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Re: [Exist-development] Start of the new look for the dashboard
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From: Loren C. <lor...@gm...> - 2014-03-09 16:38:28
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I just made the wiki pages viewable by all. On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Loren Cahlander <lor...@gm...> wrote: > I have the following website available as a wiki for this project: https://greatlinkup.com/wiki. > > https://greatlinkup.com/wiki/projects/expathdashboard/EXPath_Dashboard.html > > For those of you that are interested in collaborating on this general purpose EXPath Dashboard Web App: > Let me know and I will create an account for you > We will start with identifying requirements > > > Loren Cahlander > Principal > GreatLinkUp, LLC > cah...@gr... > lor...@gm... > +1-651-747-6910 > > > > On Mar 6, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Loren Cahlander <lor...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hello Joe, >> >> The idea of this occurred during the eXist-db pre-conference session. >> >> The idea would be to abstract out the difference between the implementations and have those as control panels to get displayed just like apps get displayed. >> >> The control panels could then be written just like any other webapp, but calling implementation specific functions. >> >> Loren >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Joe Wicentowski <jo...@gm...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Loren, >>> >>> Nice start. Could you expand a bit on how you see this effort being a >>> broader EXPath project? >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Loren Cahlander >>> <lor...@gm...> wrote: >>>> Adding the EXPath mailing list to the discussion. >>>> >>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Adam Retter <ad...@ex...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just to add my own 2 cents. >>>>> >>>>> From my experience of developing 2 plugins for the dashboard, I have >>>>> to say that it was incredibly hard to do and frustrating as I could >>>>> not really achieve the display I wanted. I also find a very uneasy >>>>> mismatch between plugins and XARs. >>>>> >>>>> I think it would be much simpler if everything was XARs but there was >>>>> a certain XAR template, that effectively displays the XAR inline >>>>> within the dashboard in the same way that plugins currently work. It >>>>> would be nice if I could author a plugin, without having to really >>>>> know anything about the dashboard. It seems to me that this technology >>>>> already exists in the form of Web Components and we should embrace >>>>> these and not invent something else. >>>>> >>>>> Regards frameworks, I don't mind which you use for the UI >>>>> particularly, however if there is going to be any Javascript, I have a >>>>> strong preference to avoid Dojo entirely (and if possible jQuery). I >>>>> have instead been having a very happy life in the last year or so by >>>>> just using Angular.js. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6 March 2014 10:10, Joern Turner <joe...@gm...> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Loren, >>>>>> >>>>>> i appreciate efforts to improve the dashboard. It was just a first quick >>>>>> sketch back then and it's about time to think of version 2. As it's a >>>>>> central part of the eXist user interface we should however design it >>>>>> sensibly and gather as much input as possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> So first thing would be about sharing the ideas and mockups and ideally >>>>>> allow comments to certain elements online (does anyone know a tool allowing >>>>>> that?). Same applies to the actual code - why not setup it as a repo on the >>>>>> eXistdb github (i'll ask Wolfgang about that) so more interested people can >>>>>> participate. >>>>>> >>>>>> My first questions about your sketch: >>>>>> am i getting you right that you'd like to make a distinction between our >>>>>> current plugins (which handle administrative things within eXist) and the >>>>>> actual xar applications and put them in a kind of toolbar? If so, i agree in >>>>>> general with the idea - however i'm not sure if i favour a toolbar for that >>>>>> - probably i can come up with some alternative so let me think about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> We should also probably define some requirements: >>>>>> - defnitely should be responsive (+1 for your effort to do so) >>>>>> - should allow for themes. It's a matter of taste if you like shades or >>>>>> prefer a flat look. Same applies to backgrounds. So a design should use >>>>>> sensible CSS classes from ground up and favor a simple and clean markup >>>>>> underneath. >>>>>> - we have to think about icon sizes as scaling (as a result of responsive >>>>>> design) not always works good out of the box and icons might look ugly for >>>>>> certain resolutions. So we have to test and see if we need to apply one (or >>>>>> several) standard size(s) >>>>>> - we should keep highres displays in mind (retina) >>>>>> >>>>>> I appreciate the use of Polymer as it seems to be ideal for the job. We need >>>>>> to keep in mind however that all the plugins would need re-implementation as >>>>>> they depend on Dojo at the moment - this can be quite an undertaking. >>>>>> >>>>>> Great that you triggered the effort - it's been on my list for quite some >>>>>> time so it's time to get it going. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Joern >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Loren Cahlander <lor...@gm...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please take a look at http://greatlinkup.com/foo/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From our discussion at the eXist pre-conference session, I am working on a >>>>>>> new dashboard that should be general for all EXPath implementations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The differences between implementations would be in the control panels. I >>>>>>> am planning on moving the control panels out of the plugins. I am planning >>>>>>> on placing the control panels in /db/system/controls for eXist. The control >>>>>>> panels will have a smaller icon and the icons will be on the top bar. When >>>>>>> a control panel icon is selected, then the control panel then slides down >>>>>>> underneath the top bar. An example of this can be seen by selecting the >>>>>>> first icon on the top bar and see the drop-down to show the control panels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The squares below are for the launch of each app. I have made the page >>>>>>> mobile responsive. It is also made using the Polymer web components and not >>>>>>> bootstrap. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Loren >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to >>>>>>> Perforce. >>>>>>> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. >>>>>>> Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Exist-development mailing list >>>>>>> Exi...@li... >>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-development >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to >>>>>> Perforce. >>>>>> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. >>>>>> Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and >>>>>> the >>>>>> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce. >>>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Exist-development mailing list >>>>>> Exi...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-development >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Adam Retter >>>>> >>>>> eXist Developer >>>>> { United Kingdom } >>>>> ad...@ex... >>>>> irc://irc.freenode.net/existdb >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to Perforce. >>>> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. >>>> Faster operations. Version large binaries. Built-in WAN optimization and the >>>> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. 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