From: gagl <ca...@fr...> - 2003-08-04 15:12:50
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Hi, I'm capretta: I was doc manger before, I'm in staff of envolution.it and was working = on the eNDP (eNvolution Documentation Project): maybe the new MP and all = the new 4 developers (nothing personal....) and alive-again founders = don't know, but Zoom knows how things went in this year and what has = been stated and created.=20 You maybe ask what's going on now with all "TiMax followers" as someone = wrote on this ML.... Ok, many things changed, and you new staff seem to be the only that = doesn't understand: maybe if you read ML of the last year you would = understand more how we were organized, not always by written rules:=20 THIS COMUNITY WORKED AND GROWED AND WAS RULED MOSTLY BY CONFIDENCE. And = this politics, the best one in Open source voluntary projects, worked = fine: because we had a PM that left us free to create and develop on = little projects, made by groups, with personal contacts, other ML, with = all tools we needed, but we had ALWAYS support, reliance and respect on = and by our MP. Evreything was reported to him, who was the center of all = single projects. We call it coordination and organization if needed: = that's what a PM has to do.=20 Nearly 12000 users, have you seen our Forums on envo.it? our Statistics? = All the users asked, helped in making better this CMS: they feel it, and = had confidence in us, and we had in them. The staff tried then to = satisfy these needs of the users, and spontaneously things were = developed and bugs fixed: that's a comunity, based on confidence and = respect.=20 This until last week: we expected the new PM would first see how things = work (because Apatyboy has no idea about how envolution works and he = showed it with his behaviour), then speak with everybody, and then = programming the future.=20 He managed only, until now, to make a nonsense vision, that we, from the = italian support side, haven't translated, because it cracks the promises = and the expectations of the 12000 users we have, thinking: maybe he = stepped on a bullshit, how we say in italy. Then the rest went how = nobody of us expected:=20 Maybe you don't know, but we all continue to use these not appropriate = channels to comunicate: other ML, mails, chats, there is an uprisal not = only from some staff members, but much more from the users against new = politics of the new leaders and staff. See it on the local sites, come = to visit please envolution.it, comments, forums, users and staff members = that compromise themeselves with their companies to follow envolution = project, in confidence, believed in it, and now see unknown names = making rules in an afternoon on saturday on august between them, 4-5 new = staff men.=20 Is it not a signal for you all, and much more for you, Zoom, you're in = it since some months, that some supports left, other are discussing to = leave, developers banned, other censored...... has it never happened = before? OK, maybe we are all foolish and childish: but you, is your = coscience clear? Let's then make a saint of you..... I work on open source because i like to do it with people, with whom I = work fine and in confidence ( this word is the reason of all happened): = so all of us spent their free time on this project, between friends: I = don't remember a flame between staff members nor resignments on = envolution.....Now I don't have this feeling: I don't want to work under = the command of unknown people, I don't do this neither in my private = job....you decide new rules about ENISS (you all know what it is?) = without hearing who was working on it, only after a meeting between you = 4-5 new team.....don't be surprised if people called you = dispotic....that's not the way to handle and coordinate a comunity that = is used to work in freedom and CONFIDENCE. I don't want to start flames with nobody, this mail is only another = trying to make you understand why this all is happening, but maybe Zoom, = the laywer, will find an offensive word or statement in this mail and = build all the defence on that single word and not on the sense of = discussion....we hoped at least on you, who knows how envo works, but = you seemed to be elsewhere..... This is my resignment from doc manger, but I think, you decided it = before, since you cancelled all positions from the site.... But I will continue in envolution.it staff, with the other staff and the = thousands of members, in harmony and CONFIDENCE. Best regards, Angelo Gagliani staff envolution.it |