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From: Kristjan J. <kri...@sl...> - 2003-12-10 14:45:52
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I'd split the goals into 2 phases: #1 Catch up with the competitiors: - OPML feelist import/export - finding feeds from HTML pages usig <link rel=3D"alternate" type=3D"application/rss+xml" title=3D"RSS" = href=3D"/rss.xml" /> - support for RSS 2.0 + modules - improve usability - stability, stability, stability #2 Future features - Syndic8 XML-RPC API support (search, feedlists) - genereric, XML parser-based namespace support (for RSS 1.0 and 2.0 and = whatnot) - support for Atom syndication format - blog posting ? The main competitive edge of the Feedreader shold be the "small, light, = but does everything you need". No need to introduce bloat just for questionable features sake. so far for now, kristjan |
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From: Karsten H. <mai...@kh...> - 2003-12-11 18:18:51
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This mail doesn't get throught yesterday, too. Kristjan Jansen wrote: > I'd split the goals into 2 phases: > > #1 Catch up with the competitiors: > > - OPML feelist import/export Nice to have but what is the use of this? To exchange feedlists with other programs? Exists a "standard" for exchanging feedlists? If so do you have a link? Can you implement this in Feedreader? > - finding feeds from HTML pages usig > <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="/rss.xml" /> I'm not sure under when to use this? When a page is shown in the EmbeddedWB? And then extract all feeds out of this page? > - support for RSS 2.0 + modules Must! Do you have links for the RSS definitons? Is Feedreader not compatible with RSS2.0? Or can you implement this into Feedreader? > - improve usability I think its usable ;) Where do you want to improve it? As i see it the main improvement at the moment is to localize Feedreader so the user can choose which language he wants to use. The code in cvs can now localize all labels, menuitems, actions, etc. In cvs is a tranlsation template which holds all strings used in the actual state. > - stability, stability, stability For me it is pretty stable. I use it now for over six months and never had a problem (ok, except the mentioned bugs) nor crash. On the other hand i'm not pushing it. Nicole has 300 feeds in her setup so maybe she should talk about stability :) . > > #2 Future features > > - Syndic8 XML-RPC API support (search, feedlists) Don't know this. From the name i would call it something which is just supported by Syndic8. Does it make sense to implement something which is just offered by one website? > - genereric, XML parser-based namespace support (for RSS 1.0 and 2.0 and whatnot) > - support for Atom syndication format I can't comment on this. I know not enough about these things. Do you have a link where i can read up on this? > - blog posting ? Is this not possible with the current code? I read somewhere in the forum that the people are doing this but have problems if they press 'z' which will maximize the EmbeddedWB window. This problem is fixed in cvs. > > The main competitive edge of the Feedreader shold be the "small, light, but does everything you need". > No need to introduce bloat just for questionable features sake. Ok Karsten P.S. Some questions might seem to be offensiv but they are not meant to be :) . . |
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From: Karsten H. <mai...@kh...> - 2003-12-10 17:24:42
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Kristjan Jansen wrote: > I'd split the goals into 2 phases: > > #1 Catch up with the competitiors: > > - OPML feelist import/export Nice to have but what is the use of this? To exchange feedlists with other programs? Exists a "standard" for exchanging feedlists? If so do you have a link? Can you implement this in Feedreader? > - finding feeds from HTML pages usig > <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="/rss.xml" /> I'm not sure under when to use this? When a page is shown in the EmbeddedWB? And then extract all feeds out of this page? > - support for RSS 2.0 + modules Must! Do you have links for the RSS definitons? Is Feedreader not compatible with RSS2.0? Or can you implement this into Feedreader? > - improve usability I think its usable ;) Where do you want to improve it? As i see it the main improvement at the moment is to localize Feedreader so the user can choose which language he wants to use. The code in cvs can now localize all labels, menuitems, actions, etc. In cvs is a tranlsation template which holds all strings used in the actual state. > - stability, stability, stability For me it is pretty stable. I use it now for over six months and never had a problem (ok, except the mentioned bugs) nor crash. On the other hand i'm not pushing it. Nicole has 300 feeds in her setup so maybe she should talk about stability ;) . > > #2 Future features > > - Syndic8 XML-RPC API support (search, feedlists) Don't know this. From the name i would call it something which is just supported by Syndic8. Does it make sense to implement something which is just offered by one website? > - genereric, XML parser-based namespace support (for RSS 1.0 and 2.0 and whatnot) > - support for Atom syndication format I can't comment on this. I know not enough about these things. Do you have a link where i can read up on this? > - blog posting ? Is this not possible with the current code? I read somewhere in the forum that the people are doing this but have problems if they press 'z' which will maximize the EmbeddedWB window. This problem is fixed in cvs. > > The main competitive edge of the Feedreader shold be the "small, light, but does everything you need". > No need to introduce bloat just for questionable features sake. Ok ;) Karsten P.S. Some questions might seem to be offensiv but they are not meant to be ;) . |
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From: Nicole S. <ni...@gn...> - 2003-12-11 22:36:28
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Karsten Hoffrath <mai...@kh...> wrote: >Nice to have but what is the use of this? To exchange feedlists with >other programs? No. To import your existing list from other feedreaders into feedreader. I can't test other readers because I have to write a skript to convert all my feeds. Remember: The harder a change is, the easier it is to switch completely and never come back. >> - finding feeds from HTML pages usig >> <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="/rss.xml" /> >I'm not sure under when to use this? When a page is shown in the >EmbeddedWB? And then extract all feeds out of this page? No. If you have feedreader installed and have a nice blog which you want to subscribe, you do now - desire to subscribe - copy feed address - switch to feedreader - f2 - insert link - wait - set finished with the abouve: - desire to subscribe - klick button - set finished >Where do you want to improve it? Better Keyboard accessibilty - the short cuts are mostly not working plus there are other things one could improve (mainly "where does the focus go when one has klicked somewhere) >> - stability, stability, stability > >For me it is pretty stable. I use it now for over six months and never >had a problem (ok, except the mentioned bugs) nor crash. On the other >hand i'm not pushing it. it takes minutes till it is loaded. it is more stable on my xp/768 mb ram machine. it wasn't under win me. if i had stayed with win me I would have switched to another reader. >Nicole has 300 feeds in her setup so maybe she >should talk about stability ;) . if we had a feature to export feeds I could give you my file and you could easily test it ... Nicole -- http://www.useful-sounds.de/ - http://beissholz.de |
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From: Karsten H. <mai...@kh...> - 2003-12-12 08:30:23
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Nicole Simon wrote: > Karsten Hoffrath <mai...@kh...> wrote: > >>Nice to have but what is the use of this? To exchange feedlists with >>other programs? > > > No. To import your existing list from other feedreaders into feedreader. I > can't test other readers because I have to write a skript to convert all my > feeds. Remember: The harder a change is, the easier it is to switch > completely and never come back. > Ok, i get this. But then there must be a standard fileformat for this exchange. Where to find it? > > >>>- finding feeds from HTML pages usig >>> <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="/rss.xml" /> >> >>I'm not sure under when to use this? When a page is shown in the >>EmbeddedWB? And then extract all feeds out of this page? > > > No. If you have feedreader installed and have a nice blog which you want to > subscribe, you do now > - desire to subscribe > - copy feed address > - switch to feedreader > - f2 > - insert link > - wait > - set finished > > with the abouve: > - desire to subscribe > - klick button > - set finished > Ah, ok. But this will work only in the browser within Feedreader. Do you have an example for such a link? > > >>Where do you want to improve it? > > > Better Keyboard accessibilty - the short cuts are mostly not working plus > there are other things one could improve (mainly "where does the focus go > when one has klicked somewhere) > Could you make a small list for this issues? > >>>- stability, stability, stability >> >>For me it is pretty stable. I use it now for over six months and never >>had a problem (ok, except the mentioned bugs) nor crash. On the other >>hand i'm not pushing it. > > > it takes minutes till it is loaded. it is more stable on my xp/768 mb ram > machine. it wasn't under win me. if i had stayed with win me I would have > switched to another reader. > I believe the problem here is that -you keep all headlines and never remove old ones(?) and/or -the feed informations are stored in xml and parsing this at startup takes some time. To change this we could switch to another fileformat but then we need the OPML import/export functionality. Maybe more, for example archiving old headlines, etc. > >>Nicole has 300 feeds in her setup so maybe she >>should talk about stability ;) . > > > if we had a feature to export feeds I could give you my file and you could > easily test it ... No problem :) Go to the feedreader application directory, zip the files "headlines.xml" and "subscriptions.xml" and send it to me. You will find the files in this directory (assuming you have a german Windows): C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\%Username%\Anwendungsdaten\FeedReader If you don't see "Anwendungsdaten" you should enable the directory option "Show all files". Karsten |
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From: Nicole S. <ni...@gn...> - 2003-12-11 22:30:42
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"Kristjan Jansen" <kri...@sl...> wrote: >- OPML feelist import/export yes. >- finding feeds from HTML pages usig > <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="RSS" href="/rss.xml" /> very nice, yes :o))) >- stability, stability, stability jap :o( Nicole -- http://www.useful-sounds.de/ - http://beissholz.de |
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