Thread: [Feedreader-development] Updates khoffrath 17.12.2993

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-Make customizing toolbar working even if programmlanguage <> english.
-"Import OPML"-Form translated.

* Basic install:
- refresh should be 1 hour not 15 min (or even better at least 2 hours)
- javascript should be disabled

* description
mark all news / mark all headlines read is confusing. one of them should be
'mark everything everywhere read'.

* OK / Cancel
They are all wrong way. Usual behaviour ist to have 
							OK     Cancel

not other way round.

* Adding new Feed
When standing on a folder, the add new feed should have this 
folder set as suggestion.

* Please enter name / in folder both don't have alt-shortcuts.

* Focus is on 'Finish'. If I press Tab, I get to "Create Feed in Folder"
but the next tab does not bring me back. Try pressing it, you need 10 times
until you rereach Finish.

* Toolbar button
Standing on a feed, focus on the feed, not any headline. If you press alt-m
headlines are not marked read.

* Mark as unread and Menu Action have same shortcut

* Wrong Tab result
Standing on a feed, pressing tab. Expected result: first message is
highlighted. Real result: headline 0 is selected.

* Go back one message
Cause 'jump to next unread' does not follow the actual structure where I
stand but a kind of internal ranking (eine mir nicht nachvollziehbare
Reihenfolge), I sometimes want to go back but can't see, where I was
before. Backspace would be fine to jump one message back.

or - better: make 'jump to next unread message' really a 'if you are in
blog n, jump to next unread message means to next unread message in this
blog or if none more available, to first unread in blog n+1' :o))

Now I can go feedreading ;))
Nicole

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Nicole Simon <ni...@gn...> wrote:
>or - better: make 'jump to next unread message' really a 'if you are in
>blog n, jump to next unread message means to next unread message in this
>blog or if none more available, to first unread in blog n+1' :o))

seems as if this is working in 613 -  fine + thanks :o))
Nicole

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Nicole Simon wrote:

> * Basic install:
> - refresh should be 1 hour not 15 min (or even better at least 2 hours)
> - javascript should be disabled
> 
> * description
> mark all news / mark all headlines read is confusing. one of them should be
> 'mark everything everywhere read'.
> 

If i remember correctly, "Mark all headlines read" appears just if you 
rightclick on "MyFeeds", right? If so i think we should name this 
something like "Mark everything read". Suggestions for the name?

> * OK / Cancel
> They are all wrong way. Usual behaviour ist to have 
> 							OK     Cancel
> 
> not other way round.

Jep, this strikes me regularly, too.

> 
> * Adding new Feed
> When standing on a folder, the add new feed should have this 
> folder set as suggestion.
> 

Good point.

> * Please enter name / in folder both don't have alt-shortcuts.
> 

Is this still in New Feed?
Do you need shortcuts there? See next point.

> * Focus is on 'Finish'. If I press Tab, I get to "Create Feed in Folder"
> but the next tab does not bring me back. Try pressing it, you need 10 times
> until you rereach Finish.
> 

I see.
How about:
If you enter this window the focus is in the edit field for the feedname.
Then you can Tab to the folderlist, then Tab to Finish.
Back can't get reached by Tab, you have to click with the mouse.

> * Toolbar button
> Standing on a feed, focus on the feed, not any headline. If you press alt-m
> headlines are not marked read.
> 

Please more details ;)
The focus is on the left in the treeview or right on the headlines?

Alt-M is not the shortcut for marking read. It's Ctrl-r.

> * Mark as unread and Menu Action have same shortcut

Does "Mark as unread" has a shortcut?! It exists only in the Popup-Menu 
or  if you put it on the toolbar (or am i wrong).
We need an icon for this.

> 
> * Wrong Tab result
> Standing on a feed, pressing tab. Expected result: first message is
> highlighted. Real result: headline 0 is selected.

Ok.

> 
> * Go back one message
> Cause 'jump to next unread' does not follow the actual structure where I
> stand but a kind of internal ranking (eine mir nicht nachvollziehbare

I have no blogs, just news feeds like Spiegel, Slashdot, etc.
Does this mean that e.g. you stand on the first headline then press 
Ctrl-Z, the fourth headline is activated, then press Ctrl-z the second 
is activated?
I've never seen this.

> Reihenfolge), I sometimes want to go back but can't see, where I was
> before. Backspace would be fine to jump one message back.
> 

We can implement this but Backspace is not the right key for this.
It will get eaten by the browser window, so we can't catch it if the 
browser has the focus.
Maybe Ctrl-b

> 
> or - better: make 'jump to next unread message' really a 'if you are in
> blog n, jump to next unread message means to next unread message in this
> blog or if none more available, to first unread in blog n+1' :o))
> 

Minus the confirmation window, i guess? ;)

Karsten

Karsten Hoffrath <mai...@kh...> wrote:
>If i remember correctly, "Mark all headlines read" appears just if you 
>rightclick on "MyFeeds", right? If so i think we should name this 
>something like "Mark everything read". Suggestions for the name?

Sorry, I was refering to the toolbar button selection. But yes, I think it
should be called like this. Or  "Mark all feeds read"

>Is this still in New Feed?

yes 
>Do you need shortcuts there? See next point.

yes. should allways be there.

>If you enter this window the focus is in the edit field for the feedname.
>Then you can Tab to the folderlist, then Tab to Finish.

Sounds okay. 

>Back can't get reached by Tab, you have to click with the mouse.

this is because you neglected the keyboard shortcuts ... (like on the first
step where next has none)

btw. do this:
press f2, press escape.
window minimizes instead of just closing the "new feed" window. esc is
standard action on all dialogs for "close this and make nothing"
same with f12 

WIndow behaviour:
I read in full screen modus. When accidently minimized by escape and
brought back by doubleclicking on the systray, feedreader does not remember
the state but opens up only half of the screen on top.

>> * Toolbar button
>> Standing on a feed, focus on the feed, not any headline. If you press alt-m
>> headlines are not marked read.
>> 
>
>Please more details ;)
>The focus is on the left in the treeview or right on the headlines?

I forgot the word treeview. 
- Focus on treeview 
- press alt-m 
- nothing happens

>Alt-M is not the shortcut for marking read. It's Ctrl-r.

Alt-m is the toolbar icon shortcut. I did not use the one from the menue
cause it said to me 'mark all news read'. You don't want to test this on
this many feeds. Suggest you make this a "Mark all news from current feed"
and fix the toolbar button ;)

>> * Mark as unread and Menu Action have same shortcut
>
>Does "Mark as unread" has a shortcut?! It exists only in the Popup-Menu 
>or  if you put it on the toolbar (or am i wrong).

Toolbar. 

>We need an icon for this.

No! You have a button, thats okay. You need a working shortcut first :o))

>Does this mean that e.g. you stand on the first headline then press 
>Ctrl-Z, the fourth headline is activated, then press Ctrl-z the second 
>is activated?
>I've never seen this.

No, not in one feed, but throughout blogs. But this seemed fixed now, it
now jumps to the next unread message depending on where I am.
>
>We can implement this but Backspace is not the right key for this.
>It will get eaten by the browser window, so we can't catch it if the 

>Maybe Ctrl-b

CTRL-Z / Backspace to jump to last message is unlikely because it is
normally undo, but you don't really have this here. So undo is good,
because it does fit into 'jump to last selected message' 

But this is not as important anymore, skip this ;))

>browser has the focus.
Thanks for reminding me: Can we please -  in cause you have nothing to do -
an option to choose if clicking an entry sets focus into the browser window
or just stays there? If I doubleclick an entry to have it openend in a
browser window outside, I can't use the wheelmouse to scroll through my
headlines - because focus went into the browser.

Because Feeds are not webpages but short text it seems odd to me that this
is standard. If I want the page to load, I click on the url inside the
browser window. Focus sets there - perfect. But when you do read feeds and
want to scroll through the headlines?

>Minus the confirmation window, i guess? ;)

of course ;) confirmation is good, but not if it stands in the normal way
people are using it. Because it is already there - you could make it an
option :)

Nicole

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