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[F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script

From: Deivy P. <ca...@di...> - 2007-06-01 16:04:16


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
> Date: May 29, 2007 17:32:41 EDT
> To: f-s...@li...
> Subject: Windows with F-script
>
> Hello,
>
> I am new to F-script and Objective-C.
> I am trying to learn both of them now. Also, I normally suck at  
> writing the UI for any app.
> Somehow I am a big fan of faceless apps.
> However, I want to write one that really needs a face.
> I need to create a window a la Growl, or Application Switcher on  
> the Mac, with F-Script.
> Well, I can do that! However, if I create the window, a borderless  
> one I can not move it or even get rid of it.
> I tried using (Objective-c, Cocoa) code suggested by Apple. But  
> somethings get stuck.
> The code uses a dot language which apparently does not bode well  
> with F script.
> For instance, the line of code:
> (newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y 
> +screenFrame.size.height)
>
> gets stuck in the "." of newOrigin.y.
>
> Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Deivy
>

Re: [F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script

From: Andrew W. <wei...@wi...> - 2007-06-01 16:49:10

Deivy,

In Objective-C, sometimes small pieces of data like points or rectangles are stored as C structs, for reasons of efficiency. In Objective-C, they are accessed with the dot operator. F-Script translates them into objects (specifically, NSValue objects), which are then accessed through methods. So the line of objective-C code:

(newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y+screenFrame.size.height)

can be written in F-Script as:

(newOrigin y + windowFrame extent y > (screenFrame origin y + screenFrame extent y)

Andrew Weinrich


----- Original Message -----
From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
Date: Friday, June 1, 2007 11:04 am
Subject: [F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script
To: f-s...@li...


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
> > Date: May 29, 2007 17:32:41 EDT
> > To: f-s...@li...
> > Subject: Windows with F-script
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am new to F-script and Objective-C.
> > I am trying to learn both of them now. Also, I normally suck at  
> > writing the UI for any app.
> > Somehow I am a big fan of faceless apps.
> > However, I want to write one that really needs a face.
> > I need to create a window a la Growl, or Application Switcher on  
> > the Mac, with F-Script.
> > Well, I can do that! However, if I create the window, a borderless  
> 
> > one I can not move it or even get rid of it.
> > I tried using (Objective-c, Cocoa) code suggested by Apple. But  
> > somethings get stuck.
> > The code uses a dot language which apparently does not bode well  
> > with F script.
> > For instance, the line of code:
> > (newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y 
> > +screenFrame.size.height)
> >
> > gets stuck in the "." of newOrigin.y.
> >
> > Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Deivy
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script

From: Deivy P. <ca...@di...> - 2007-06-02 20:39:07

Andrew,
thank you very much.
I feel I still have to practice a little more, but you saved me some  
time.
I might come back with some more questions in a while. F-script  
certainly sounds like a very powerful tool.
I fell I have to mater it.

Do you have any pointers other than the documentation available on line?
Thanks again.

Deivy
> Deivy,
>
> In Objective-C, sometimes small pieces of data like points or  
> rectangles are stored as C structs, for reasons of efficiency. In  
> Objective-C, they are accessed with the dot operator. F-Script  
> translates them into objects (specifically, NSValue objects), which  
> are then accessed through methods. So the line of objective-C code:
>
> (newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y 
> +screenFrame.size.height)
>
> can be written in F-Script as:
>
> (newOrigin y + windowFrame extent y > (screenFrame origin y +  
> screenFrame extent y)
>
> Andrew Weinrich
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
> Date: Friday, June 1, 2007 11:04 am
> Subject: [F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script
> To: f-s...@li...
>
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
>>> Date: May 29, 2007 17:32:41 EDT
>>> To: f-s...@li...
>>> Subject: Windows with F-script
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am new to F-script and Objective-C.
>>> I am trying to learn both of them now. Also, I normally suck at
>>> writing the UI for any app.
>>> Somehow I am a big fan of faceless apps.
>>> However, I want to write one that really needs a face.
>>> I need to create a window a la Growl, or Application Switcher on
>>> the Mac, with F-Script.
>>> Well, I can do that! However, if I create the window, a borderless
>>
>>> one I can not move it or even get rid of it.
>>> I tried using (Objective-c, Cocoa) code suggested by Apple. But
>>> somethings get stuck.
>>> The code uses a dot language which apparently does not bode well
>>> with F script.
>>> For instance, the line of code:
>>> (newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y
>>> +screenFrame.size.height)
>>>
>>> gets stuck in the "." of newOrigin.y.
>>>
>>> Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> Deivy
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script

From: Andrew W. <wei...@wi...> - 2007-06-02 21:50:56

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Deivy,

You might want to look at resources about the language Smalltalk,  
from which F-Script is derived. The Smalltalk syntax is very  
different than most other languages like Java or C++. I would also  
read the documentation on Apple's developer website, http:// 
developer.apple.com. Most of the examples in Objective-C can be  
translated to F-Script without much difficulty.

Andrew Weinrich


On Jun 2, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Deivy Petrescu wrote:

>
> Andrew,
> thank you very much.
> I feel I still have to practice a little more, but you saved me some
> time.
> I might come back with some more questions in a while. F-script
> certainly sounds like a very powerful tool.
> I fell I have to mater it.
>
> Do you have any pointers other than the documentation available on  
> line?
> Thanks again.
>
> Deivy
>> Deivy,
>>
>> In Objective-C, sometimes small pieces of data like points or
>> rectangles are stored as C structs, for reasons of efficiency. In
>> Objective-C, they are accessed with the dot operator. F-Script
>> translates them into objects (specifically, NSValue objects), which
>> are then accessed through methods. So the line of objective-C code:
>>
>> (newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y
>> +screenFrame.size.height)
>>
>> can be written in F-Script as:
>>
>> (newOrigin y + windowFrame extent y > (screenFrame origin y +
>> screenFrame extent y)
>>
>> Andrew Weinrich
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
>> Date: Friday, June 1, 2007 11:04 am
>> Subject: [F-Script-talk] Fwd: Windows with F-script
>> To: f-s...@li...
>>
>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Deivy Petrescu <ca...@di...>
>>>> Date: May 29, 2007 17:32:41 EDT
>>>> To: f-s...@li...
>>>> Subject: Windows with F-script
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am new to F-script and Objective-C.
>>>> I am trying to learn both of them now. Also, I normally suck at
>>>> writing the UI for any app.
>>>> Somehow I am a big fan of faceless apps.
>>>> However, I want to write one that really needs a face.
>>>> I need to create a window a la Growl, or Application Switcher on
>>>> the Mac, with F-Script.
>>>> Well, I can do that! However, if I create the window, a borderless
>>>
>>>> one I can not move it or even get rid of it.
>>>> I tried using (Objective-c, Cocoa) code suggested by Apple. But
>>>> somethings get stuck.
>>>> The code uses a dot language which apparently does not bode well
>>>> with F script.
>>>> For instance, the line of code:
>>>> (newOrigin.y+windowFrame.size.height) > (screenFrame.origin.y
>>>> +screenFrame.size.height)
>>>>
>>>> gets stuck in the "." of newOrigin.y.
>>>>
>>>> Any hints would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deivy
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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