phone 8 und SQLite | MSDN Online
http://www.microsoft.com/germany/msdn/aktuell/news/show.aspx?id=msdn_de_48779

It seems WP8 ships sqlite3.dll with appropriate wrappers to be called by
app code. Or maybe an app has to ship its own copy, I don't know.

SQLite-WinRT: Database programming on Windows Phone and Windows 8
Andy Wigley's Blog
http://andywigley.com/2013/06/06/sqlite-winrt-database-programming-on-windows-phone-and-windows-8/

An alternative to SQLite would be SQL Server CE.

Sql Server CE is the Database That WinPhone Uses by Default | Mobile Zone
http://mobile.dzone.com/articles/sql-server-ce-database

Michael

Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Windows Phone 8

[André K. <Kna...@be...>]

Thank you very much, Michael.
I  will  do some more research. I knew about SQL Server CE before, but
rather  would  stick  with Firebird. Maybe I will put it all off until
next year.

Right  now,  there  is  no  VPN  available for WP8. If that finally is
available,  our  new  WP-devices will start to be interesting for real
business  use,  and of course I'd like to provide my colleagues with a
mobile subset of our application.



> André Knappstein schrieb am 17.07.2013 um 17:31 (+0200):

>> Before  I  start  writing  apps for Windows Phone 8, can anybody
>> confirm that I can use FB Embed and the .net provider or that I can
>> not use it?

> Did some Google research on this question:

> Apps offered on the App Store are restricted to WP8 SDK APIs, and they
> are screened. You may not ship random native or other code on a WP8.
> Ans AFAIK, WP8 does not ship fbembed.dll itself. :)

> Firebird client or server code would probably have to be *ported* to
> one of the WP8 APIs in order for you to use it there.

> Porting Existing C++ Code to Windows 8/Windows Phone 8
> http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/10/Porting-Cpp-WinRT

> SQLite has been ported to WinRT and WP8, and/or is otherwise supported
> by Microsoft.

> Using SQLite in a Metro style app
> http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2012/05/20/using-sqlite-in-metro-style-app.aspx

> Windows Phone 8 und SQLite | MSDN Online
> http://www.microsoft.com/germany/msdn/aktuell/news/show.aspx?id=msdn_de_48779

> It seems WP8 ships sqlite3.dll with appropriate wrappers to be called by
> app code. Or maybe an app has to ship its own copy, I don't know.

> SQLite-WinRT: Database programming on Windows Phone and Windows 8
> Andy Wigley's Blog
> http://andywigley.com/2013/06/06/sqlite-winrt-database-programming-on-windows-phone-and-windows-8/

> An alternative to SQLite would be SQL Server CE.

> Sql Server CE is the Database That WinPhone Uses by Default | Mobile Zone
> http://mobile.dzone.com/articles/sql-server-ce-database

> Michael

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André Knappstein
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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Windows Phone 8

[Jiri C. <di...@ci...>]

I think the root is even deeper. WP does not contain ADO.NET stack at
all. You're not expected to connect to local database, rather use some
"data service" and connect via network (which makes sense today). Yes,
of course, you can always do your own ADO.NET clone and run some
database of your own. But you'd have to deal with tombstoning, suspend
states, ... to make it ACID. To just cache/store data locally you can
use Isolated Storage.

And of course, the Firebird itself doesn't run on WP - partly because
MS doesn't allow you native code and partly because it was not
compiled for this platform.


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Re: [Firebird-net-provider] Windows Phone 8

[André K. <Kna...@be...>]

Okay, thanks.
Means I am not even starting to deal with using VS to create WP8 apps.

I'll  continue like before; employees using a VPN to a Terminal server
to work with our data in some places, Webservices in other places.

As soon as MS provides VPN for WP8

> I think the root is even deeper. WP does not contain ADO.NET stack at
> all. You're not expected to connect to local database, rather use some
> "data service" and connect via network (which makes sense today). Yes,
> of course, you can always do your own ADO.NET clone and run some
> database of your own. But you'd have to deal with tombstoning, suspend
> states, ... to make it ACID. To just cache/store data locally you can
> use Isolated Storage.

> And of course, the Firebird itself doesn't run on WP - partly because
> MS doesn't allow you native code and partly because it was not
> compiled for this platform.


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mit freundlichen Grüßen,

André Knappstein
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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59192 Bergkamen-Rünthe

Telefon: +49 2389 9240 140
Telefax: +49 2389 9240 150
e-mail:  kna...@be...

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USt-IDNr.: DE 125215402