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Re: [Everydevel-opers] Two Points
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From: Nathan O. <noo...@co...> - 2009-01-23 15:55:37
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It's been dissolved since 2001, all the assets went back to the parent company, Blockstackers Intergalactic LLC --n On Jan 23, 2009, at 7:38 AM, pau...@us... wrote: > Hi Nate, > > Another question. "Everything Development, Inc" sounds like a > registered corporation. Is it still a registered corporation, or > was it > dissolved? > > Cheers, > > Paul > > Nathan Oostendorp wrote: >> Hey Paul, >> >> To address point #2, I agree that this list is pretty dead. I'd >> would >> encourage you to put these someplace public, like on a blog or >> everydevel (of course still sitting under my desk without network >> until >> the bastards at comcast fix our internet connection). This way >> people >> can just reply as they want to, without being list subscribers. >> >> I also think if you're really interested in keeping it alive long >> term >> you should consider "forking" or otherwise re-branding the project >> and >> then either doing regular releases, or making it a micro-packaged >> SVN-distributed project (ala ruby gems). "Everything Engine" has >> always >> been a kind of an ad-hoc name, and i think most of the people that >> have >> heard of it just associate it with Everything2, which I don't think >> is >> what you're ultimately aiming for. I think you need to reframe the >> fundamental pitch to say "HEY, WE'RE LIKE DRUPAL BUT PERL BUT ALSO >> BETTER BECAUSE WE DO X AND Y AND Z", since CMSs are a dime a dozen >> now. >> >> If there's anything I can do, please let me know. >> >> --n >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 9, 2009, at 4:31 AM, pau...@us... >> wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> Two points here: >>> >>> POINT ONE >>> ========= >>> >>> The latest thing I've been working on in everydevel is changing the >>> database structure for more normalisation. The good news is that >>> this >>> works. The bad news is that it is taking me longer than I thought >>> partly because I've had to do a lot of thinking and partly because >>> there >>> is no one to bounce ideas off. >>> >>> These changes in the db layer have to have knock on effects. I'll >>> give >>> you an example: permissions. >>> >>> As you know permissions in everydevel have five types r, w, x, d, >>> c and >>> there are four user types for each permission: owner, group, other, >>> guest. >>> >>> After my db redesign it is obvious that this is arbitrary and there >>> could be more permission types and user types. >>> >>> It is also has become obvious that nodes can't continue to 'know' >>> about >>> their own permissions. Because to do so they'd also have to >>> continue to >>> 'know' about any 'usertype' nodes in the nodebase to which they >>> belong. >>> This means that each and every node would have to have some sort of >>> aggregate behaviour as well as their standard behaviour. >>> >>> This of course is waaaay too complicated and indicates a design >>> problem. >>> >>> The solution is to change Security.pm into an object class that >>> negotiates permissions, or perhaps to make Security.pm a nodetype >>> that >>> has the job of negotiating access between the UI and the NodeBase. >>> >>> Anyway, the point is these knock on effects get a bit involved. >>> >>> >>> POINT TWO >>> ========= >>> >>> I'm not sure there's any point posting to this list any more, >>> because >>> I get barely any response and never any assistance .... then some >>> smartarse wonders why things are going so slowly.... >>> >>> Nonetheless, I'd really like to create enthusiasm for everydevel. >>> It is >>> afterall one of the few CMS which are perl based in a world where >>> PHP >>> rules in the space. The question is how to create this enthusiasm >>> and >>> where. >>> >>> Experience suggests it isn't here. But where? >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >>> It is the best place to buy or sell services for >>> just about anything Open Source. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Everydevel-opers mailing list >>> Eve...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/everydevel-opers >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by: > SourcForge Community > SourceForge wants to tell your story. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword > _______________________________________________ > Everydevel-opers mailing list > Eve...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/everydevel-opers |
