Re: [Exist-development] Start of the new look for the dashboard

[Loren C. <lor...@gm...>]

Adding the EXPath mailing list to the discussion.

On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Adam Retter <ad...@ex...> wrote:

> Just to add my own 2 cents.
> 
> From my experience of developing 2 plugins for the dashboard, I have
> to say that it was incredibly hard to do and frustrating as I could
> not really achieve the display I wanted. I also find a very uneasy
> mismatch between plugins and XARs.
> 
> I think it would be much simpler if everything was XARs but there was
> a certain XAR template, that effectively displays the XAR inline
> within the dashboard in the same way that plugins currently work. It
> would be nice if I could author a plugin, without having to really
> know anything about the dashboard. It seems to me that this technology
> already exists in the form of Web Components and we should embrace
> these and not invent something else.
> 
> Regards frameworks, I don't mind which you use for the UI
> particularly, however if there is going to be any Javascript, I have a
> strong preference to avoid Dojo entirely (and if possible jQuery). I
> have instead been having a very happy life in the last year or so by
> just using Angular.js.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6 March 2014 10:10, Joern Turner <joe...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hi Loren,
>> 
>> i appreciate efforts to improve the dashboard. It was just a first quick
>> sketch back then and it's about time to think of version 2. As it's a
>> central part of the eXist user interface we should however design it
>> sensibly and gather as much input as possible.
>> 
>> So first thing would be about sharing the ideas and mockups and ideally
>> allow comments to certain elements online (does anyone know a tool allowing
>> that?). Same applies to the actual code - why not setup it as a repo on the
>> eXistdb github (i'll ask Wolfgang about that) so more interested people can
>> participate.
>> 
>> My first questions about your sketch:
>> am i getting you right that you'd like to make a distinction between our
>> current plugins (which handle administrative things within eXist) and the
>> actual xar applications and put them in a kind of toolbar? If so, i agree in
>> general with the idea - however i'm not sure if i favour a toolbar for that
>> - probably i can come up with some alternative so let me think about it.
>> 
>> We should also probably define some requirements:
>> - defnitely should be responsive (+1 for your effort to do so)
>> - should allow for themes. It's a matter of taste if you like shades or
>> prefer a flat look. Same applies to backgrounds. So a design should use
>> sensible CSS classes from ground up and favor a simple and clean markup
>> underneath.
>> - we have to think about icon sizes as scaling (as a result of responsive
>> design) not always works good out of the box and icons might look ugly for
>> certain resolutions. So we have to test and see if we need to apply one (or
>> several) standard size(s)
>> - we should keep highres displays in mind (retina)
>> 
>> I appreciate the use of Polymer as it seems to be ideal for the job. We need
>> to keep in mind however that all the plugins would need re-implementation as
>> they depend on Dojo at the moment - this can be quite an undertaking.
>> 
>> Great that you triggered the effort - it's been on my list for quite some
>> time so it's time to get it going.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Joern
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Loren Cahlander <lor...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Folks,
>>> 
>>> Please take a look at http://greatlinkup.com/foo/
>>> 
>>> From our discussion at the eXist pre-conference session, I am working on a
>>> new dashboard that should be general for all EXPath implementations.
>>> 
>>> The differences between implementations would be in the control panels.  I
>>> am planning on moving the control panels out of the plugins.  I am planning
>>> on placing the control panels in /db/system/controls for eXist.  The control
>>> panels will have a smaller icon and the icons will be on the top bar.  When
>>> a control panel icon is selected, then the control panel then slides down
>>> underneath the top bar.  An example of this can be seen by selecting the
>>> first icon on the top bar and see the drop-down to show the control panels.
>>> 
>>> The squares below are for the launch of each app.  I have made the page
>>> mobile responsive.  It is also made using the Polymer web components and not
>>> bootstrap.
>>> 
>>> Loren
>>> 
>>> 
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