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[fetchmail-users] Problems with line-wrapping and Apple Mail users

From: Chris C. <ce...@cs...> - 2006-10-27 01:22:06

All my coworkers that send me URLs using Apple Mail have links
over 72 characters wrapped.  I have a feeling that the
Content-Type line is the problem, particularly the format=flowed
portion of the header.  Are there any options I can set in
fetchmail to prevent this from happening?  It appears as though
the source email, before I download it via fetchmail, is fine
when I use the web-based client.  The email they send is in
plain-text format.  The headers are below.  Any help is greatly
appreciated.  Thank you!

    Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2)
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    Message-Id: <EB8...@dr...>
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
    To: Chris Cera <te...@te...>
    From: Test Person <te...@te...>
    Subject: long link...
    Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:48:42 -0400
    X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2)
    X-Identified-User: {1262:box101.test.com:drakonta:drakontas.com} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 71.242.246.42 authed with drakontas.com}
    X-IMAPbase: 1161902931 1
    Status: RO
    X-Status:
    X-Keywords:
    X-UID: 1

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Problems with line-wrapping and Apple Mail users

From: Rob M. <rob...@gm...> - 2006-10-27 08:13:07

On 10/27/06, Chris Cera <ce...@cs...> wrote:
> All my coworkers that send me URLs using Apple Mail have links
> over 72 characters wrapped.  I have a feeling that the
> Content-Type line is the problem, particularly the format=flowed
> portion of the header.  Are there any options I can set in
> fetchmail to prevent this from happening?

No.  How your mail client treats the mail is beyond fetchmail's control.

I'd suggest you confirm that it's a bug with Apple Mail by pointing it
directly at your ISP and downloading a test email with a long URL.
This should give you enough to allow you to file a bug report with
Apple.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Problems with line-wrapping and Apple Mail users

From: Rob M. <rob...@gm...> - 2006-10-27 08:55:24

On 10/27/06, Rob MacGregor <rob...@gm...> wrote:
>
> No.  How your mail client treats the mail is beyond fetchmail's control.
>
> I'd suggest you confirm that it's a bug with Apple Mail by pointing it
> directly at your ISP and downloading a test email with a long URL.
> This should give you enough to allow you to file a bug report with
> Apple.

I should have said that the problem is that (it appears that) Apple
Mail isn't honouring format=flowed.  You'll almost certainly find that
the original email has the lines wrapped at 72 characters, hence why
Apple Mail displays the URLs wrapped at 72 characters.

You still can't fix this with fetchmail :)

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Problems with line-wrapping and Apple Mail users

From: Chris C. <ce...@cs...> - 2006-10-27 15:30:38

Thanks for the response Rob.

It appears this is not a fetchmail problem so I apologize for
posting to this forum.

It doesn't appear to be a problem with the client either since I
just confirmed that it does the same thing on another account
that I have (with postfix and no procmail, no fetchmail, etc.).
My mail client is basically just 'cat'ing /var/mail/chris.  

I can't explain why gmail has no problem with it though ... so I
will continue my search elsewhere.  Thank you!


* Rob MacGregor <rob...@gm...> [061027 02:54]:
> On 10/27/06, Rob MacGregor <rob...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > No.  How your mail client treats the mail is beyond fetchmail's control.
> >
> > I'd suggest you confirm that it's a bug with Apple Mail by pointing it
> > directly at your ISP and downloading a test email with a long URL.
> > This should give you enough to allow you to file a bug report with
> > Apple.
> 
> I should have said that the problem is that (it appears that) Apple
> Mail isn't honouring format=flowed.  You'll almost certainly find that
> the original email has the lines wrapped at 72 characters, hence why
> Apple Mail displays the URLs wrapped at 72 characters.
> 
> You still can't fix this with fetchmail :)
> 
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> Rob MacGregor
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>         doesn't become a monster.                  Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: [fetchmail-users] Problems with line-wrapping and Apple Mail users

From: Rob M. <rob...@gm...> - 2006-10-27 18:48:47

On 10/27/06, Chris Cera <ce...@cs...> wrote:
> Thanks for the response Rob.
>
> It appears this is not a fetchmail problem so I apologize for
> posting to this forum.

Sometimes it's hard to tell at first, no problem.

> It doesn't appear to be a problem with the client either since I
> just confirmed that it does the same thing on another account
> that I have (with postfix and no procmail, no fetchmail, etc.).
> My mail client is basically just 'cat'ing /var/mail/chris.
>
> I can't explain why gmail has no problem with it though ... so I
> will continue my search elsewhere.  Thank you!

I would say it's down to the support for format=flowed.  A very quick
explanation, take the following:

>One long wrapped
>line is here.
>
>And another long
>wrapped paragraph
>here.

With format=flowed and support in the mail client you'd see:

>One long wrapped line is here.
>
>And another long wrapped paragraph here.

With either a client that doesn't support it, or just text/plain you'd
see it as the first example.  Google will give you many more detailed
(and more accurate) explanations.

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