fetchmail-users

[fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Rouven S. <rs...@bl...>]

Hello List!

Are there any known issues that affect using fetchmail 6.2.5.2 to pop a
Merak Mail Server (7.4.5)? I am experiencing problems with fetchmail not
recognizing and fetching new messages on that mail server which other
MUA have no problem at all to see and fetch.

fetchmail (debian sarge binary) runs in daemon mode on my site, using
the following config:

set postmaster "postmaster"
set bouncemail
set properties ""

poll mail.domain.tld uidl with proto POP3
user "us...@do...d" there with password "password" is user here
options keep

Fetchmails "blindness" disappears when new messages hit that mailbox.

A successfull dialog looks as follows:

fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Capability list follows
fetchmail: POP3< TOP
fetchmail: POP3< USER
fetchmail: POP3< APOP
fetchmail: POP3< EXPIRE NEVER
fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< SASL CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> AUTH CRAM-MD5
fetchmail: POP3< + PDIwMDUxMDEwMTk0NzM5QG1haWwucm91dGluZy5uZXQ+
fetchmail: POP3>
YW5kcmVhcy5lZ25lckBsb2N6b25lLmRlIDYxMDBmY2MyMjZiNmVmMDM5YjIxYzRiNDNkNDhmYjk1
fetchmail: POP3< +OK 1 messages 10918 octets

I haven't logged a session that fails, yet, and i am hesitating to do so
since fetchmail outputs quite a lot in verbose mode and the errors
appear in unpredictable ways.

Thanks in advance,

Rouven Sacha

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 10/10/05, Rouven Sacha <rs...@bl...> wrote:
> Hello List!
>
> Are there any known issues that affect using fetchmail 6.2.5.2 to pop a
> Merak Mail Server (7.4.5)? I am experiencing problems with fetchmail not
> recognizing and fetching new messages on that mail server which other
> MUA have no problem at all to see and fetch.

If you are sharing the mailbox with other mail clients then you MUST
use UIDL support.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Rouven Sacha wrote:
> Are there any known issues that affect using fetchmail 6.2.5.2 to pop a
> Merak Mail Server (7.4.5)?

I've never even heard of Merak Mail Server myself....

> I am experiencing problems with fetchmail 
> not recognizing and fetching new messages on that mail server which
> other MUA have no problem at all to see and fetch.

Are you normally checking the mailbox with other clients also?
You could try the fetchall option, or the uidl option.  Read about those 
in the man page.

> I haven't logged a session that fails, yet, and i am hesitating to do
> so since fetchmail outputs quite a lot in verbose mode and the errors
> appear in unpredictable ways.

We can't see what's wrong from a successful log.  We can only see what's 
going wrong from an unsuccessful log.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Please keep list mail on the list.....

Rouven Sacha wrote:
> Am Montag, den 10.10.2005, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Rob Funk:
> > I've never even heard of Merak Mail Server myself....
>
> http://www.icewarp.com/
>
> > Are you normally checking the mailbox with other clients also?
> > You could try the fetchall option, or the uidl option.  Read about
> > those in the man page.
>
> I have to keep the messages on the server, due to the fact that other
> clients have to have access to these messages as well. And if i do
> understand things right, "fetchall" conflicts with "keep".
>
> The Debian manpage of fetchmail calls the UIDL code "flaky". Since the
> manpage seems to be outdated (it is pointing to esr's homepage, for
> example): is UIDL still flaky in 6.2.5.2?
>
> > We can't see what's wrong from a successful log.  We can only see
> > what's going wrong from an unsuccessful log.
>
> I'm running fetchmail in Debian's debug-run mode right now. I'm going
> to post updates as soon as i get them.

Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Rouven S. <rs...@bl...>]

Am Montag, den 10.10.2005, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Rob Funk:

> I've never even heard of Merak Mail Server myself....

http://www.icewarp.com/ 

> Are you normally checking the mailbox with other clients also?
> You could try the fetchall option, or the uidl option.  Read about 
> those in the man page.

I have to keep the messages on the server, due to the fact that other
clients have to have access to these messages as well. And if i do
understand things right, "fetchall" conflicts with "keep". 

The Debian manpage of fetchmail calls the UIDL code "flaky". Since the
manpage seems to be outdated (it is pointing to esr's homepage, for
example): is UIDL still flaky in 6.2.5.2? 

> We can't see what's wrong from a successful log.  We can only see 
> what's going wrong from an unsuccessful log.

I'm running fetchmail in Debian's debug-run mode right now. I'm going to
post updates as soon as i get them.

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Rob M. <rob...@gm...>]

On 11/10/05, Rouven Sacha <rs...@bl...> wrote:
> I have to keep the messages on the server, due to the fact that other
> clients have to have access to these messages as well. And if i do
> understand things right, "fetchall" conflicts with "keep".

Certainly a Bad Idea :-)

> The Debian manpage of fetchmail calls the UIDL code "flaky". Since the
> manpage seems to be outdated (it is pointing to esr's homepage, for
> example): is UIDL still flaky in 6.2.5.2?

I've been running one mail server that polls half a dozen remote
mailboxes (about to jump to a couple of dozen) using UIDL for nearly 3
years now.  I've never had a problem with UIDL support.

Alternatively, put it this way - you have no choice.  You can either
enable UIDL support or try to find another solution that doesn't use
fetchmail :)

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Re: [fetchmail-users] Fetchmail & Merak Mail Server

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Rob MacGregor <rob...@gm...> writes:

> Alternatively, put it this way - you have no choice.  You can either
> enable UIDL support or try to find another solution that doesn't use
> fetchmail :)

Only that the other solution would also have to use fetchall+nokeep
approaches or UIDL...

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Matthias Andree