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From: <fa...@un...> - 2008-02-18 17:27:25
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Hello all,
after 6 hours the installation is always at 50%.
I don't think it's a nice thing.
Has anybody some experience with timings of OpenVMS 8.3 installation.
My PC is quite fast... quadcore with 4GB of ram, so I don't think it's
a speed problem.
By the way I'll keep the emulator running for other 2 hours... and let's see.
:-)
regards,
fausto
Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
> Hello Fausto,
>
> We've seen those occasionally during the installation process.
> Sometimes it all works flawless, sometimes we come across one or more
> of these ACCVIO's... It beats me... It's usually fine if you reply NO
> to the "terminate" question.
>
> Camiel.
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 3:46 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> some news from Installation world :-)
>>
>> The Openvms installation fails (40%) with a OpenVMS error (no errors
>> in DOS console), maybe some memory error (???).
>>
>> %PCSI-I-PRCOUTPUT, output from subprocess follows ...
>> %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual
>> address=000000000019E08C, PC=000000007FDC3BB4, PS=0000001B
>>
>> %PCSI-E-MODREPLERR, error replacing module INSTALL in library
>> DISK$ALPHASYS:[VMS$COMMON.][SYSLIB]DCLTABLES.EXE
>> -SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=!XB, virtual
>> address=!XH, PC=!XH, PS=!XL
>> %PCSI-E-OPFAILED, operation failed
>> Terminating is strongly recommended. Do you want to terminate? [YES]
>>
>> I replied "NO" :-) So I'll keep you in touch about the news...
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> fausto
>>
>> Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
>>
>> > Hello Fausto,
>> >
>> > Yes, those appear to be quite normal. Basically it is the scsi driver
>> > asking for more data than the device has to offer. The device will
>> > respectfully decline to send more bytes, and the driver has no problem
>> > with that. I'll put the messages inside a conditional statement, as
>> > they are only meaningful when debugging the SCSI-interface.
>> >
>> > Camiel.
>> >
>> > P.S. These specific occurrences of this message are all related to
>> > OpenVMS' use of the MODE SENSE command. It will set up a buffer of 256
>> > bytes for it, tell the device to perform a MODE SENSE command and
>> > return 255 bytes max (the maximum allowed), then try to get up to 256
>> > bytes from the device.
>> >
>> > On Feb 18, 2008 2:32 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
>> >> Hello Camiel,
>> >>
>> >> i'm testing the new code, all seems ok. Now the init works and the
>> >> installation proceed without any probs.
>> >>
>> >> Just a quick update... during the installation boot, I have these
>> >> "errors" (????):
>> >>
>> >> SYM: xfer 240 bytes, max 239 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 240 bytes, max 239 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >> SYM: xfer 256 bytes, max 255 expected, in phase 1.
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> etc...
>> >>
>> >> are they normal?
>> >>
>> >> thanks,
>> >>
>> >> fausto
>> >>
>> >> Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
>> >>
>> >> > Hello Fausto,
>> >> >
>> >> > I found that this was caused by the READ DISC INFO command. This
>> >> > command is required only on CD-R/RW devices, which we're not
>> >> > emulating, so rather than try to fi it, I removed support for this
>> >> > command, returning an ILLEGAL REQUEST sense code instead.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've updated it in CVS as well.
>> >> >
>> >> > Camiel.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Feb 18, 2008 1:30 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
>> <iam...@gm...> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Fausto,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, I did update the code in CVS. I'm trying to boot from the VMS 8.3
>> >> >> installation cd on the scsi bus, and I see what you mean.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It seems to be looping on a sequence of 4 scsi commands:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> INQUIRY
>> >> >> READ DISK INFO
>> >> >> INQUIRY
>> >> >> TEST UNIT READY
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll see if I can find out what's going on...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Camiel.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Feb 18, 2008 1:22 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hello Camiel,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > did you update the CVS?
>> >> >> > I updated the code few mins ago, but now the OpenVMS 8.3
>> installation
>> >> >> > seems to loop shortly after the OpenVMS banner.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > These are the memory addresses: 187868 | ffffffff801aa170
>> >> >> > 285915 | ffffffff80012208
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Before the latest update (when I reported the format error), 1 min
>> >> >> > after the openvms banner, I had "Installing some known required
>> >> >> > files..." message, but in this case, after about 10 mins, nothing
>> >> >> > happens.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > fausto
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > And once again a mail on this subject:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I think the problem has been solved. The SCSI command
>> READ CAPACITY
>> >> >> > > returned the number of blocks on disk, where it should
>> return the LBA
>> >> >> > > address of the last block on disk (which is one less); this caused
>> >> >> > > initialize to try to write beyond the last block. This has
>> >> been fixed,
>> >> >> > > and initialize now works.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Camiel.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Feb 17, 2008 4:49 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
>> >> >> <iam...@gm...> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> Hello,
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> I've made a couple of changes (implemented some missing SCSI
>> >> >> > >> commands), but now an attempt to initialize (format) a SCSI
>> >> disk fails
>> >> >> > >> with
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> $ init dka500 test
>> >> >> > >> %INIT-F-MEDOFL, medium is offline
>> >> >> > >> $
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Which is a bit strange, because sho dev shows the device as
>> >> "online".
>> >> >> > >> The attempt to format the disk increases the error-count by one.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Camiel.
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> On Feb 16, 2008 8:36 PM, <fa...@un...> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > Hello again,
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > maybe too fast to write my previous message :-)
>> >> >> > >> > The emulator crashed when it started to format the disk with
>> >> >> this message:
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > pci0.3(sym53c810).disk0.0(file): Unknown SCSI command 0x03.
>> >> >> > >> > SCSI Command Failed: ..\Disk.cpp, line 1390
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Freeing memory in use by system...
>> >> >> > >> > %VGA-I-SHUTDOWN: vga console has shut down.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Maybe there's something still not emulated...
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > fausto
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Quoting Camiel Vanderhoeven <iam...@gm...>:
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > > Yes, I forgot that, thanks!
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > Camiel.
>> >> >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > > On Feb 16, 2008 5:42 PM, brian wheeler
>> >> >> <bdw...@in...> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > >> Oh, and this one too:
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >> Index: Configurator.cpp
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> ===================================================================
>> >> >> > >> > >> RCS file: /cvsroot/es40/es40/src/Configurator.cpp,v
>> >> >> > >> > >> retrieving revision 1.14
>> >> >> > >> > >> diff -u -r1.14 Configurator.cpp
>> >> >> > >> > >> --- Configurator.cpp 16 Feb 2008 13:00:15 -0000 1.14
>> >> >> > >> > >> +++ Configurator.cpp 16 Feb 2008 16:41:55 -0000
>> >> >> > >> > >> @@ -518,6 +518,7 @@
>> >> >> > >> > >> {"cirrus", c_cirrus, IS_PCI |
>> >> >> > >> > >> ON_GUI },
>> >> >> > >> > >> {"dec21143",c_dec21143, IS_PCI |
>> >> >> > >> > >> IS_NIC },
>> >> >> > >> > >> {"sym53c895", c_sym53c895, IS_PCI |
>> >> >> > >> > >> HAS_DISK },
>> >> >> > >> > >> + {"sym53c810", c_sym53c810, IS_PCI |
>> >> >> > >> > >> HAS_DISK },
>> >> >> > >> > >> {"file", c_file,
>> >> >> IS_DISK
>> >> >> > >> > >> },
>> >> >> > >> > >> {"device", c_device,
>> >> >> IS_DISK
>> >> >> > >> > >> },
>> >> >> > >> > >> {"ramdisk", c_ramdisk,
>> >> >> IS_DISK
>> >> >> > >> > >> },
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> > >> On Sat, 2008-02-16 at 14:19 +0100, Camiel
>> Vanderhoeven wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Hi Again,
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > I haven't been able to get my hands on a KZPCA yet,
>> >> >> (some of you had
>> >> >> > >> > >> > suggestions who to ask, I'm pursuing those leads
>> >> now) but in the
>> >> >> > >> > >> > meantime, I took a good look at the KZPAA card I do
>> >> have. It's a
>> >> >> > >> > >> > 53C810-based card, which is fairly similar to the
>> >> >> 53C895. The good
>> >> >> > >> > >> > news is that this card does not have any
>> firmware. Due to the
>> >> >> > >> > >> > similarities with the 53C895 it turned out to be not that
>> >> >> > >> hard to come
>> >> >> > >> > >> > up with a working emulation. I just successfully booted
>> >> >> > >> OpenVMS off an
>> >> >> > >> > >> > emulated SCSI disk.
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > I've committed the new code to the CVS repository. It
>> >> >> will also be in
>> >> >> > >> > >> > the next release. You'll need to change your config
>> >> >> file, replace
>> >> >> > >> > >> > 53c895 with 53c810, and all scsi-disks should be in the
>> >> >> 0.0 - 0.6
>> >> >> > >> > >> > range (sorry, no wide scsi on this card).
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > Camiel.
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > On Feb 15, 2008 11:54 AM, Camiel Vanderhoeven
>> >> >> > >> <iam...@gm...> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > Hello everyone,
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > First, a piece of good news: Eduardo Marcello Serrat
>> >> >> has found the
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > cause of the bugcheck in the SCSI driver. That means
>> >> >> we're getting
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > closer to working SCSI disks on the emulator
>> >> running OpenVMS.
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > Now the bad news, to complete the emulation of the SCSI
>> >> >> > >> card, we need
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > an image of the firmware ROM on a true DEC
>> 3X-KZPCA-AA SCSI
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > controller.
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > If I could get my hands on a real 3X-KZPCA-AA card, I
>> >> >> > >> could probably
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > manage to extract the contents of the ROM to
>> >> create an image.
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > If any of you happen to have one of these cards,
>> >> >> could you let me
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > know? They are identifyable by the main chip, which
>> >> >> is either "NCR
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > 53C985", "LSI Logic 53C895" or "Symbios 53C895".
>> >> >> There are also
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > versions of this card that won't work with OpenVMS,
>> >> >> so please check
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > that first. If you have this card, it would be very
>> >> >> useful if you
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > could create an image of the PCI option ROM, or if you'd
>> >> >> > >> be willing to
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > part with the card (for a while) so I can extract
>> >> the image.
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > Thanks,
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > Camiel.
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > P.S. Apologies to those who receive this e-mail
>> >> >> twice, but I found
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > this important enough to send to both the
>> >> developers and the
>> >> >> > >> > >> > > announcements list.
>> >> >> > >> > >> > >
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >>
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