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[fetchmail-devel] 6.3.0 is out - SVN overview

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Greetings,

with the release of 6.3.0 on BerliOS, I have made a few changes to SVN.

1. fetchmail-6.3.X versions are kept on
   https://decoy.wox.org/svn/fetchmail/branches/BRANCH_6-3. The 6.3.0
   release has been made from there. This branch should only receive
   documentation updates, well-tested and confirmed bug fixes, and
   translation updates.

2. I have tagged r4499 as
   https://decoy.wox.org/svn/fetchmail/tags/RELEASE_6-3-0 - running
   "make dist" on this branch should reproduce the release tarball with
   reasonable accuracy. I've used automake 1.9.6, autoconf 2.59, gettext
   0.14.3, flex 2.5.4 and bison 1.875 to build.

3. development for the future 6.4.0 version should take place on the
   trunk. We have outstanding feature patches, we still have some bugs
   to fix - some require changes of concept -, and todo.html and TODO
   (they do NOT have identical content at this time - unfortunately,
   we'll have to fix this, too!), see for instance
   <http://bugs.debian.org/fetchmail>. Some of the patches we still have
   pending are mentioned in the Wiki:
   <http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=FetchmailPatchReview>

4. I will not do major work on fetchmail this month and probably not
   next month either. Bugfixing 6.3.0 will suffice, and I expect we'll
   see quite a few bug reports come in now that people can hope for a
   fix.

I have not yet managed to write a decent release announcement and rework
every tiny bit of the web page - help welcome.

I also have not yet announced this 6.3.0 widely (freshmeat, other
mailing lists) - we'll see how the first downloaders receive this
software and if we need to do 6.3.1 quickly or not.

Happy fetching,

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-devel] 6.3.0 is out - SVN overview

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Matthias Andree wrote:
> with the release of 6.3.0 on BerliOS,

Woohoo!  Thanks for all your hard work on making that happen!

> I have not yet managed to write a decent release announcement and rework
> every tiny bit of the web page - help welcome.
>
> I also have not yet announced this 6.3.0 widely (freshmeat, other
> mailing lists) - we'll see how the first downloaders receive this
> software and if we need to do 6.3.1 quickly or not.

Anything in particular you do or don't want to see in an announcement?

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Re: [fetchmail-devel] 6.3.0 is out - SVN overview

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> writes:

> Matthias Andree wrote:
>> with the release of 6.3.0 on BerliOS,
>
> Woohoo!  Thanks for all your hard work on making that happen!
>
>> I have not yet managed to write a decent release announcement and rework
>> every tiny bit of the web page - help welcome.
>>
>> I also have not yet announced this 6.3.0 widely (freshmeat, other
>> mailing lists) - we'll see how the first downloaders receive this
>> software and if we need to do 6.3.1 quickly or not.
>
> Anything in particular you do or don't want to see in an announcement?

Nothing special. There are various bits you can collect from:

<http://freshmeat.net/projects/fetchmail/?branch_id=2635&release_id=213450>
<http://fetchmail.berlios.de/> (newsflash)
<http://developer.berlios.de/forum/forum.php?forum_id=16515>

-- 
Matthias Andree

Re: [fetchmail-devel] 6.3.0 is out - draft announcement

[Rob F. <rf...@fu...>]

Matthias Andree wrote:
> Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> writes:
> > Matthias Andree wrote:
> >> I have not yet managed to write a decent release announcement and
> >> rework every tiny bit of the web page - help welcome.
> >>
> >> I also have not yet announced this 6.3.0 widely (freshmeat, other
> >> mailing lists) - we'll see how the first downloaders receive this
> >> software and if we need to do 6.3.1 quickly or not.
> >
> > Anything in particular you do or don't want to see in an announcement?
>
> Nothing special. There are various bits you can collect from:
>
> 
<http://freshmeat.net/projects/fetchmail/?branch_id=2635&release_id=213450> 
<http://fetchmail.berlios.de/> (newsflash)
> <http://developer.berlios.de/forum/forum.php?forum_id=16515>

OK, I've used those plus a small paragraph about the transition from ESR in 
the attached draft.  Also a few other minor edits.  Let me know what you 
think...

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Re: [fetchmail-devel] 6.3.0 is out - draft announcement

[Nico G. <ni...@ng...>]

Hallo Rob,

* Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> [2005-12-05 19:23]:
[...] 
> Changes between Fetchmail 6.2.5 and 6.3.0:
> The --netsec/-T options were removed. The --smtphost is 
> now always "localhost". fetchmail now uses automake. 

Do you really think the autohell is an improvement?
[...] 
Regards Nico
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gimme a keyboard with 103/104/105 keys!

Re: [fetchmail-devel] 6.3.0 is out - draft announcement

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Nico Golde <ni...@ng...> writes:

> * Rob Funk <rf...@fu...> [2005-12-05 19:23]:
> [...] 
>> Changes between Fetchmail 6.2.5 and 6.3.0:
>> The --netsec/-T options were removed. The --smtphost is 
>> now always "localhost". fetchmail now uses automake. 
>
> Do you really think the autohell is an improvement?

automake surely is, it gives users and packagers a pretty well-known
default set of targets and overrides (DESTDIR, prefix, mandir and
whatnot), handles conditionals without scratching your ear with your
toes.

I'm a bit more critical about autoconf since it's plain bloatware rather
than using shell functions, but fetchmail has been using this for a long
time (if not from the first day).

auto* "hell" as you call it will certainly not go away before 7.0.0. If
a good and leaner build system has stabilized by then, we might go for it.

-- 
Matthias Andree

[fetchmail-devel] Re: 6.3.0 is out - SVN overview

[Sunil S. <sh...@bo...>]

Quoting from Matthias Andree's mail on Thu, Dec 01, 2005:
> 2. I have tagged r4499 as
>    https://decoy.wox.org/svn/fetchmail/tags/RELEASE_6-3-0 - running
>    "make dist" on this branch should reproduce the release tarball with
>    reasonable accuracy. I've used automake 1.9.6, autoconf 2.59, gettext
>    0.14.3, flex 2.5.4 and bison 1.875 to build.

fetchmail 6.3.0 seems to have been built with gettext 0.14 and not
0.14.3. Is that deliberate?

fetchmail 6.2.9-rc10 was built with gettext 0.14.3.

-- 
Sunil Shetye.

Re: [fetchmail-devel] Re: 6.3.0 is out - SVN overview

[Matthias A. <mat...@gm...>]

Sunil Shetye <sh...@bo...> writes:

> fetchmail 6.3.0 seems to have been built with gettext 0.14 and not
> 0.14.3. Is that deliberate?

No, I was unaware of this, and the gettext toolchain or cvs must have
failed at some point in time, copying 0.14.3 files there - there should
never have been anything except 0.10.stoneage, 0.13 or 0.14.1 in the
tarball. I'll be shipping 0.14.3 files with fetchmail 6.3.1.

> fetchmail 6.2.9-rc10 was built with gettext 0.14.3.

Yup. And this was an accident somehow. According to configure.ac, 0.14.1
should have been used.

-- 
Matthias Andree