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Re: [ES40-developers] SCSI support for OpenVMS has arrived
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From: Hittner, D. T. <dav...@ng...> - 2008-02-18 17:37:31
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Nah, your install process has hung or died.
Try this, just for the fun of it :-)
Download and install the (free) Personal Alpha emulator.
See how long it takes to install OpenVMS. You'll be suprised. 8-O
Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: es4...@li...
> [mailto:es4...@li...] On
> Behalf Of fa...@un...
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: es4...@li...
> Subject: Re: [ES40-developers] SCSI support for OpenVMS has arrived
>
> Hello all,
>
> after 6 hours the installation is always at 50%.
> I don't think it's a nice thing.
>
> Has anybody some experience with timings of OpenVMS 8.3 installation.
>
> My PC is quite fast... quadcore with 4GB of ram, so I don't
> think it's a speed problem.
> By the way I'll keep the emulator running for other 2
> hours... and let's see.
> :-)
>
> regards,
> fausto
>
> Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
>
> > Hello Fausto,
> >
> > We've seen those occasionally during the installation process.
> > Sometimes it all works flawless, sometimes we come across
> one or more
> > of these ACCVIO's... It beats me... It's usually fine if
> you reply NO
> > to the "terminate" question.
> >
> > Camiel.
> >
> > On Feb 18, 2008 3:46 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> some news from Installation world :-)
> >>
> >> The Openvms installation fails (40%) with a OpenVMS error
> (no errors
> >> in DOS console), maybe some memory error (???).
> >>
> >> %PCSI-I-PRCOUTPUT, output from subprocess follows ...
> >> %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual
> >> address=000000000019E08C, PC=000000007FDC3BB4, PS=0000001B
> >>
> >> %PCSI-E-MODREPLERR, error replacing module INSTALL in library
> >> DISK$ALPHASYS:[VMS$COMMON.][SYSLIB]DCLTABLES.EXE
> >> -SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=!XB, virtual
> >> address=!XH, PC=!XH, PS=!XL %PCSI-E-OPFAILED, operation failed
> >> Terminating is strongly recommended. Do you want to
> terminate? [YES]
> >>
> >> I replied "NO" :-) So I'll keep you in touch about the news...
> >>
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> fausto
> >>
> >> Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
> >>
> >> > Hello Fausto,
> >> >
> >> > Yes, those appear to be quite normal. Basically it is the scsi
> >> > driver asking for more data than the device has to offer. The
> >> > device will respectfully decline to send more bytes, and
> the driver
> >> > has no problem with that. I'll put the messages inside a
> >> > conditional statement, as they are only meaningful when
> debugging the SCSI-interface.
> >> >
> >> > Camiel.
> >> >
> >> > P.S. These specific occurrences of this message are all
> related to
> >> > OpenVMS' use of the MODE SENSE command. It will set up a
> buffer of
> >> > 256 bytes for it, tell the device to perform a MODE
> SENSE command
> >> > and return 255 bytes max (the maximum allowed), then try
> to get up
> >> > to 256 bytes from the device.
> >> >
> >> > On Feb 18, 2008 2:32 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
> >> >> Hello Camiel,
> >> >>
> >> >> i'm testing the new code, all seems ok. Now the init
> works and the
> >> >> installation proceed without any probs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just a quick update... during the installation boot, I
> have these
> >> >> "errors" (????):
> >> >>
> >> >> SYM: xfer 240 bytes, max 239 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 240 bytes, max 239 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
> >> >>
> >> >> [...]
> >> >>
> >> >> etc...
> >> >>
> >> >> are they normal?
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >> fausto
> >> >>
> >> >> Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hello Fausto,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I found that this was caused by the READ DISC INFO
> command. This
> >> >> > command is required only on CD-R/RW devices, which we're not
> >> >> > emulating, so rather than try to fi it, I removed support for
> >> >> > this command, returning an ILLEGAL REQUEST sense code instead.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've updated it in CVS as well.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Camiel.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Feb 18, 2008 1:30 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
> >> <iam...@gm...> wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi Fausto,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, I did update the code in CVS. I'm trying to
> boot from the
> >> >> >> VMS 8.3 installation cd on the scsi bus, and I see
> what you mean.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It seems to be looping on a sequence of 4 scsi commands:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> INQUIRY
> >> >> >> READ DISK INFO
> >> >> >> INQUIRY
> >> >> >> TEST UNIT READY
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'll see if I can find out what's going on...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Camiel.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Feb 18, 2008 1:22 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hello Camiel,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > did you update the CVS?
> >> >> >> > I updated the code few mins ago, but now the OpenVMS 8.3
> >> installation
> >> >> >> > seems to loop shortly after the OpenVMS banner.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > These are the memory addresses: 187868 | ffffffff801aa170
> >> >> >> > 285915 | ffffffff80012208
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Before the latest update (when I reported the
> format error),
> >> >> >> > 1 min after the openvms banner, I had "Installing
> some known
> >> >> >> > required files..." message, but in this case,
> after about 10
> >> >> >> > mins, nothing happens.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > regards,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > fausto
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > And once again a mail on this subject:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I think the problem has been solved. The SCSI command
> >> READ CAPACITY
> >> >> >> > > returned the number of blocks on disk, where it should
> >> return the LBA
> >> >> >> > > address of the last block on disk (which is one
> less); this
> >> >> >> > > caused initialize to try to write beyond the last block.
> >> >> >> > > This has
> >> >> been fixed,
> >> >> >> > > and initialize now works.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Camiel.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > On Feb 17, 2008 4:49 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
> >> >> >> <iam...@gm...> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> Hello,
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> I've made a couple of changes (implemented some missing
> >> >> >> > >> SCSI commands), but now an attempt to
> initialize (format)
> >> >> >> > >> a SCSI
> >> >> disk fails
> >> >> >> > >> with
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> $ init dka500 test
> >> >> >> > >> %INIT-F-MEDOFL, medium is offline $
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Which is a bit strange, because sho dev shows
> the device
> >> >> >> > >> as
> >> >> "online".
> >> >> >> > >> The attempt to format the disk increases the
> error-count by one.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> Camiel.
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> On Feb 16, 2008 8:36 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > Hello again,
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > maybe too fast to write my previous message :-) The
> >> >> >> > >> > emulator crashed when it started to format
> the disk with
> >> >> >> this message:
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > pci0.3(sym53c810).disk0.0(file): Unknown SCSI
> command 0x03.
> >> >> >> > >> > SCSI Command Failed: ..\Disk.cpp, line 1390
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Freeing memory in use by system...
> >> >> >> > >> > %VGA-I-SHUTDOWN: vga console has shut down.
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Maybe there's something still not emulated...
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > fausto
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
> >> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > > Yes, I forgot that, thanks!
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > Camiel.
> >> >> >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > > On Feb 16, 2008 5:42 PM, brian wheeler
> >> >> >> <bdw...@in...> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >> Oh, and this one too:
> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > >> Index: Configurator.cpp
> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >>
> ===============================================================
> >> >> >> ====
> >> >> >> > >> > >> RCS file: /cvsroot/es40/es40/src/Configurator.cpp,v
> >> >> >> > >> > >> retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14
> >> >> >> > >> > >> Configurator.cpp
> >> >> >> > >> > >> --- Configurator.cpp 16 Feb 2008
> 13:00:15 -0000 1.14
> >> >> >> > >> > >> +++ Configurator.cpp 16 Feb 2008 16:41:55 -0000
> >> >> >> > >> > >> @@ -518,6 +518,7 @@
> >> >> >> > >> > >> {"cirrus", c_cirrus, IS_PCI |
> >> >> >> > >> > >> ON_GUI },
> >> >> >> > >> > >> {"dec21143",c_dec21143, IS_PCI |
> >> >> >> > >> > >> IS_NIC },
> >> >> >> > >> > >> {"sym53c895", c_sym53c895, IS_PCI |
> >> >> >> > >> > >> HAS_DISK },
> >> >> >> > >> > >> + {"sym53c810", c_sym53c810, IS_PCI |
> >> >> >> > >> > >> HAS_DISK },
> >> >> >> > >> > >> {"file", c_file,
> >> >> >> IS_DISK
> >> >> >> > >> > >> },
> >> >> >> > >> > >> {"device", c_device,
> >> >> >> IS_DISK
> >> >> >> > >> > >> },
> >> >> >> > >> > >> {"ramdisk", c_ramdisk,
> >> >> >> IS_DISK
> >> >> >> > >> > >> },
> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > >>
> >> >> >> > >> > >> On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 14:19 +0100, Camiel
> >> Vanderhoeven wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Hi Again,
> >> >> >> > >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > I haven't been able to get my hands on a
> KZPCA yet,
> >> >> >> (some of you had
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > suggestions who to ask, I'm pursuing those leads
> >> >> now) but in the
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > meantime, I took a good look at the
> KZPAA card I do
> >> >> have. It's a
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > 53C810-based card, which is fairly similar to the
> >> >> >> 53C895. The good
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > news is that this card does not have any
> >> firmware. Due to the
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > similarities with the 53C895 it turned out to be
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > not that
> >> >> >> > >> hard to come
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > up with a working emulation. I just successfully
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > booted
> >> >> >> > >> OpenVMS off an
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > emulated SCSI disk.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > I've committed the new code to the CVS
> repository.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > It
> >> >> >> will also be in
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > the next release. You'll need to change
> your config
> >> >> >> file, replace
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > 53c895 with 53c810, and all scsi-disks
> should be in
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > the
> >> >> >> 0.0 - 0.6
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > range (sorry, no wide scsi on this card).
> >> >> >> > >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > Camiel.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > On Feb 15, 2008 11:54 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
> >> >> >> > >> <iam...@gm...> wrote:
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Hello everyone,
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > First, a piece of good news: Eduardo Marcello
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Serrat
> >> >> >> has found the
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > cause of the bugcheck in the SCSI driver. That
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > means
> >> >> >> we're getting
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > closer to working SCSI disks on the emulator
> >> >> running OpenVMS.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Now the bad news, to complete the emulation of
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > the SCSI
> >> >> >> > >> card, we need
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > an image of the firmware ROM on a true DEC
> >> 3X-KZPCA-AA SCSI
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > controller.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > If I could get my hands on a real 3X-KZPCA-AA
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > card, I
> >> >> >> > >> could probably
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > manage to extract the contents of the ROM to
> >> >> create an image.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > If any of you happen to have one of
> these cards,
> >> >> >> could you let me
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > know? They are identifyable by the main chip,
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > which
> >> >> >> is either "NCR
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > 53C985", "LSI Logic 53C895" or
> "Symbios 53C895".
> >> >> >> There are also
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > versions of this card that won't work with
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > OpenVMS,
> >> >> >> so please check
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > that first. If you have this card, it would be
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > very
> >> >> >> useful if you
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > could create an image of the PCI
> option ROM, or
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > if you'd
> >> >> >> > >> be willing to
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > part with the card (for a while) so I
> can extract
> >> >> the image.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Camiel.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > P.S. Apologies to those who receive this e-mail
> >> >> >> twice, but I found
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > this important enough to send to both the
> >> >> developers and the
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > announcements list.
> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >> > >> >
> >> >> >> > >>
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