Re: [Envolution-devel] I resigne from envolution

[Scott K. <sc...@ki...>]

On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 13:34, gagl wrote:
> Hi Zoom,
> I don't ask for comments: this is my decision with those motivations:
> I talked, as we always do, with others about this in these days. You
> are very able to speak, you're surely a good lawyer, but maybe
> understand things people say, there is no civil suit to win this time:
> members left, supports also.

Not everyone has left. In fact most have stayed.

> And this is very bad: "But as long as all this
> talk of Nazi's and Hitler remains envolution.it will not be recognized
> officially as an Envolution CMS resource. I will find a replacement
> Italaian support site in needed. "
> If someone just say personal things, that you maybe misunderstood, you
> ban a whole comunity? YOU HAVE problems, Zoom, with italian comunity:
> 12000 members, OKAY.

I never said a whole community was responsible. But I did point out that
these unforgivable comments are posted all over envolution.it for public
view so it is not just personal comments made to people privately. 

It was also published on envolution.com by the same people and it was
removed because of the references to Nazi's and Hitler. Also a whole
community was not banned either. Only two individuals who keep using
these unforgivable references to Nazi's and Hitler to describe
Envolution staff were banned. They were also not banned until they were
asked politley to stop using the offending and cruel terms. When they
refused to abide by the Terms of Use statement that has been published
on Envolution.com from the very beginning, then, and only then were they
banned.

So NO. I do not have problems with Itlaian community or anyone else. I
have repeatedly stated that, yet you insist on fabricating a notion that
I and others at Envolution are anti-Italian. The fact is I am not. I
welcome all people from all cultures, backgrounds, and nationalities.And
because I respect ALL communities any references to Envolution staff or
members by ANYONE using those evil terms will not be tolerated or
accepted. PERIOD. So envolution.it will never be accepted as an official
Envolution resource until those evil and unforgivable references to
Nazi's and Hitler as descriptions to Envolution people is removed and
prevented from happening again. It's not negotiable. Either remove them
or you can kiss any relationship with the Envolution Project goodbye.


> NO flames, think at all, Zoom, 
> nothing happens for nothing.
> Best regards,
> capretta,
> staff of envolution.it
> 

My responses are not flames. And I didn't consider your email above to
be a flame either. But I do think you have information based on
misconception and bad translation. I also do not believe that you
understand how terrible it is to allow or permit members of
envolution.it to post references to Nazi's and Hitler as descriptions of
Envolution staff.

Zoom