f-script-talk

Re: [F-Script-talk] [ANN] F-Script 1.3.1 Release Candidate

[Jonathan 'W. R. <ni...@re...>]

Todd Blanchard, tbl...@ma..., wrote:
>I've tried it with my ObjectiveCLIPS example code and it works  
>great.  Looks like I can stop shipping my hacked version  since this  
>one supports fake accessors on NSManagedObjects.  Thanks!

What are 'fake accessors'?

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Re: [F-Script-talk] [ANN] F-Script 1.3.1 Release Candidate

[Jonathan 'W. R. <ni...@re...>]

Todd Blanchard, tbl...@ma..., wrote:
>It is possible to say 'anObject setFoo: aValue' and 'anObject foo' to  
>an NSManagedObject if the object's entity has property  
>'foo' (basically it maps setFoo: to setValue: forKey:'foo' and foo to  
>valueForKey:'foo'
>
>This is nice as creating custom subclasses of NSMangedObject just to  
>get accessors is monkey coding and it gets tedious always writing  
>'anObject setValue: aValue forKey: 'foo''  all the time.

Ah, cool. Yeah, I was doing a lot of setValue:forKey: just today. Was 
almost enough to get me to figure out how to hook up EOGenerator with 
Core Data. Almost. ;-)

| Jonathan 'Wolf' Rentzsch   http://rentzsch.com
| Red Shed Software           http://redshed.net
|     "better" necessarily means "different"

Re: [F-Script-talk] [ANN] F-Script 1.3.1 Release Candidate

[Todd B. <tbl...@ma...>]

It is possible to say 'anObject setFoo: aValue' and 'anObject foo' to  
an NSManagedObject if the object's entity has property  
'foo' (basically it maps setFoo: to setValue: forKey:'foo' and foo to  
valueForKey:'foo'

This is nice as creating custom subclasses of NSMangedObject just to  
get accessors is monkey coding and it gets tedious always writing  
'anObject setValue: aValue forKey: 'foo''  all the time.




On Jan 29, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Jonathan 'Wolf' Rentzsch wrote:

> Todd Blanchard, tbl...@ma..., wrote:
>> I've tried it with my ObjectiveCLIPS example code and it works
>> great.  Looks like I can stop shipping my hacked version  since this
>> one supports fake accessors on NSManagedObjects.  Thanks!
>
> What are 'fake accessors'?
>
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> | Red Shed Software           http://redshed.net
> |     "better" necessarily means "different"
>
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Re: [F-Script-talk] [ANN] F-Script 1.3.1 Release Candidate

[Ken F. <ken...@gm...>]

On 1/29/06, Todd Blanchard <tbl...@ma...> wrote:
> It is possible to say 'anObject setFoo: aValue' and 'anObject foo' to
> an NSManagedObject if the object's entity has property
> 'foo' (basically it maps setFoo: to setValue: forKey:'foo' and foo to
> valueForKey:'foo'

So is there any reason we're only doing this for NSManagedObjects?  Is
it too evil to want to get at normal object ivars in this way as well?
:-)

I usually use FScript for exploration and debugging, so I'm generally
not too concerned with encapsulation.

The release candidate is working great for me so far!

-Ken

Re: [F-Script-talk] [ANN] F-Script 1.3.1 Release Candidate

[Philippe M. <pm...@ac...>]

Le 30 janv. 06 =E0 04:06, Ken Ferry a =E9crit :

> On 1/29/06, Todd Blanchard <tbl...@ma...> wrote:
>> It is possible to say 'anObject setFoo: aValue' and 'anObject foo' to
>> an NSManagedObject if the object's entity has property
>> 'foo' (basically it maps setFoo: to setValue: forKey:'foo' and foo to
>> valueForKey:'foo'
>
> So is there any reason we're only doing this for NSManagedObjects?  Is
> it too evil to want to get at normal object ivars in this way as well?
> :-)

Even mentioning it is evil ! :-)

Well, the goal with NSManagedObject was to re-objectify the whole =20
damned thing and make it easier to use it with F-Script's array =20
programming model. But I don't want to introduce too much magical =20
behavior. And it is already possible to directly manipulate ivars =20
from F-Script using KVC (storedValueForKey: and =20
takeStoredValue:forKey: generally work). On the other hand I'd like =20
to have a graphical browser showing instance variables. There was =20
something like that in GDB on NEXTSTEP 3 and it was terrific for =20
debugging.

> I usually use FScript for exploration and debugging, so I'm generally
> not too concerned with encapsulation.
>
> The release candidate is working great for me so far!

Thanks for testing it.

Philippe Mougin=