Re: [Exist-development] Start of the new look for the dashboard

[Joe W. <jo...@gm...>]

Hi Loren,

Nice start.  Could you expand a bit on how you see this effort being a
broader EXPath project?

Joe

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Loren Cahlander
<lor...@gm...> wrote:
> Adding the EXPath mailing list to the discussion.
>
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Adam Retter <ad...@ex...> wrote:
>
>> Just to add my own 2 cents.
>>
>> From my experience of developing 2 plugins for the dashboard, I have
>> to say that it was incredibly hard to do and frustrating as I could
>> not really achieve the display I wanted. I also find a very uneasy
>> mismatch between plugins and XARs.
>>
>> I think it would be much simpler if everything was XARs but there was
>> a certain XAR template, that effectively displays the XAR inline
>> within the dashboard in the same way that plugins currently work. It
>> would be nice if I could author a plugin, without having to really
>> know anything about the dashboard. It seems to me that this technology
>> already exists in the form of Web Components and we should embrace
>> these and not invent something else.
>>
>> Regards frameworks, I don't mind which you use for the UI
>> particularly, however if there is going to be any Javascript, I have a
>> strong preference to avoid Dojo entirely (and if possible jQuery). I
>> have instead been having a very happy life in the last year or so by
>> just using Angular.js.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 March 2014 10:10, Joern Turner <joe...@gm...> wrote:
>>> Hi Loren,
>>>
>>> i appreciate efforts to improve the dashboard. It was just a first quick
>>> sketch back then and it's about time to think of version 2. As it's a
>>> central part of the eXist user interface we should however design it
>>> sensibly and gather as much input as possible.
>>>
>>> So first thing would be about sharing the ideas and mockups and ideally
>>> allow comments to certain elements online (does anyone know a tool allowing
>>> that?). Same applies to the actual code - why not setup it as a repo on the
>>> eXistdb github (i'll ask Wolfgang about that) so more interested people can
>>> participate.
>>>
>>> My first questions about your sketch:
>>> am i getting you right that you'd like to make a distinction between our
>>> current plugins (which handle administrative things within eXist) and the
>>> actual xar applications and put them in a kind of toolbar? If so, i agree in
>>> general with the idea - however i'm not sure if i favour a toolbar for that
>>> - probably i can come up with some alternative so let me think about it.
>>>
>>> We should also probably define some requirements:
>>> - defnitely should be responsive (+1 for your effort to do so)
>>> - should allow for themes. It's a matter of taste if you like shades or
>>> prefer a flat look. Same applies to backgrounds. So a design should use
>>> sensible CSS classes from ground up and favor a simple and clean markup
>>> underneath.
>>> - we have to think about icon sizes as scaling (as a result of responsive
>>> design) not always works good out of the box and icons might look ugly for
>>> certain resolutions. So we have to test and see if we need to apply one (or
>>> several) standard size(s)
>>> - we should keep highres displays in mind (retina)
>>>
>>> I appreciate the use of Polymer as it seems to be ideal for the job. We need
>>> to keep in mind however that all the plugins would need re-implementation as
>>> they depend on Dojo at the moment - this can be quite an undertaking.
>>>
>>> Great that you triggered the effort - it's been on my list for quite some
>>> time so it's time to get it going.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joern
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Loren Cahlander <lor...@gm...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Please take a look at http://greatlinkup.com/foo/
>>>>
>>>> From our discussion at the eXist pre-conference session, I am working on a
>>>> new dashboard that should be general for all EXPath implementations.
>>>>
>>>> The differences between implementations would be in the control panels.  I
>>>> am planning on moving the control panels out of the plugins.  I am planning
>>>> on placing the control panels in /db/system/controls for eXist.  The control
>>>> panels will have a smaller icon and the icons will be on the top bar.  When
>>>> a control panel icon is selected, then the control panel then slides down
>>>> underneath the top bar.  An example of this can be seen by selecting the
>>>> first icon on the top bar and see the drop-down to show the control panels.
>>>>
>>>> The squares below are for the launch of each app.  I have made the page
>>>> mobile responsive.  It is also made using the Polymer web components and not
>>>> bootstrap.
>>>>
>>>> Loren
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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>> Adam Retter
>>
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