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RE: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. \(M. Lists\) <ha...@dp...>]

Ken,

I have just downloaded 5.0.3 and I will incorporate it in that - there are a
few changes I will make - like reducing the size of the IDT and then also
putting in the PIC and PIT init code.

I will try to get it to you this afternoon if possible

Regards

Hamish

-----Original Message-----
From: eth...@li...
[mailto:eth...@li...]On Behalf Of
Ken Yap
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Etherboot developers list
Cc: ha...@dp...
Subject: Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout


>The way I have done the implementation of the timer, it would be very
simple
>to move my timer code into the etherboot tree. It adds very little space
>overhead. Should I send patched code to you Ken?

Yes please, but wrt 5.0.3 if possible and tell me what I have to disable
in start32.S.

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Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[<ke...@us...>]

>The way I have done the implementation of the timer, it would be very simple
>to move my timer code into the etherboot tree. It adds very little space
>overhead. Should I send patched code to you Ken?

Yes please, but wrt 5.0.3 if possible and tell me what I have to disable
in start32.S.

RE: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. \(M. Lists\) <ha...@dp...>]

Eric, Ken,

The way I have done the implementation of the timer, it would be very simple
to move my timer code into the etherboot tree. It adds very little space
overhead. Should I send patched code to you Ken?

Regards

Hamish

-----Original Message-----
From: eth...@li...
[mailto:eth...@li...]On Behalf Of
Eric W. Biederman
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:09 PM
To: Etherboot developers list
Subject: Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout


ke...@us... (Ken Yap) writes:

> >Everything looks great except for the fact that I always get a TX
Timeout -
> >this is with both tulip and realtek cards. In the instance of the realtek
> >card, I get the following:
> >
> >tx timeout/error (0 ticks), status 0000 txstatus 0008024E
> >
> >Any ideas please?
>
> Looking at the code it seems that you must be timing out too soon.
> Maybe your tick counter is running too fast (it should be about 18.2
> ticks per second). Have you calibrated it?

Hmm.  I would also suggest you check to see if the device is being
enabled on the PCI bus.  That is is the pci command register
is the pci master bit being set?  Without this the card probably
cannot do DMA.  Which can cause all kinds of problems.

I know I had to implemented this for the 3com adapter I use.

Ken with these currticks would you have any problem if we moved the
timer implementation completely into etherboot.  That we don't get a
weird case that can only be used under linuxBIOS.

Eric

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RE: [Etherboot-users] Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. \(M. Lists\) <ha...@dp...>]

Eric,

The way I have done the implementation caters for this - originally,
whenever the currticks() was called, the code would switch to real mode -
giving the real mode ISR's time to play, then switch back to pmode - it
would then read the BIOS memory location for the clock tick.

In my implementation, I have the interrupts running correctly in PMODE, so I
never go back into real mode and the timer is running absolutely 100%.

I have found the area of the problem, but have not yet found out what the
cause is. Basically the problem is that the PCI IO resources are not being
handled correctly somewhere.

Essentially, it appears from DEBUG info that LinuxBIOS is allocating the IO
resources correctly, but when Etherboot scans the PCI config space, the IO
addresses are not correct and I cannot for the life of me figure out why at
the moment. I have enabled a LinuxBIOS debug level of 9, so I see each
individual calls to the PCI read and writes - and these appear to be
correct, however different to the old PCI code I was using when I originally
got things running (I had used a snapshot dating back from about December or
January I think). I now see this result:

Allocating PCI resources...COMPUTE_ALLOCATE: do IO
compute_allocate_io: base 0x1000
DEVIO: Bus 0x0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x0: iosize 0x8
-->set base to 0x1000
DEVIO: Bus 0x0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x1: iosize 0x4
-->set base to 0x1010
DEVIO: Bus 0x0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x2: iosize 0x8
-->set base to 0x1020
DEVIO: Bus 0x0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x3: iosize 0x4
-->set base to 0x1030
DEVIO: Bus 0x0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x4: iosize 0x10
-->set base to 0x1040
DEVIO: Bus 0x0, devfn 0xf0, reg 0x0: iosize 0x100
-->set base to 0x1050
BUS 0: set iolimit to 0x1fff
COMPUTE_ALLOCATE: do MEM
compute_allocate_mem: base 0x80000000
DEVMEM: Bus 0x0, devfn 0x70, reg 0x0: memsize 0x1000
-->set base to 0x80000000
DEVMEM: Bus 0x0, devfn 0xf0, reg 0x1: memsize 0x1000
-->set base to 0x80001000
BUS 0: set memlimit to 0x800fffff
COMPUTE_ALLOCATE: do PREFMEM
Compute_allocate_prefmem: base 0x80100000
BUS 0: set prefmemlimit to 0x800fffff
ASSIGN RESOURCES, bus 0
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x10, val 0x1001
Bus 0x0 devfn 0x68 reg 0x0 base to 0x1001
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x14, val 0x1011
Bus 0x0 devfn 0x68 reg 0x1 base to 0x1011
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x18, val 0x1021
Bus 0x0 devfn 0x68 reg 0x2 base to 0x1021
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x1c, val 0x1031
Bus 0x0 devfn 0x68 reg 0x3 base to 0x1031
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0x68, reg 0x20, val 0x1041
Bus 0x0 devfn 0x68 reg 0x4 base to 0x1041
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0x70, reg 0x10, val 0x80000000
Bus 0x0 devfn 0x70 reg 0x0 base to 0x80000000
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0xf0, reg 0x10, val 0x1051
Bus 0x0 devfn 0xf0 reg 0x0 base to 0x1051
Write config dword bus 0, devfn 0xf0, reg 0x14, val 0x80001000
Bus 0x0 devfn 0xf0 reg 0x1 base to 0x80001000

Just to let you know, devfn 0x68 is the IDE controller, 0x70 is the USB
controller and 0xf0 is the Ethernet controller.

Now after having spend about 8 hours finding out that the IDE cable on my
development plaform was screwed, I have managed to get use a root filesystm
from a hard drive so I can use lspci etc, but when the kernel boots I have
this in the PCI config space:

PCI: Allocating resources
PCI: Resource 00001000-00001007 (f=101, d=0, p=0)
PCI: Resource 00001010-00001013 (f=101, d=0, p=0)
PCI: Resource 00001020-00001027 (f=101, d=0, p=0)
PCI: Resource 00001030-00001033 (f=101, d=0, p=0)
PCI: Resource 00001040-0000104f (f=101, d=0, p=0)
PCI: Resource 80000000-80000fff (f=200, d=0, p=0)
PCI: Resource 00001000-000010ff (f=101, d=0, p=0)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*****************
PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 00:1e.0
PCI: Resource 80001000-800010ff (f=200, d=0, p=0)
  got res[1400:14ff] for resource 0 of PCI device 1317:0981

Now notice that when Linux read the PCI config space, the IO region for the
ethernet controller has been detected as being 0x1000-0x10ff, and thus
overlapping with the IO region of the IDE controller. Very, very weird - I
will now go poking through the IO allocation code of LinuxBIOS and see what
is happening.

What I was finding with etherboot is that I was getting this same IO
allocation and this is obviously the reason for that not working.

Regards

Hamish

-----Original Message-----
From: eth...@li...
[mailto:eth...@li...]On Behalf Of
Eric W. Biederman
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 12:19 PM
To: Etherboot users list
Cc: Etherboot Developers
Subject: Re: [Etherboot-users] Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout


ke...@us... writes:

> >Just so long as you aren't adverse to handling interrupts in etherboot
> >:)
>
> Just as long I don't have to do the testing. :-)

Not a problem...

> >Actually now that I think about it I'm curious how does etherboot
> >while in protected mode allow the BIOS to handle interrupts in real
> >mode?  Hmm. I'll have to look.
>
> Everytime it does a BIOS call it goes into real mode and interrupts get
> handled then. So this is whenever it's outputing a character, waiting
> for input, or waiting for a timeout to end.  At all other times, it's in
> protected mode and interrupts are disabled. That's why there's no code
> to set up the PM IDT.

O.k.  This may be the problem Hamish was seeing.  As we don't have
any BIOS services with linuxBIOS etherboot never even attempts
to do BIOS calls.  Though that would tent to cause timeouts to
never occur instead of having them occur to late.

I guess it could also lead to timeouts that are two short in the
ehterboot code if interrupts are disabled for multiple clock ticks.

O.k.  Time to stop and read the code.

Eric



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Re: [Etherboot-users] Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[<ebi...@ln...>]

ke...@us... writes:

> >Just so long as you aren't adverse to handling interrupts in etherboot
> >:)
> 
> Just as long I don't have to do the testing. :-)

Not a problem...
 
> >Actually now that I think about it I'm curious how does etherboot
> >while in protected mode allow the BIOS to handle interrupts in real
> >mode?  Hmm. I'll have to look.
> 
> Everytime it does a BIOS call it goes into real mode and interrupts get
> handled then. So this is whenever it's outputing a character, waiting
> for input, or waiting for a timeout to end.  At all other times, it's in
> protected mode and interrupts are disabled. That's why there's no code
> to set up the PM IDT.

O.k.  This may be the problem Hamish was seeing.  As we don't have
any BIOS services with linuxBIOS etherboot never even attempts
to do BIOS calls.  Though that would tent to cause timeouts to
never occur instead of having them occur to late.

I guess it could also lead to timeouts that are two short in the
ehterboot code if interrupts are disabled for multiple clock ticks.

O.k.  Time to stop and read the code.

Eric

[Etherboot-developers] Etherboot 5.0.3 (production) released

[<ke...@us...>]

I have released Etherboot 5.0.3 (sources and documentation) at
http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/distribution.html

Please note that new releases will no longer appear in the FTP area as
Sourceforge is phasing out FTP fetching.

Changes from 5.1.1 (development) are:

+ All the changes from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1 carried over.

+ The rotating bar progress display has been replaced by a sequence of
dots, one for each transmitted packet. This is kinder to dumb displays,
e.g. serial terminals, and gives a better feel for how the loading is 
going. If you want the rotating bar, use -DBAR_PROGRESS.

+ In loader.S change .fill 0x18-(.-_start) to .org 0x18. Might help
people having errors assembling it.

+ Do Jong Gwan found a 3Com 980 with PCI ID 0x9805. Added to config.c
and NIC. Added for good measure 0x7646 which is listed as 3CSOHO100-TX
in Linux kernel 3c59x.c.

+ Add a rule to the Makefile to check for gcc 2.96, which is buggy, and
tell the user to use kgcc instead if found.

+ Till Straumann added long-needed code to warn when fragmented packets
seen (encountered on a wireless link) and to do UDP packet checksumming.

+ A trio of patches from Klaus Espenlaub, to fix a lance ring pointer
error in lance.c, to fix a format error in the multiboot call in
osloader.c and a patch to enable powersaving while waiting (good for
compute clusters and VMware), this one requiring the new option
-DPOWERSAVE in compiles.

+ While we are adding compile options, -DFLOPPY has been renamed to
-DCAN_BOOT_DISK as FLOPPY has been a misnomer ever since the ability to
boot /dev/hdX and /dev/sdX was added.

+ Spurred by correspondence from Till Straumann and Klaus Espenlaub,
hacked printf to not require a buffer. Now printf output can be
arbitrarily long as it no longer needs a buffer to assemble the
characters before sending to putchar; it outputs on the spot for
non-format chars and %s items, and at the end of the item for non-%s
items.

+ DRIVER AND EXTENSION WRITERS NOTE! (s)printf formats have been changed
to be a subset of those in glibc to reduce confusion. The changes are %x
-> %hX, %b -> %hhX, and %I -> %@. Lower case x formats are also
available now. The only variances from glibc are %@ for dotted quad IP
addresses (formerly %I; %I is now used), %! for 6 byte Ethernet
addresses, and that printf returns void. Thanks to Klaus Espenlaub for
assistance on this, after adding the %! format, he cleaned up all of the
Ethernet address display code in the drivers.

+ More cleanup patches from Klaus Espenlaub (he's better than lint;
people who have used Bell Labs Unix will know what lint is). Changes
noted here for posterity.

3c509.c: consistent non-use of # modifier for debugging output
3c595.c: consistent non-use of # modifier for debugging output
3c90x.c: use optimal %x variant, PCI bus/function numbers are always small
Config: Replace a TAB by two spaces inside the descriptions
eepro100.c: 6->ETH_ALEN, PCI bus/function numbers are always small
floppy.c: optimal %x variant
genrules.pl: consistent use of TAB characters
i82586.c: the ENET address printing patch for the EXOS205 got lost somehow....
main.c: cleanup of the UDP_CHECKSUM comment some editor messed up, make the
    assembly fragment use the normal formatting, fix the register assignment
    specification for the %bx register to use the "b" constraint instead of
    "bx" - the x makes no sense...
natsemi.c: %X case fix...
ns8390.c: optimal %x variant
pci.c: fix bad Linux port (most messages truncated the hex values)
sis900.c: a value read with inl() should probably(!) be printed with %X
start32.S: move around the #endifs a little
timer.c: fix space/tab characters
via-rhine.c: all values "printed" inside the comments are 32 bit integers
wd89c840.c: PCI bus/function numbers are always small

MD5 sums:

07a3acb536e1fb4488f5f6fd25fa628b  etherboot-5.0.3.tar.bz2
0d1d2ec47102ad8ad4b6ce5a4b2d60da  etherboot-5.0.3.tar.gz
8d7bb9494447ea7c6836d008688f0324  patch-5.0.3.gz
772710bc4089449a00f86b47a63e9a47  etherboot-doc-5.0.3.tar.bz2
d74c8539e46f8d4dbe25d1f71b596d65  etherboot-doc-5.0.3.tar.gz

SHA1 sums:

37904126c23adae79c023f4e50b08af0beb0f0f1  etherboot-5.0.3.tar.bz2
941c88010109aee966ca93ffce523db1644f074b  etherboot-5.0.3.tar.gz
46f3b569e6044a4f23dae6ff031309916fcb521c  patch-5.0.3.gz
0f8b95471627826e2b32fd730efbf503fb9f9526  etherboot-doc-5.0.3.tar.bz2
06a4584f209522d330c36b4fe7ba92a831fcd8a0  etherboot-doc-5.0.3.tar.gz

[Etherboot-developers] lzlilo and GRUB

[Gregg C L. <dr...@wo...>]

Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
And for my credits, has anyone gotten a lzlilo card image to boot under
GRUB, instead of the machine's lilo entries?
I ask this question for two reasons, one of them is that I prefer to use
GRUB on my Intel boxes, and two, because the functionality inside Etherboot
is interesting, and just plain worth a try. Oh, and the cards would have to
be made by 3COM, and with your choice of names.
Gregg C Levine dr...@wo...
"How many floors does this TARDIS of yours have, anyway?"

Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[<ebi...@ln...>]

ke...@us... (Ken Yap) writes:

> >Everything looks great except for the fact that I always get a TX Timeout -
> >this is with both tulip and realtek cards. In the instance of the realtek
> >card, I get the following:
> >
> >tx timeout/error (0 ticks), status 0000 txstatus 0008024E
> >
> >Any ideas please?
> 
> Looking at the code it seems that you must be timing out too soon.
> Maybe your tick counter is running too fast (it should be about 18.2
> ticks per second). Have you calibrated it?

Hmm.  I would also suggest you check to see if the device is being
enabled on the PCI bus.  That is is the pci command register
is the pci master bit being set?  Without this the card probably
cannot do DMA.  Which can cause all kinds of problems.

I know I had to implemented this for the 3com adapter I use.

Ken with these currticks would you have any problem if we moved the
timer implementation completely into etherboot.  That we don't get a
weird case that can only be used under linuxBIOS.

Eric

RE: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. \(M. Lists\) <ha...@dp...>]

Ken,

I think I am onto the problem - for some very strange reason the LinuxBIOS
PCI resource allocation is screwing up, and it looks like all the PCI
devices are being allocated the same IO address.

Regards

Hamish

-----Original Message-----
From: eth...@li...
[mailto:eth...@li...]On Behalf Of
Ken Yap
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:32 PM
To: Etherboot developers list
Subject: Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout


>I have checked it out, it is running at 18.2 ticks a second - well I get
182
>ticks in 10 seconds!
>
>I will do some more checking in the code

Does currticks return a monotonically increasing unsigned long? It
should.

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RE: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. \(M. Lists\) <ha...@dp...>]

Yes

-----Original Message-----
From: eth...@li...
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Ken Yap
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:32 PM
To: Etherboot developers list
Subject: Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout


>I have checked it out, it is running at 18.2 ticks a second - well I get
182
>ticks in 10 seconds!
>
>I will do some more checking in the code

Does currticks return a monotonically increasing unsigned long? It
should.

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Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[<ke...@us...>]

>I have checked it out, it is running at 18.2 ticks a second - well I get 182
>ticks in 10 seconds!
>
>I will do some more checking in the code

Does currticks return a monotonically increasing unsigned long? It
should.

RE: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. \(M. Lists\) <ha...@dp...>]

Hi Ken,

I have checked it out, it is running at 18.2 ticks a second - well I get 182
ticks in 10 seconds!

I will do some more checking in the code

Regards

Hamish

-----Original Message-----
From: eth...@li...
[mailto:eth...@li...]On Behalf Of
Ken Yap
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:51 PM
To: Etherboot developers list
Subject: Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout


>Everything looks great except for the fact that I always get a TX Timeout -
>this is with both tulip and realtek cards. In the instance of the realtek
>card, I get the following:
>
>tx timeout/error (0 ticks), status 0000 txstatus 0008024E
>
>Any ideas please?

Looking at the code it seems that you must be timing out too soon.
Maybe your tick counter is running too fast (it should be about 18.2
ticks per second). Have you calibrated it?

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Re: [Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[<ke...@us...>]

>Everything looks great except for the fact that I always get a TX Timeout -
>this is with both tulip and realtek cards. In the instance of the realtek
>card, I get the following:
>
>tx timeout/error (0 ticks), status 0000 txstatus 0008024E
>
>Any ideas please?

Looking at the code it seems that you must be timing out too soon.
Maybe your tick counter is running too fast (it should be about 18.2
ticks per second). Have you calibrated it?

[Etherboot-developers] TX Timeout

[Hamish G. <ha...@dp...>]

Hi,

I have been working on getting etherboot running on 486 type processors
under LinuxBIOS. The issue with the 486 is that it does not have tsc, so in
LinuxBIOS I have set up a timer ISR (in PMODE) and slightly modified the
etherboot code to use this timer.

Everything looks great except for the fact that I always get a TX Timeout -
this is with both tulip and realtek cards. In the instance of the realtek
card, I get the following:

tx timeout/error (0 ticks), status 0000 txstatus 0008024E

Any ideas please?

Regards

Hamish

[Etherboot-developers] Mknbi 1.2-4 (production) released

[<ke...@us...>]

I have released Mknbi 1.2-4 at
http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/distribution.html

Changes in this release from 1.2-3:

+ Hyun-Joon Cha discovered a trivial bug in 1.2-3.  The kernel
parameters are inserted twice, which may lead to overflow of the
parameter space.

+ A new (s)printf which does not limit the length of the output is now
used.

[Etherboot-developers] Mknbi-1.2-3 (production) released

[<ke...@us...>]

I have released Mknbi 1.2-3 at
http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/distribution.html

Changes in this release from 1.2-2 are:

+ Added the --rdbase option to mknbi-linux, for specifying the memory
location of the ramdisk.

+ Added some tips by Phil Davey on creating bootable MSDOS images.

+ Henk van de Kamer pointed out that 2.88 MB floppies actually have 80
tracks and 36 sectors instead of 160/18. It doesn't matter for network
booting, but I changed it to reduce confusion.

+ Merged in changes by Peter Lister to support --rootmode=rw|ro.

+ Round down top of memory as returned by memory sizing routine to next
lower 4kB boundary to make sure that ramdisk will be aligned properly.

+ Implement missing functionality per spec: appending additional kernel
options from the vendor selection. RFC1533_VENDOR_SEL option holds value
of tag that holds the options string. If the 7th argument exists, append
it to kernel options after the global options, but before keyword=value
substitutions.

[Etherboot-developers] Re: LinuxWorld Expo, SF, Etherboot Project preparations

[Christoph P. <chr...@al...>]

Hello !

Great thing !!
I cannot help you, I am sitting in Austria (Vienna), but I think,
it's great, that the etherboot project is there ...

A further word to this event.

I really like etherboot ! But my perfect diskless or what-ever
machine has always `etherboot' + `GRUB'.

I really like both ! And therefore I helped to make a DISKLESS
GRUB using `etherboot' and in the beginning `netboot'.

I really like the combination ! This make the perfect machine
loading kernels from whereever you want. Using the etherboot
menu or simple the load message ("Locally (L) or from network (N)")
then load the GRUB locally or from netwrok, or leave the the machine
locally untouched and load GRUB via etherboot and further select
from menu to load locally or from net.

Further no mknbi, ... etc, is never necessary. GRUB is built also
as "nbgrub" ready for etherboot, and users can simple load ELF
kernels
without any preperations and giving command line parameters as you
want. The user can decide to use a INITRD or not while booting !

So I think it is really a good idea, to show this to the people,
too. This is the perfect diskless system then !! Also perfect for
embedded systems !!

Etherboot and GRUB should work together, two teams of specialists.
I do not belong to any team. I try to help here and there ...

With friendly regards

       Christoph Plattner

>Marty Connor wrote:
>> 
>> Alright, it's that time again, time for us to prepare for
LinuxWorld 
Expo
>> in beautiful San Francisco, CA, USA!!
>> 
>> This year (in a rare US appearance) featuring "LIVE AND IN
PERSON" (and
>> all the way from Sydney Australia), our Fearless Leader,
>> 
>>    Ken Yap, himself!!!
>> 
>>(now you MUST attend! :-)
>>
>>This is our second LinuxWorld Expo, and you can check out a report
from 
>>our first one at:
>>
>>   http://www.thinguin.org/linuxworldny2001/
>>
>>It's a great show, and it's a lot of fun to meet people, demonstrate
>>Etherboot and thin/diskless client technology. (and there are even
other 
>>vendor, booths, and talks to check out, I hear :-)
>>
>>The LinuxWorld Expo site is at:
>>
>>  http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
>>
>>and of course the Etherboot site is at:
>>
>>   http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>At the first show, we shared a booth with LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org/
) .  
>>At this show, both LTSP and Etherboot have their own booths!!   >>This
is 
>>great because we will be able to reach more people and demo more
neat 
>>stuff that can be done.
>>
>>Now, because this is of course an all-volunteer effort, we are
asking for 
>>volunteers to help at the booth, and to visit us, and to bring us 
>>refreshments so we don't lose our voices as fast from all the
questions 
>>and demos :-)
>>
>>We have some free exhibits-only passes to LinuxWorld Expo, and if
you 
>>send me your postal address, I will mail you a pass to the exhibit
hall 
>>(a $25 value!! :-) 
>>
>>I've also reactivated the etherboot-tradeshow-talk list.  If you'd
like 
>>to subscribe, send a message to:
>>
>>    req...@li...
>>
>>with body
>>
>>    subscribe etherboot-tradeshow-talk
>>
>>and you'll be on the list.  
>>
>>This should be a fun show, and to give you some idea of how it goes,
the 
>>exhibit hall at LinuxWorld Expo (http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/) is
open:
>>
>>   Tue, Aug 28, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
>>   Wed, Aug 29, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
>>   Thu, Aug 30, 2001   10:00-16:00 (4pm)
>>
>>The Etherboot Project booth is #269  and the LTSP (#367) is just
around 
>>the corner.  Too bad we don't have wireless PCMCIA Etherbooting
working 
>>yet :-)
>>
>>So that's a beginning.  I'm sure there will be a lot to talk about
in the 
>>coming month before the show.
>>
>>Even if you can't make it to the show, visit us vicariously on the
web.  
>>If possible we'll have a webcam going at the show again.  We're also
>>looking for any ideas for the booth.  We will likely have a server
and 
>>two demo thin clients, of course the 4x8 ft banner, and the webcam,
and 
>>(did I mention) KEN YAP, ALIVE AND IN PERSON? :-)
>>
>>World Domination... and fast! :-)
>>
>>Marty
>>
>>---
>>    Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot images instantly.
>>
>>   Name: Marty Connor
>>US Mail: Entity Cyber, Inc.; P.O. Box 391827; Cambridge, MA 02139;
>>USA
>>  Voice: (617) 491-6935, Fax: (617) 491-7046 
>>  Email: md...@th...
>>    Web: http://www.thinguin.org/
>>
>>
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[Etherboot-developers] Re: LinuxWorld Expo, SF, Etherboot Project preparations

[Christoph P. <chr...@al...>]

Hello !

Great thing !!
I cannot help you, I am sitting in Austria (Vienna), but I think, it's
great, that the etherboot project is there ...

A further word to this event.

I really like etherboot ! But my perfect diskless or what-ever machine
has always `etherboot' + `GRUB'.

I really like both ! And it was my work (initially) to make a DISKLESS
GRUB 
using `etherboot' and in the beginning `netboot'.

I really like the combination ! This make the perfect machine loading
kernels from whereever you want. Using the etherboot menu or simple the
load message ("Locally (L) or from network (N)") then load the GRUB 
locally or from netwrok, or leave the the machine locally untouched and
load GRUB via etherboot and further select from menu to load locally
or from net.

Further no mknbi, ... etc, is never necessary. GRUB is built also
as "nbgrub" ready for etherboot, and users can simple load ELF kernels
without any preperations and giving command line parameters as you
want. The user can decide to use a INITRD or not while booting !

So I think it is really a good idea, to show this to the people,
too. This is the perfect diskless system then !! Also perfect for
embedded systems !!

Etherboot and GRUB should work together, two teams of specialists.
I do not belong to any team. I try to help here and there ...

With friendly regards

	Christoph Plattner



Marty Connor wrote:
> 
> Alright, it's that time again, time for us to prepare for LinuxWorld Expo
> in beautiful San Francisco, CA, USA!!
> 
> This year (in a rare US appearance) featuring "LIVE AND IN PERSON" (and
> all the way from Sydney Australia), our Fearless Leader,
> 
>    Ken Yap, himself!!!
> 
> (now you MUST attend! :-)
> 
> This is our second LinuxWorld Expo, and you can check out a report from
> our first one at:
> 
>    http://www.thinguin.org/linuxworldny2001/
> 
> It's a great show, and it's a lot of fun to meet people, demonstrate
> Etherboot and thin/diskless client technology. (and there are even other
> vendor, booths, and talks to check out, I hear :-)
> 
> The LinuxWorld Expo site is at:
> 
>    http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
> 
> and of course the Etherboot site is at:
> 
>    http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/
> 
> At the first show, we shared a booth with LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org/) .
> At this show, both LTSP and Etherboot have their own booths!!   This is
> great because we will be able to reach more people and demo more neat
> stuff that can be done.
> 
> Now, because this is of course an all-volunteer effort, we are asking for
> volunteers to help at the booth, and to visit us, and to bring us
> refreshments so we don't lose our voices as fast from all the questions
> and demos :-)
> 
> We have some free exhibits-only passes to LinuxWorld Expo, and if you
> send me your postal address, I will mail you a pass to the exhibit hall
> (a $25 value!! :-)
> 
> I've also reactivated the etherboot-tradeshow-talk list.  If you'd like
> to subscribe, send a message to:
> 
>     req...@li...
> 
> with body
> 
>     subscribe etherboot-tradeshow-talk
> 
> and you'll be on the list.
> 
> This should be a fun show, and to give you some idea of how it goes, the
> exhibit hall at LinuxWorld Expo (http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/) is open:
> 
>    Tue, Aug 28, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
>    Wed, Aug 29, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
>    Thu, Aug 30, 2001   10:00-16:00 (4pm)
> 
> The Etherboot Project booth is #269  and the LTSP (#367) is just around
> the corner.  Too bad we don't have wireless PCMCIA Etherbooting working
> yet :-)
> 
> So that's a beginning.  I'm sure there will be a lot to talk about in the
> coming month before the show.
> 
> Even if you can't make it to the show, visit us vicariously on the web.
> If possible we'll have a webcam going at the show again.  We're also
> looking for any ideas for the booth.  We will likely have a server and
> two demo thin clients, of course the 4x8 ft banner, and the webcam, and
> (did I mention) KEN YAP, ALIVE AND IN PERSON? :-)
> 
> World Domination... and fast! :-)
> 
> Marty
> 
> ---
>     Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot images instantly.
> 
>    Name: Marty Connor
> US Mail: Entity Cyber, Inc.; P.O. Box 391827; Cambridge, MA 02139; USA
>   Voice: (617) 491-6935, Fax: (617) 491-7046
>   Email: md...@th...
>     Web: http://www.thinguin.org/
> 
> ===========================================================================
> This Mail was sent to netboot mailing list by:
> Marty Connor <md...@th...>
> To get help about this list, send a mail with 'help' as the only string in
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[Etherboot-developers] Re: LinuxWorld Expo, SF, Etherboot Project preparations

[Matt <ma...@ne...>]

Do you know how to get a booth?

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----- Original Message -----
From: Marty Connor <md...@th...>
To: Etherboot Users
<eth...@li...>; Etherboot
Developers <eth...@li...>;
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Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: LinuxWorld Expo, SF, Etherboot Project
preparations


>
> Alright, it's that time again, time for us to prepare
for LinuxWorld Expo
> in beautiful San Francisco, CA, USA!!
>
> This year (in a rare US appearance) featuring "LIVE
AND IN PERSON" (and
> all the way from Sydney Australia), our Fearless
Leader,
>
>    Ken Yap, himself!!!
>
> (now you MUST attend! :-)
>
> This is our second LinuxWorld Expo, and you can check
out a report from
> our first one at:
>
>    http://www.thinguin.org/linuxworldny2001/
>
> It's a great show, and it's a lot of fun to meet
people, demonstrate
> Etherboot and thin/diskless client technology. (and
there are even other
> vendor, booths, and talks to check out, I hear :-)
>
> The LinuxWorld Expo site is at:
>
>    http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
>
> and of course the Etherboot site is at:
>
>    http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/
>
> At the first show, we shared a booth with LTSP
(http://www.ltsp.org/) .
> At this show, both LTSP and Etherboot have their own
booths!!   This is
> great because we will be able to reach more people and
demo more neat
> stuff that can be done.
>
> Now, because this is of course an all-volunteer
effort, we are asking for
> volunteers to help at the booth, and to visit us, and
to bring us
> refreshments so we don't lose our voices as fast from
all the questions
> and demos :-)
>
> We have some free exhibits-only passes to LinuxWorld
Expo, and if you
> send me your postal address, I will mail you a pass to
the exhibit hall
> (a $25 value!! :-)
>
> I've also reactivated the etherboot-tradeshow-talk
list.  If you'd like
> to subscribe, send a message to:
>
>     req...@li...
>
> with body
>
>     subscribe etherboot-tradeshow-talk
>
> and you'll be on the list.
>
> This should be a fun show, and to give you some idea
of how it goes, the
> exhibit hall at LinuxWorld Expo
(http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/) is open:
>
>    Tue, Aug 28, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
>    Wed, Aug 29, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
>    Thu, Aug 30, 2001   10:00-16:00 (4pm)
>
> The Etherboot Project booth is #269  and the LTSP
(#367) is just around
> the corner.  Too bad we don't have wireless PCMCIA
Etherbooting working
> yet :-)
>
> So that's a beginning.  I'm sure there will be a lot
to talk about in the
> coming month before the show.
>
> Even if you can't make it to the show, visit us
vicariously on the web.
> If possible we'll have a webcam going at the show
again.  We're also
> looking for any ideas for the booth.  We will likely
have a server and
> two demo thin clients, of course the 4x8 ft banner,
and the webcam, and
> (did I mention) KEN YAP, ALIVE AND IN PERSON? :-)
>
> World Domination... and fast! :-)
>
> Marty
>
> ---
>     Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot
images instantly.
>
>    Name: Marty Connor
> US Mail: Entity Cyber, Inc.; P.O. Box 391827;
Cambridge, MA 02139; USA
>   Voice: (617) 491-6935, Fax: (617) 491-7046
>   Email: md...@th...
>     Web: http://www.thinguin.org/
>
>
>
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===================
> This Mail was sent to netboot mailing list by:
> Marty Connor <md...@th...>
> To get help about this list, send a mail with 'help'
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[Etherboot-developers] LinuxWorld Expo, SF, Etherboot Project preparations

[Marty C. <md...@th...>]

Alright, it's that time again, time for us to prepare for LinuxWorld Expo 
in beautiful San Francisco, CA, USA!!

This year (in a rare US appearance) featuring "LIVE AND IN PERSON" (and 
all the way from Sydney Australia), our Fearless Leader, 

   Ken Yap, himself!!! 

(now you MUST attend! :-)

This is our second LinuxWorld Expo, and you can check out a report from 
our first one at:

   http://www.thinguin.org/linuxworldny2001/

It's a great show, and it's a lot of fun to meet people, demonstrate 
Etherboot and thin/diskless client technology. (and there are even other 
vendor, booths, and talks to check out, I hear :-)

The LinuxWorld Expo site is at:

   http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/

and of course the Etherboot site is at:

   http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/

At the first show, we shared a booth with LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org/) .  
At this show, both LTSP and Etherboot have their own booths!!   This is 
great because we will be able to reach more people and demo more neat 
stuff that can be done.

Now, because this is of course an all-volunteer effort, we are asking for 
volunteers to help at the booth, and to visit us, and to bring us 
refreshments so we don't lose our voices as fast from all the questions 
and demos :-)

We have some free exhibits-only passes to LinuxWorld Expo, and if you 
send me your postal address, I will mail you a pass to the exhibit hall 
(a $25 value!! :-) 

I've also reactivated the etherboot-tradeshow-talk list.  If you'd like 
to subscribe, send a message to:

    req...@li...

with body

    subscribe etherboot-tradeshow-talk

and you'll be on the list.  

This should be a fun show, and to give you some idea of how it goes, the 
exhibit hall at LinuxWorld Expo (http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/) is open:

   Tue, Aug 28, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
   Wed, Aug 29, 2001   10:00-18:00 (6pm)
   Thu, Aug 30, 2001   10:00-16:00 (4pm)

The Etherboot Project booth is #269  and the LTSP (#367) is just around 
the corner.  Too bad we don't have wireless PCMCIA Etherbooting working 
yet :-)

So that's a beginning.  I'm sure there will be a lot to talk about in the 
coming month before the show.

Even if you can't make it to the show, visit us vicariously on the web.  
If possible we'll have a webcam going at the show again.  We're also 
looking for any ideas for the booth.  We will likely have a server and 
two demo thin clients, of course the 4x8 ft banner, and the webcam, and 
(did I mention) KEN YAP, ALIVE AND IN PERSON? :-)

World Domination... and fast! :-)

Marty

---
    Try: http://rom-o-matic.net/ to make Etherboot images instantly.

   Name: Marty Connor
US Mail: Entity Cyber, Inc.; P.O. Box 391827; Cambridge, MA 02139; USA
  Voice: (617) 491-6935, Fax: (617) 491-7046 
  Email: md...@th...
    Web: http://www.thinguin.org/

Re: [Etherboot-developers] tiara

[<ke...@us...>]

>Was is the linux kernel driver for tiara  ethernet card????

There isn't one. It's not supported in Linux, probably will never be,
and isn't worth crying over. You can run it with a DOS packet driver,
that's all.

From the Ethernet HOWTO:

  4.35.9.  SMC 3008

  Status: Not Supported.

  These 8 bit cards are based on the Fujitsu MB86950, which is an
  ancient version of the MB86965 used in the Linux at1700 driver. Russ
  says that you could probably hack up a driver by looking at the
  at1700.c code and his DOS packet driver for the Tiara card
  (tiara.asm). They are not very common.

[Etherboot-developers] (no subject)

[<ar...@li...>]

Was is the linux kernel driver for tiara  ethernet card????

tanks
gerardo di iorio

Re: [Etherboot-developers] Compiling problems.

[<ke...@us...>]

>as  -o bin/prloader.tmp bin/prloader.s
>bin/prloader.s: Assembler messages:
>bin/prloader.s:93: Error: attempt to .org/.space backwards? (-5)
>bin/prloader.s:289: Internal error!
>Assertion failure in write_contents at write.c line 1185.
>Please report this bug.
>make: *** [bin/prloader.bin] Error 1

Please report this to the binutils maintainer.

[Etherboot-developers] Compiling problems.

[Grigory <gr...@in...>]

Troubles whith compiling etherboot-5.0.2

I'm using ALTLinux (Sisyphus) gcc-2.96, binutils-2.11.90.0.19

Next problem:

as  -o bin/prloader.tmp bin/prloader.s
bin/prloader.s: Assembler messages:
bin/prloader.s:93: Error: attempt to .org/.space backwards? (-5)
bin/prloader.s:289: Internal error!
Assertion failure in write_contents at write.c line 1185.
Please report this bug.
make: *** [bin/prloader.bin] Error 1

[Etherboot-developers] Re: Etherboot-developers digest, Vol 1 #172 - 1 msg

[<lee...@ho...>]

I think your fs is not ready,
at least check /etc/inittab and /sbin/init


>
>Firstly, Thanks to Marty it works like charm BUT...:)
>
>I am using Redhat 6.2 with rtl8139 chipset. I configured my dhcp as Marty
>had shown in his email.Got the mknbi.1.2.x. The client can boot using PXE
>to load the etherboot.
>
>The problem I got when the client boots up, it freezes at
>
>Freeing unused kernel memory: 44K freed
>Warning: unable to open an initial console
>Kernel panic.No init found.Try passing init=option to kernel
>
>Not sure where to look for what causes the error.Hope Marty can give some
>pointers.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
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