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Re: [Exist-open] Don't Have "New Application" Option

[Joshua S. <jos...@gm...>]

Tldr: Just to add a +1 to this topic, I'm agreeing here, too.

Long version: When the integrated app creation tool  was removed 2y ago, it
took me hours to get the recommended npm package to run, repeatedly getting
stuck in NPMs dependency overhead hell. Once it finally ran without any
errors, I still ended up with a package that did not install in the (then
latest) eXist. I tried several times over the past years and so far I never
managed to produce a working app with this (fair enough, I'm rarely asking
for support, always thinking I'm the idiot).

Sure, npm has been a standard for quite a while now and there are probably
good reasons not to use the old integrated legacy app creation tool - but
it's somewhat off putting for non-Node developers to download and run an
overhead of hundreds of megabytes of npm dependencies, just to produce a
comparable tiny app scaffold (that then won't even install).

So I opted for the same workaround described here before: I installed a
legacy version of eXist just to create an app scaffold - and then
downloaded and installed it on the latest version  (worrying it might be
insecure, but at least it runs). While this still works smoothly to this
date, it lead to me not using exist much for app development anymore, but
only as a database via the REST API. Maybe that's for the better anyways.

-- end of long version


Nick Sincaglia <nsi...@nu...> schrieb am Do., 30. Mai 2024, 15:48:

> I agree. That app builder was pretty handy. We continue to run an old
> version of eXist-db just for this purpose. We will create new apps using
> this old version and download the XAR package and install it on the newer
> versions of eXist-db we run in production.
>
> Nick
>
> On 5/30/24 1:38 AM, Michael Pilarski wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
>
> please see Joe's answer to this topic at
> https://stackoverflow.com/a/70189542.
>
> Michael
>
> Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 01:43 Uhr schrieb John Reed <jr...@gm...>:
>
>> I believe that no longer is available with a later version because of
>> some kind of security problem. I would like that back. It was great to be
>> able to create an app without really thinking about it and just building on
>> top of what was there. I wish they would put it back in the later version.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 29, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Don Smith via Exist-open <
>> exi...@li...> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I've just installed eXist 6.2.0 on Windows 11.
>>
>> * The DB is running
>> * I'm logged in as Admin (eXide shows "Logged in as Admin")
>>
>> In eXide, when I click on "Application" there is no "New Application"
>> option available. The only menu options I see are:
>>
>> * Download app
>> * Synchronize
>> * Live reload
>>
>> I assume that something has gone wrong in the install but ??
>>
>> I've looked through the Packages that are available to install and don't
>> see anything there that looks like what I need. Is it possible the option
>> has moved to a different location in 6.0.2? Is there another way to
>> create a new application?
>>
>> Any help is appreciated as this appears to be a complete show stopper
>> (can't create new applications).
>>
>> Don
>>
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Re: [Exist-open] Don't Have "New Application" Option

[Nick S. <nsi...@nu...>]

I agree. That app builder was pretty handy. We continue to run an old 
version of eXist-db just for this purpose. We will create new apps using 
this old version and download the XAR package and install it on the 
newer versions of eXist-db we run in production.

Nick

On 5/30/24 1:38 AM, Michael Pilarski wrote:
> Hi Don,
>
> please see Joe's answer to this topic at 
> https://stackoverflow.com/a/70189542.
>
> Michael
>
> Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 01:43 Uhr schrieb John Reed <jr...@gm...>:
>
>     I believe that no longer is available with a later version because
>     of some kind of security problem. I would like that back. It was
>     great to be able to create an app without really thinking about it
>     and just building on top of what was there. I wish they would put
>     it back in the later version.
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>>     On May 29, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Don Smith via Exist-open
>>     <exi...@li...> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>     Hello everyone,
>>
>>     I've just installed eXist 6.2.0 on Windows 11.
>>
>>     * The DB is running
>>     * I'm logged in as Admin (eXide shows "Logged in as Admin")
>>
>>     In eXide, when I click on "Application" there is no "New
>>     Application" option available. The only menu options I see are:
>>
>>     * Download app
>>     * Synchronize
>>     * Live reload
>>
>>     I assume that something has gone wrong in the install but ??
>>
>>     I've looked through the Packages that are available to install
>>     and don't see anything there that looks like what I need. Is it
>>     possible the option has moved to a different location in 6.0.2?
>>     Is there another way to create a new application?
>>
>>     Any help is appreciated as this appears to be a complete show
>>     stopper (can't create new applications).
>>
>>     Don
>>
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[Exist-open] Replacing templates:surround for webapps

[Ralph C. <ra...@ra...>]

Hi all,

We've recently updated (long-overdue) our eXist instances, which has 
prompted me to check the latest documentation. I notice that the 
template:surround is deprecated, but I'm not clear about what it should 
be replaced with.

Our current apps use templates:surround with pointers to 
templates/_picktherelevantpage_.html.  Templates:surround is still 
declared in the updated shared resources templates.xql (assuming that 
has updated correctly) so there's no problem for now, but as we're 
building a new app at present it would be good to use whatever the new 
preferred method is. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Ralph

Re: [Exist-open] Don't Have "New Application" Option

[Michael P. <mic...@gm...>]

Hi Don,

please see Joe's answer to this topic at
https://stackoverflow.com/a/70189542.

Michael

Am Do., 30. Mai 2024 um 01:43 Uhr schrieb John Reed <jr...@gm...>:

> I believe that no longer is available with a later version because of some
> kind of security problem. I would like that back. It was great to be able
> to create an app without really thinking about it and just building on top
> of what was there. I wish they would put it back in the later version.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Don Smith via Exist-open <
> exi...@li...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello everyone,
>
> I've just installed eXist 6.2.0 on Windows 11.
>
> * The DB is running
> * I'm logged in as Admin (eXide shows "Logged in as Admin")
>
> In eXide, when I click on "Application" there is no "New Application"
> option available. The only menu options I see are:
>
> * Download app
> * Synchronize
> * Live reload
>
> I assume that something has gone wrong in the install but ??
>
> I've looked through the Packages that are available to install and don't
> see anything there that looks like what I need. Is it possible the option
> has moved to a different location in 6.0.2? Is there another way to
> create a new application?
>
> Any help is appreciated as this appears to be a complete show stopper
> (can't create new applications).
>
> Don
>
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Re: [Exist-open] Don't Have "New Application" Option

[John R. <jr...@gm...>]

I believe that no longer is available with a later version because of some kind of security problem. I would like that back. It was great to be able to create an app without really thinking about it and just building on top of what was there. I wish they would put it back in the later version.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Don Smith via Exist-open <exi...@li...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I've just installed eXist 6.2.0 on Windows 11. 
> 
> * The DB is running
> * I'm logged in as Admin (eXide shows "Logged in as Admin") 
> 
> In eXide, when I click on "Application" there is no "New Application" option available. The only menu options I see are:
> 
> * Download app
> * Synchronize
> * Live reload
> 
> I assume that something has gone wrong in the install but ??
> 
> I've looked through the Packages that are available to install and don't see anything there that looks like what I need. Is it possible the option has moved to a different location in 6.0.2? Is there another way to create a new application?
> 
> Any help is appreciated as this appears to be a complete show stopper (can't create new applications). 
> 
> Don
> 
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[Exist-open] Don't Have "New Application" Option

[Don S. <dsm...@ya...>]

Hello everyone,
I've just installed eXist 6.2.0 on Windows 11. 
* The DB is running* I'm logged in as Admin (eXide shows "Logged in as Admin") 
In eXide, when I click on "Application" there is no "New Application" option available. The only menu options I see are:
* Download app* Synchronize* Live reload
I assume that something has gone wrong in the install but ??
I've looked through the Packages that are available to install and don't see anything there that looks like what I need. Is it possible the option has moved to a different location in 6.0.2? Is there another way to create a new application?
Any help is appreciated as this appears to be a complete show stopper (can't create new applications). 
Don

Re: [Exist-open] Embedding PDF from file system in webpage

[Tony C. <t.c...@su...>]

Dear Jean-Paul,

Thanks, having read it twice that makes perfect sense. The file is available locally to a browser but (currently) is not accessible over the network, so I now understand what I have to fix.

Kind regards,
Tony



From: Jean-Paul Rehr <re...@gm...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 10:22 PM
To: Corless, Tony (Comp Sci & Elec Eng) <t.c...@su...>
Cc: exi...@li...
Subject: Re: [Exist-open] Embedding PDF from file system in webpage

Dear Tony,

The fact that your file on your file server is accessible to eXist is not really material, and is a distraction from the root cause of the problem.

Is your  variable $document a URL where the PDF can be accessed via the web?  If so, that link should work in a browser...so if you copy and paste it, the file shoud be available? If it is not, then the link is not correct, or your file server is not configured (with a proxy server) to serve files to the internet...

eXist is only transmitting a link to the browser via the attribute src;  it's the browser that acts upon the link that is in the attribute.

Cheers,
JPR



On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:18 PM Tony Corless via Exist-open <exi...@li...<mailto:exi...@li...>> wrote:
Apologies for bothering people, as the answer to this perhaps should be obvious to me.

For a while I have been using a query, as below, to display PDF documents with some header information that is stored as XML data in eXist.
To date, the PDFs have been small and stored in the eXist database or accessed from a remote server.

Now I have some much larger PDF documents that ideally I will keep in the local file system rather than in the database.
To achieve that I need to change the source in the <embed> below to access the document from the file system.

While I assumed that would be trivial my attempts to date have failed. Any pointer to the correct approach is welcome, as clearly I have misunderstood something.

(The file:exists function has confirmed that I have correct and accessible files in the file system, I can read these but have failed to render them as PDF.)


xquery version "3.1";
declare option exist:serialize "method=html media-type=text/html";
(: declare variable $documentName := request:get-parameter("documentName",()); :)

let $documentName :="1021-COP"

let $xmlCollection := collection("/db/apps/controlledDocuments/data/current")
let $document :=$xmlCollection[./document/documentName=$documentName]/document/documentLink

return
    <html>
        <body>
            <h1>Some info about {$documentName}</h1>
            <embed src='{$document}' style="width:100%;height:90%;"></embed>
        </body>
    </html>


Many thanks for any assistance.

Tony Corless


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[Exist-open] CFP Declarative Amsterdam 2024

[Erik S. <er...@xa...>]

Call for papers, Declarative Amsterdam conference, 2024

 

The sixth edition of Declarative Amsterdam will take place on 7 and 8 November, 2024 at the Science Park, Amsterdam. It will be a hybrid conference with the opportunity to attend live or online, for both attendees and presenters.

 

Declarative techniques are a style of computing that expresses the purpose of computation without describing its control flow. It allows you to focus on the ‘what’, rather than the ‘how’.

 

Declarative Amsterdam will have presentations on past experiences, current trends and future perspectives in fields such as functional programming, declarative data modelling, databases, XML and related technologies, JSON, CSS, semantic web, data science, data visualization, grammars, parsing, and domain-specific languages.

We invite practitioners, software architects and engineers, academic researchers and others to submit a proposal for a tutorial or a presentation.

Tutorials can be between 1.5 and 2.5 hours, and preferably include hands-on sessions for participants. 

 

Presentations on the second day can be between 20 and 45 minutes.

 

Speakers can present in person, or prepare a video, and be available online for the question-and-answer session afterwards.

 

Proposals should include a title, duration and summary (90 - 200 words), and may also include a full paper. 

 

Presenters have the option of submitting a full paper or slides, to be published on the Declarative Amsterdam website.

 

For papers and topics from previous years, see the website:  <https://declarative.amsterdam/> https://declarative.amsterdam/

 

Please submit your proposal at  <https://declarative.amsterdam/cfp> https://declarative.amsterdam/cfp

 

Timeline:

Submission deadline: 31 July

Acceptance: Beginning of September

Videos, tutorials, papers submission: Beginning of October

Conference: 7 and 8 November

 

Regards,

The Declarative Amsterdam organizing committee.

Re: [Exist-open] Embedding PDF from file system in webpage

[Jean-Paul R. <re...@gm...>]

Dear Tony,

The fact that your file on your file server is accessible to eXist is not
really material, and is a distraction from the root cause of the problem.

Is your  variable $document a URL where the PDF can be accessed via the
web?  If so, that link should work in a browser...so if you copy and paste
it, the file shoud be available? If it is not, then the link is not
correct, or your file server is not configured (with a proxy server) to
serve files to the internet...

eXist is only transmitting a link to the browser via the attribute src;
it's the browser that acts upon the link that is in the attribute.

Cheers,
JPR



On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:18 PM Tony Corless via Exist-open <
exi...@li...> wrote:

> Apologies for bothering people, as the answer to this perhaps should be
> obvious to me.
>
>
>
> For a while I have been using a query, as below, to display PDF documents
> with some header information that is stored as XML data in eXist.
>
> To date, the PDFs have been small and stored in the eXist database or
> accessed from a remote server.
>
>
>
> Now I have some much larger PDF documents that ideally I will keep in the
> local file system rather than in the database.
>
> To achieve that I need to change the source in the <embed> below to access
> the document from the file system.
>
>
>
> While I assumed that would be trivial my attempts to date have failed. Any
> pointer to the correct approach is welcome, as clearly I have misunderstood
> something.
>
>
>
> (The file:exists function has confirmed that I have correct and accessible
> files in the file system, I can read these but have failed to render them
> as PDF.)
>
>
>
>
>
> xquery version "3.1";
>
> declare option exist:serialize "method=html media-type=text/html";
>
> (: declare variable $documentName :=
> request:get-parameter("documentName",()); :)
>
>
>
> let $documentName :="1021-COP"
>
>
>
> let $xmlCollection :=
> collection("/db/apps/controlledDocuments/data/current")
>
> let $document
> :=$xmlCollection[./document/documentName=$documentName]/document/documentLink
>
>
>
> return
>
>     <html>
>
>         <body>
>
>             <h1>Some info about {$documentName}</h1>
>
>             <embed src='{$document}'
> style="width:100%;height:90%;"></embed>
>
>         </body>
>
>     </html>
>
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> *Tony Corless*
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Exist-open] Embedding PDF from file system in webpage

[Claudius T. <cla...@gm...>]

Separate fileserver (see https://caddyserver.com/) for those big PDFs.



On Tue, 14 May 2024, 23:18 Tony Corless via Exist-open, <
exi...@li...> wrote:

> Apologies for bothering people, as the answer to this perhaps should be
> obvious to me.
>
>
>
> For a while I have been using a query, as below, to display PDF documents
> with some header information that is stored as XML data in eXist.
>
> To date, the PDFs have been small and stored in the eXist database or
> accessed from a remote server.
>
>
>
> Now I have some much larger PDF documents that ideally I will keep in the
> local file system rather than in the database.
>
> To achieve that I need to change the source in the <embed> below to access
> the document from the file system.
>
>
>
> While I assumed that would be trivial my attempts to date have failed. Any
> pointer to the correct approach is welcome, as clearly I have misunderstood
> something.
>
>
>
> (The file:exists function has confirmed that I have correct and accessible
> files in the file system, I can read these but have failed to render them
> as PDF.)
>
>
>
>
>
> xquery version "3.1";
>
> declare option exist:serialize "method=html media-type=text/html";
>
> (: declare variable $documentName :=
> request:get-parameter("documentName",()); :)
>
>
>
> let $documentName :="1021-COP"
>
>
>
> let $xmlCollection :=
> collection("/db/apps/controlledDocuments/data/current")
>
> let $document
> :=$xmlCollection[./document/documentName=$documentName]/document/documentLink
>
>
>
> return
>
>     <html>
>
>         <body>
>
>             <h1>Some info about {$documentName}</h1>
>
>             <embed src='{$document}'
> style="width:100%;height:90%;"></embed>
>
>         </body>
>
>     </html>
>
>
>
>
>
> Many thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> *Tony Corless*
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

[Exist-open] Embedding PDF from file system in webpage

[Tony C. <t.c...@su...>]

Apologies for bothering people, as the answer to this perhaps should be obvious to me.

For a while I have been using a query, as below, to display PDF documents with some header information that is stored as XML data in eXist.
To date, the PDFs have been small and stored in the eXist database or accessed from a remote server.

Now I have some much larger PDF documents that ideally I will keep in the local file system rather than in the database.
To achieve that I need to change the source in the <embed> below to access the document from the file system.

While I assumed that would be trivial my attempts to date have failed. Any pointer to the correct approach is welcome, as clearly I have misunderstood something.

(The file:exists function has confirmed that I have correct and accessible files in the file system, I can read these but have failed to render them as PDF.)


xquery version "3.1";
declare option exist:serialize "method=html media-type=text/html";
(: declare variable $documentName := request:get-parameter("documentName",()); :)

let $documentName :="1021-COP"

let $xmlCollection := collection("/db/apps/controlledDocuments/data/current")
let $document :=$xmlCollection[./document/documentName=$documentName]/document/documentLink

return
    <html>
        <body>
            <h1>Some info about {$documentName}</h1>
            <embed src='{$document}' style="width:100%;height:90%;"></embed>
        </body>
    </html>


Many thanks for any assistance.

Tony Corless

[Exist-open] Any plans for an update to 6.2

[Jo C. <Jo....@ha...>]

Hi all,

As this release is now a bit more than a year old, some of the .jar files
in the release are going stale, particularly in respect of CVE findings.

Are there any plans in this respect?

Best, -- Jo

Re: [Exist-open] HTMX ? (anyone?)

[Joern T. <joe...@gm...>]

Hi Joe,

of course

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 7:12 PM Joe Wicentowski <jo...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Hank,
>
> I recently came across HTMX too and am also curious to hear if anyone has
> been using it. In particular, I wonder about its possible integration with
> Fore (cc/ Joern).
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 1:01 PM Hank Ratzesberger via Exist-open <
> exi...@li...> wrote:
>
>> Hello Exist (ential List)
>>
>> I've not been reading very closely, so sorry if I've missed this. I've
>> been in the DevOps space for the last five years, but looking at web
>> applications again.
>>
>> I don't recall if eXist has a HATEOS step/pipeline/transform but it seems
>> that's all that would be necessary to easily support htmx browser side
>> applications. These applications minimize JavaScript to only extending some
>> elements with attributes hx-get, hx-post, etc., that expect html responses,
>> and replace the content of the element or its parent.
>>
>> Anyone experimenting with this?
>>
>> https://htmx.org/
>>
>> Best,
>> Hank
>>
>> --
>> Hank R
>> i/o werx company
>> 831 252 0118
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Re: [Exist-open] HTMX ? (anyone?)

[Joern T. <joe...@gm...>]

Hi Joe, Hank,

of course you can use it with Fore - HOWEVER that makes no sense at all as
Fore can do much more than HTMX and why having 2 tools when you just need
one - it's like using 2 hammers for a single nail.

I'm not a fan of HTMX - and i'm not alone with my dislike and criticism.
Just look around e.g. on Medium... Sprinkling all these 'hx-' attributes on
HTML and ignoring that there's a standard for custom attributes feels like
the 90s. On top of that they even know and allow it making it even worse ->
data-hx-get. And if going declarative you should go the full way.


Besides that i think that it lacks a real data-binding, a solid concept for
calculations, their validation example is more than poor etc. etc. There
are some nice ideas but i don't understand the hype. Back in the days
people invented all kinds of stuff like this - nowadays there's a standard
for extending HTML and that's called Web Components.

Sorry if that sounds rather harsh but IMO they are not doing the idea of
declarativeness a favor cause it's just done poorly.

Joern


On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 7:12 PM Joe Wicentowski <jo...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Hank,
>
> I recently came across HTMX too and am also curious to hear if anyone has
> been using it. In particular, I wonder about its possible integration with
> Fore (cc/ Joern).
>
> Joe
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 1:01 PM Hank Ratzesberger via Exist-open <
> exi...@li...> wrote:
>
>> Hello Exist (ential List)
>>
>> I've not been reading very closely, so sorry if I've missed this. I've
>> been in the DevOps space for the last five years, but looking at web
>> applications again.
>>
>> I don't recall if eXist has a HATEOS step/pipeline/transform but it seems
>> that's all that would be necessary to easily support htmx browser side
>> applications. These applications minimize JavaScript to only extending some
>> elements with attributes hx-get, hx-post, etc., that expect html responses,
>> and replace the content of the element or its parent.
>>
>> Anyone experimenting with this?
>>
>> https://htmx.org/
>>
>> Best,
>> Hank
>>
>> --
>> Hank R
>> i/o werx company
>> 831 252 0118
>> _______________________________________________
>> Exist-open mailing list
>> Exi...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-open
>>
>

Re: [Exist-open] HTMX ? (anyone?)

[Joe W. <jo...@gm...>]

Hi Hank,

I recently came across HTMX too and am also curious to hear if anyone has
been using it. In particular, I wonder about its possible integration with
Fore (cc/ Joern).

Joe

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 1:01 PM Hank Ratzesberger via Exist-open <
exi...@li...> wrote:

> Hello Exist (ential List)
>
> I've not been reading very closely, so sorry if I've missed this. I've
> been in the DevOps space for the last five years, but looking at web
> applications again.
>
> I don't recall if eXist has a HATEOS step/pipeline/transform but it seems
> that's all that would be necessary to easily support htmx browser side
> applications. These applications minimize JavaScript to only extending some
> elements with attributes hx-get, hx-post, etc., that expect html responses,
> and replace the content of the element or its parent.
>
> Anyone experimenting with this?
>
> https://htmx.org/
>
> Best,
> Hank
>
> --
> Hank R
> i/o werx company
> 831 252 0118
> _______________________________________________
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>

[Exist-open] HTMX ? (anyone?)

[Hank R. <ha...@we...>]

Hello Exist (ential List)

I've not been reading very closely, so sorry if I've missed this. I've been
in the DevOps space for the last five years, but looking at web
applications again.

I don't recall if eXist has a HATEOS step/pipeline/transform but it seems
that's all that would be necessary to easily support htmx browser side
applications. These applications minimize JavaScript to only extending some
elements with attributes hx-get, hx-post, etc., that expect html responses,
and replace the content of the element or its parent.

Anyone experimenting with this?

https://htmx.org/

Best,
Hank

-- 
Hank R
i/o werx company
831 252 0118

Re: [Exist-open] eXist-db data directory on S3 bucket

[Joe W. <jo...@gm...>]

Hi Jo,

You may find this library package useful:

  https://github.com/HistoryAtState/aws.xq

It contains functions for listing buckets
<https://github.com/HistoryAtState/aws.xq/blob/main/content/s3-bucket.xqm>
and uploading and deleting objects
<https://github.com/HistoryAtState/aws.xq/blob/main/content/s3-object.xqm>.
It's currently geared around using temporary credentials supplied by AWS
(which I needed for my environment), but it could be adapted/relaxed to use
an access and secret key set that you supply.

Joe

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 8:14 AM Jo Calder <Jo....@ha...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A quick open question:  does anyone have any experience to share on using
> a mount of an S3 bucket to store eXist-db's data directory?
>
> Regards, -- Jo
>
>
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>

[Exist-open] eXist-db data directory on S3 bucket

[Jo C. <Jo....@ha...>]

Hi all,

A quick open question:  does anyone have any experience to share on using a
mount of an S3 bucket to store eXist-db's data directory?

Regards, -- Jo

Re: [Exist-open] How to index the files without uploading them in eXist DB

[Dr. V. J. <vjv...@gm...>]

Dear Claudius,

I think your idea is matching with my requirements and if it works, it can
be the solution I am looking for, but can you elaborate what do you mean
with these master files and where it will be (in db/master-files)?

If you can give some examples or link some resources where this concept is
explained, it would be really appreciated. Here I would like to mention, I
am very new to eXist-DB. I have just downloaded it, populated with some 100
files in a collection and able to do basic xquery commands. I have an
Oreilly "eXist" book by Erik Seigel, purchased today only so if in this
book it is explained somewhere or is there any web link which I can
read/look at? If you have time and can explain.

Thanks for the help and suggestion and looking forward to your reply.

Thanks & Regards,
Dr. Vandana Jha

Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)

Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
Karlsruhe, Germany.
E-mail: van...@ki...
http://www.scc.kit.edu

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:07 PM Claudius Teodorescu <
cla...@gm...> wrote:

> Dear Dr. Vandana Jha,
>
> Maybe would be helpful to have in eXist-DB some master files, arranged in
> what hierarchy you might consider as being adequate, and these master files
> to contain the information to be indexed by eXist-DB and path(s) to the
> PostgreSQL repository/
>
> You can generate these master files by using one or more XQuery scripts,
> and you can keep them synchronized with the PostgreSQL repository's files
> by running the XQuery script(s) periodically.
>
> Best regards,
> Claudius Teodorescu
>
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 at 11:42, Dr. VANDANA JHA <vjv...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Support Team,
>>
>> I have a repository of TEI-XML files stored in PostgreSQL and my
>> requirement is to index this file so that it can be queried for the line
>> number and chapter number of a particular word in the document.
>>
>> I guess, I can populate that same repository contents in eXist-DB and
>> then index it. But as this PostgreSQL repository is a small part of a big
>> project and due to other more important requirement, I have to keep this
>> repository.
>>
>> So my question is,
>> Is it possible to set somewhere path to this PostgreSQL repository in
>> eXist-DB and then use these stored file and directory structure in eXist-DB
>> to index/work with them? So here I want to skip the process of storing
>> these files again in eXist-DB. This will serve two purpose for me. First
>> the data will not be duplicated at two places so it will save the effort in
>> data consistency. Second, this data will be updated may be later and always
>> I want the data to be read from my postgreSQL and eXist DB should be doing
>> read only task and not write into these files so it will be perfect for me,
>> if by setting path, it reads from the original repository itself.
>>
>> Any help in this regard, will be really appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> Dr. Vandana Jha
>>
>> Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
>> Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
>> Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)
>>
>> Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
>> 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
>> Karlsruhe, Germany.
>> E-mail: van...@ki... <van...@ki...>
>> http://www.scc.kit.edu
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Exist-open mailing list
>> Exi...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-open
>>
>
>
> --
> Cu stimă,
> Claudius Teodorescu
>

Re: [Exist-open] How to index the files without uploading them in eXist DB

[Dr. V. J. <vjv...@gm...>]

Dear Craig,

As the files which I am storing are XML files, I need an XML database to
retrieve the contents. My requirements are not only full text search but it
might be required to retrieve some parts of XML in XML structure with some
predefined conditions. Right now, my data is stored in PostgreSQL, which is
getting indexed by ElasticSearch and later I have some GUI in java,
javascript and Springboot. ElasticSearch is not sufficient for some cases
so I am looking for XML database and may be get it working for all my
requirements and remove ElasticSearch requirement.

But thanks for bringing this up and posting me the helpful link.
Thanks & Regards,
Dr. Vandana Jha

Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)

Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
Karlsruhe, Germany.
E-mail: van...@ki...
http://www.scc.kit.edu

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:51 PM Craig Berry <cra...@ma...> wrote:

> Do your PostgreSQL tables have those line and chapter numbers?  If so, why
> not query them directly using full text search:
>
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/textsearch.html
>
> and avoid eXist altogether?
>
> That assumes that word search is the only feature of eXist you're
> interested in, which may not be the case.
>
> > On Mar 26, 2024, at 4:41 AM, Dr. VANDANA JHA <vjv...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Support Team,
> >
> > I have a repository of TEI-XML files stored in PostgreSQL and my
> requirement is to index this file so that it can be queried for the line
> number and chapter number of a particular word in the document.
> >
> > I guess, I can populate that same repository contents in eXist-DB and
> then index it. But as this PostgreSQL repository is a small part of a big
> project and due to other more important requirement, I have to keep this
> repository.
> >
> > So my question is,
> > Is it possible to set somewhere path to this PostgreSQL repository in
> eXist-DB and then use these stored file and directory structure in eXist-DB
> to index/work with them? So here I want to skip the process of storing
> these files again in eXist-DB. This will serve two purpose for me. First
> the data will not be duplicated at two places so it will save the effort in
> data consistency. Second, this data will be updated may be later and always
> I want the data to be read from my postgreSQL and eXist DB should be doing
> read only task and not write into these files so it will be perfect for me,
> if by setting path, it reads from the original repository itself.
> >
> > Any help in this regard, will be really appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards,Dr. Vandana Jha
> >  Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
> > Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
> > Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)
> >
> > Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
> > 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
> > Karlsruhe, Germany.
> > E-mail: van...@ki...
> > http://www.scc.kit.edu
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Exist-open mailing list
> > Exi...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-open
>
> ________________________________________
> Craig A. Berry
>
> "... getting out of a sonnet is much more
>  difficult than getting in."
>                  Brad Leithauser
>
>

Re: [Exist-open] How to index the files without uploading them in eXist DB

[Craig B. <cra...@ma...>]

Do your PostgreSQL tables have those line and chapter numbers?  If so, why not query them directly using full text search:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/textsearch.html

and avoid eXist altogether?

That assumes that word search is the only feature of eXist you're interested in, which may not be the case.  

> On Mar 26, 2024, at 4:41 AM, Dr. VANDANA JHA <vjv...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Dear Support Team,
> 
> I have a repository of TEI-XML files stored in PostgreSQL and my requirement is to index this file so that it can be queried for the line number and chapter number of a particular word in the document.
> 
> I guess, I can populate that same repository contents in eXist-DB and then index it. But as this PostgreSQL repository is a small part of a big project and due to other more important requirement, I have to keep this repository.
> 
> So my question is, 
> Is it possible to set somewhere path to this PostgreSQL repository in eXist-DB and then use these stored file and directory structure in eXist-DB to index/work with them? So here I want to skip the process of storing these files again in eXist-DB. This will serve two purpose for me. First the data will not be duplicated at two places so it will save the effort in data consistency. Second, this data will be updated may be later and always I want the data to be read from my postgreSQL and eXist DB should be doing read only task and not write into these files so it will be perfect for me, if by setting path, it reads from the original repository itself.
> 
> Any help in this regard, will be really appreciated.
> 
> Thanks & Regards,Dr. Vandana Jha
>  Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
> Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
> Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)
> 
> Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
> 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
> Karlsruhe, Germany.
> E-mail: van...@ki...
> http://www.scc.kit.edu
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Exist-open mailing list
> Exi...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-open

________________________________________
Craig A. Berry

"... getting out of a sonnet is much more
 difficult than getting in."
                 Brad Leithauser

Re: [Exist-open] How to index the files without uploading them in eXist DB

[Claudius T. <cla...@gm...>]

Dear Dr. Vandana Jha,

Maybe would be helpful to have in eXist-DB some master files, arranged in
what hierarchy you might consider as being adequate, and these master files
to contain the information to be indexed by eXist-DB and path(s) to the
PostgreSQL repository/

You can generate these master files by using one or more XQuery scripts,
and you can keep them synchronized with the PostgreSQL repository's files
by running the XQuery script(s) periodically.

Best regards,
Claudius Teodorescu

On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 at 11:42, Dr. VANDANA JHA <vjv...@gm...>
wrote:

> Dear Support Team,
>
> I have a repository of TEI-XML files stored in PostgreSQL and my
> requirement is to index this file so that it can be queried for the line
> number and chapter number of a particular word in the document.
>
> I guess, I can populate that same repository contents in eXist-DB and then
> index it. But as this PostgreSQL repository is a small part of a big
> project and due to other more important requirement, I have to keep this
> repository.
>
> So my question is,
> Is it possible to set somewhere path to this PostgreSQL repository in
> eXist-DB and then use these stored file and directory structure in eXist-DB
> to index/work with them? So here I want to skip the process of storing
> these files again in eXist-DB. This will serve two purpose for me. First
> the data will not be duplicated at two places so it will save the effort in
> data consistency. Second, this data will be updated may be later and always
> I want the data to be read from my postgreSQL and eXist DB should be doing
> read only task and not write into these files so it will be perfect for me,
> if by setting path, it reads from the original repository itself.
>
> Any help in this regard, will be really appreciated.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Dr. Vandana Jha
>
> Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
> Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
> Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)
>
> Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
> 76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
> Karlsruhe, Germany.
> E-mail: van...@ki... <van...@ki...>
> http://www.scc.kit.edu
>
> _______________________________________________
> Exist-open mailing list
> Exi...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-open
>


-- 
Cu stimă,
Claudius Teodorescu

[Exist-open] How to index the files without uploading them in eXist DB

[Dr. V. J. <vjv...@gm...>]

Dear Support Team,

I have a repository of TEI-XML files stored in PostgreSQL and my requirement is to index this file so that it can be queried for the line number and chapter number of a particular word in the document.

I guess, I can populate that same repository contents in eXist-DB and then index it. But as this PostgreSQL repository is a small part of a big project and due to other more important requirement, I have to keep this repository.

So my question is, 
Is it possible to set somewhere path to this PostgreSQL repository in eXist-DB and then use these stored file and directory structure in eXist-DB to index/work with them? So here I want to skip the process of storing these files again in eXist-DB. This will serve two purpose for me. First the data will not be duplicated at two places so it will save the effort in data consistency. Second, this data will be updated may be later and always I want the data to be read from my postgreSQL and eXist DB should be doing read only task and not write into these files so it will be perfect for me, if by setting path, it reads from the original repository itself.

Any help in this regard, will be really appreciated.

Thanks & Regards,
Dr. Vandana Jha
 
Data Exploitation Methods (DEM),
Scientific Computing Center (SCC),
Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT)

Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1
76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen
Karlsruhe, Germany.
E-mail: van...@ki...
http://www.scc.kit.edu <http://www.scc.kit.edu/>

Re: [Exist-open] Problems on a sample XRX applications

[John R. <jr...@gm...>]

Thank you very much Joern. I will try it, and I appreciate you making it
easy for us.

John

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 4:14 AM Joern Turner <joe...@gm...> wrote:

> Hey John,
>
> As a pure client-side framework Fore is independent of eXist-db and you
> can play with it outside of eXist.
>
> To quickly start to play with Fore there's 'fore-project' on Github -
> https://github.com/Jinntec/fore-project
>
> This gives you a simple webserver and also allows you to create some
> Cypress tests for your pages. To actually deploy this into an app you just
> have to move your html page, the fore css files and fore.js to appropriate
> locations in your xar and be done.
>
> However I also created an eXist-db app to make it even easier for eXist-db
> users but there's a HTML serialization bug in  eXide that unfortunately
> breaks Fore pages when used for editing. Other ways to deploy the HTML
> (e.g. via Oxygen or WebDav) should however work. I hope I can work that out
> and offer it via the eXist-db package repo.
>
> Joern
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:17 PM John Reed <jr...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Hello Joern, I would appreciate you creating a exist-db application. As a
>> beginner I am unfamiliar with making fore work. Thanks.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:49 AM Joern Turner <joe...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maurizio,
>>>
>>> for the XForms part you might also like to have a look at
>>> https://github.com/Jinntec/Fore which follows the lines of XForms but
>>> in pure HTML.
>>>
>>> I was preparing an eXist-db app showcasing it but due to time
>>> constraints wasn't able to roll it out yet.
>>>
>>> Though Fore is not 100% XForms (by intention) it should be very easy to
>>> port XForms code to Fore.
>>>
>>> hth,
>>>
>>> Joern
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:25 AM Maurizio Neri via Exist-open <
>>> exi...@li...> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>> I have downloaded and installed exist-db version 6.2.0 on my windows 7
>>>> laptop.
>>>> I installed also xsltforms application (samples application and
>>>> library)  and I have tried to make my first XRX application as is
>>>> described in
>>>>
>>>> "http://www.exist-db.org/exist/apps/doc/beginners-guide-to-xrx-v4".
>>>>
>>>> While list item and view item functions works as espected, the
>>>> application as is described in the article doesn't work for "search"
>>>> and
>>>> "insert a new item" operations.
>>>> Can anybody confirm the the code in the article is ok? Where can I get
>>>> other basic xrx sample application ?
>>>> Thank you for the attentions.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.
>>>> M_a_u_r_i_z_i_o
>>>> N_e_r_i
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>

Re: [Exist-open] Problems on a sample XRX applications - partially solved

[Joern T. <joe...@gm...>]

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 7:13 AM Maurizio Neri <mau...@io...>
wrote:

> Hello everybody!
>
> I've solved the most problematic problem that I had with the xrx example
> code - I was unable to store a new entry.
>
> The problem is in the edit.xq code: the instance in the model and the
> submit elements must be the same. So I had to change "my-task" into
> "save-data".
> I'm happy to ear that Fore is available and I 'll give it a try, when I
> can.
>
> I've used betterForm years ago and it was a wonderful tool, so I think
> Fore is surelly a great tool too.
>
Happy to hear - thanks. Of course Fore is even better ;) and much easier to
use.


> Thank you Joern!
>
>
> Best regards.
>
> M_a_u_r_i_z_i_o
> N_e_r_i
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 17/03/2024 13:47, Joern Turner ha scritto:
>
> Hi Maurizio,
>
> for the XForms part you might also like to have a look at
> https://github.com/Jinntec/Fore which follows the lines of XForms but in
> pure HTML.
>
> I was preparing an eXist-db app showcasing it but due to time constraints
> wasn't able to roll it out yet.
>
> Though Fore is not 100% XForms (by intention) it should be very easy to
> port XForms code to Fore.
>
> hth,
>
> Joern
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:25 AM Maurizio Neri via Exist-open <
> exi...@li...> wrote:
>
>> Hello everybody,
>> I have downloaded and installed exist-db version 6.2.0 on my windows 7
>> laptop.
>> I installed also xsltforms application (samples application and
>> library)  and I have tried to make my first XRX application as is
>> described in
>>
>> "http://www.exist-db.org/exist/apps/doc/beginners-guide-to-xrx-v4".
>>
>> While list item and view item functions works as espected, the
>> application as is described in the article doesn't work for "search" and
>> "insert a new item" operations.
>> Can anybody confirm the the code in the article is ok? Where can I get
>> other basic xrx sample application ?
>> Thank you for the attentions.
>>
>> Best regards.
>> M_a_u_r_i_z_i_o
>> N_e_r_i
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Exist-open mailing list
>> Exi...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/exist-open
>>
>