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#87 EpiDoc guidance on text direction is not TEI-conformant

9.0
done
5(medium)
2017-12-07
2014-12-02
Tom Elliott
No

Current EpiDoc Guidance for Direction of Text suggest the selective use of the "rend" attribute on the "lb" element to indicate text direction. The TEI Guidelines (Section 5.6 Writing Modes) prescribes the use of the "style" attribute and the CSS Writing Modes Module.

EpiDoc Guidelines and XSLTs need to be brought into conformance with the TEI.

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Discussion

  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2014-12-18

    Ticket moved from /p/epidoc/bugs/135/

     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2014-12-18

    Moved this to feature requests, because I think we need to (a) assess the new TEI section on text directionality; (b) revise existing EpiDoc usage and guidance; (c) consider shorthand versions for left-to-right, right-to-left, boustrophedon on a whole div, etc.

    (Also it's not really a bug, because TEI usage has only just recently changed on us.)

     
  • Tom Elliott

    Tom Elliott - 2015-04-28
    • status: unread --> accepted
    • assigned_to: Tom Elliott
    • Group: future --> Next_Release_(example)
     
  • Tom Elliott

    Tom Elliott - 2015-04-30
    • Group: Next_Release_(example) --> 8.20
     
  • Tom Elliott

    Tom Elliott - 2015-05-08

    I'm not going to get the analysis done for this in time for the release. Pulling it out of 8.21 milestone.

     
  • Tom Elliott

    Tom Elliott - 2015-05-08
    • Group: 8.21 --> future
     
  • Elli Mylonas

    Elli Mylonas - 2016-07-19
    • assigned_to: Tom Elliott --> Scott DiGiulio
     
  • Elli Mylonas

    Elli Mylonas - 2016-07-19

    Scott DiGiulio will work on the analysis and report back in sf

     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2016-09-20
    • Group: future --> 8.23
     
  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-01-16

    a) Generally speaking, the current TEI guidelines suggest (5.6) that the directionality as a rule is bound up in the script itself; in cases where you want to indicate it, they seem to be suggesting @style in the xml referring to CSS values, and the attributes "writing-mode" and "text-orientation" in the CSS. An example of boustrophedon is also given, in 5.9, which relies on the style attribute as well. The directionality of the text seems to be given primarily in a <seg>.

    b) We currently use @rend for handling such directionality. This might be brought into agreement with TEI simply using @style instead, and updating the CSS accordingly (if I've understood the TEI discussion correctly). While TEI's examples generally mark the directionality of a <seg>, <lg>, etc., we currently indicate this on the <lb>; does this make sense to keep and only change the attribute? The boustrophedon example in the TEI marks this on a <seg> after each <lb>, though I'm fairly certain we don't normally include the <seg> in EpiDoc. I think we could add the directionality attribute to whole divs, too, as a possibility.

    c) l-to-r; r-to-l; boust? But this can be sorted out easily enough.

     

    Last edit: Scott DiGiulio 2017-01-16
  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-01-24

    Based on our meeting last week, we agreed that changing the way we handle direction to <lb style="text-direction:l-to-r"> vel sim. should align with the new TEI standard, while still keeping the nuances that are particular to epigraphic texts.

     
  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-03-20
    • Group: 8.23 --> future
     
  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-04-18
    • Group: future --> 8.24
     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2017-10-17
    • Group: 8.24 --> 9.0
     
  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-12-04

    Updated guidelines xml from @rend to @style as previously discussed to bring into conformity with TEI; I think there needs to be a corresponding change made in the XSLT, though I'm not sure precisely which files need changing.

     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2017-12-04

    This may be a case for assigning this ticket to Tom (and I would categorize this as now a BUG, since GL and XSLT practice are out of sync—so fixing after today's feature freeze is acceptable) who I think have examples of text direction to encode and handle in his projects...

     
    • Tom Elliott

      Tom Elliott - 2017-12-04

      Yep, I can take the XSLT aspect, for sure.

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      On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:45 AM, BODARD Gabriel gabrielbodard@users.sf.net
      wrote:

      This may be a case for assigning this ticket to Tom (and I would
      categorize this as now a BUG, since GL and XSLT practice are out of sync—so
      fixing after today's feature freeze is acceptable) who I think have
      examples of text direction to encode and handle in his projects...


      [feature-requests:#87] EpiDoc guidance on text direction is not
      TEI-conformant

      Status: accepted
      Group: 9.0
      Labels: guidelines and xslts
      Created: Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:04 PM UTC by Tom Elliott
      Last Updated: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:21 AM UTC
      Owner: Scott DiGiulio

      Current EpiDoc Guidance for Direction of Text suggest the selective use
      of the "rend" attribute on the "lb" element to indicate text direction. The
      TEI Guidelines (Section 5.6 Writing Modes) prescribes the use of the
      "style" attribute and the CSS Writing Modes Module.

      EpiDoc Guidelines and XSLTs need to be brought into conformance with the
      TEI.


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  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-12-04
    • status: accepted --> pending
    • assigned_to: Scott DiGiulio --> Tom Elliott
     
  • Scott DiGiulio

    Scott DiGiulio - 2017-12-04

    Reassigning this back to Tom for the XSLT updates; I've also updated the prose of the guidelines to reflect the TEI usage of <lb> better.

     
  • Tom Elliott

    Tom Elliott - 2017-12-07

    The strings "left-to-right" and "right-to-left" only appear in htm-teiab.xsl, so that's where I'm going to make the changes.

     
  • Tom Elliott

    Tom Elliott - 2017-12-07
    • status: pending --> done
     

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