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#144 Add @rend value of 'inserted' to `hi` element

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2023-06-15
2020-05-14
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I would like to suggest the addition of 'inserted' (vel sim.) to the list of suggested @rend values for the hi element. (See attached example from CIL vi 3166)

While in some respects this practice might be characterized as a ligature, I think it merits distinction on the basis that (1) most projects may not want them to render as ligatures (with inverted breve above) as this would give a misleading impression, and (2) it is a notable epigraphic feature no less worthy of the status shared by several other values already supported (e.g., 'inverted', 'small', 'stacked', et al.).

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  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2020-06-16

    "inserted" is ambiguous (from the title I thought you were talking about later additions/insertions to the text). Is there a more technical and transparent term we could suggest instead?

    "inclusion"|"containment"|"enclosed"?

     
  • Elli Mylonas

    Elli Mylonas - 2020-08-18

    EM will do some research on other TEI/epigraphic methods for handling this type of containment before the next ticket sprint.

     
  • Elli Mylonas

    Elli Mylonas - 2020-08-18
    • assigned_to: Elli Mylonas
     
  • Scott Vanderbilt

    Here's another example of one of a series of half dozen or so moulded bottles and flasks from RIB. While it may be a maker's monogram, RIB's editors have left the text uninterpreted, so I would guess they considered that possibility and dismissed it. Item pictured is RIB 2419.76

     
  • Elli Mylonas

    Elli Mylonas - 2021-03-16

    I checked the TEI chapter Characters, Glyphs, and Writing Modes which recommends encoding a ligature-like juxtaposition as a glyph, similar to ligatures or unique forms of a character. This is what Scott is trying to avoid. The recommendation is in section 5.3 Annotating Characters.

    Most of the terminology and properties that are provided in the chapter for defining a character using the glyph element are also appropriate for single characters, or common ligatures.

    The property list does mention "encircled" as a decomposition type. There is also a normative Unicode property "enclosing" which may describe the relationship of the two letters that are carved with the one inside the other.

    No luck with other epigraphic ways of describing the characters.
    Options for <hi> might be "enclosing" or "enclosed," depending on which letter the guidelines recommend marking up.

     
    • BODARD Gabriel

      BODARD Gabriel - 2021-03-16

      Wouldn't this be a case where we would want to tag both letters, the encircler and the enclosed? Otherwise it would be ambiguous as to which of the adjacent letters the letter is encircled by…

      Is this therefore a bit like the case of a ligature that spans two words or similar, so needs two separate <hi> elements to tag it?

       
  • Elli Mylonas

    Elli Mylonas - 2021-03-16

    EM to open discussion on Markup.

     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2022-01-18
    • Group: future --> 9.4
     
  • BODARD Gabriel

    BODARD Gabriel - 2023-06-15
    • Group: 9.4 --> 9.6
     

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