Re: [Envolution-devel] the future of eNvolution?

[TiMax <ma...@em...>]

Thanks for all your answers, that is all i want 

TiMax

On 02 Aug 2003 23:40:03 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote:
>=A0 =A0On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 22:57, TiMax wrote:
>=A0 =A0>=A0Do you have read all comments in italian language ? and in french=
 language ? =A0and in german language ? i think not ......
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>=A0 =A0I don't read every comment in the English language either, so whats=
 your
>=A0 =A0point?
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>=A0 =A0>=A0Anyway yes, that is my opinions and you MUST respect that, =A0so if you=
 don't want to put my news online no problem for me, maybe for other people=
 yes ...
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>=A0 =A0I will not put any content on the website that comatains obvious false
>=A0 =A0statements for anyone.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0And you see also apathyboy agree is not a good idea to put this news=
 online, and that is the problem, =A0when AP put online his news he don't talk=
 with nobody, he don't hear nobody =A0WindMeUp, Capretta, Sjah other=
 developers .. nobody
>=A0 =A0>=A0Only today maybe after some days news are online ......
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>=A0 =A0He talked with everyone who botherd to show up to the planned
>=A0 =A0organizational meeting...you know the one YOU didn't show up for. AP
>=A0 =A0posted his thoughts abouit the roadmap so that people could think about
>=A0 =A0it and bring their questions inputs and concerns to the community=
 during
>=A0 =A0the meeting. It;s that simple.
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>=A0 =A0You didn't consult or talk to the community when you started a closed
>=A0 =A0development email list only for certain envolution developers.
>=A0 =A0Envolution was founded on the principles that development would always
>=A0 =A0remain open. But took it upon yourself to ignore that and your=
 agreement
>=A0 =A0with the other three founders about keeping Envolution development open
>=A0 =A0to everyone. I aim to keep Envolution open to all...not just your=
 staff.
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>=A0 =A0If you would like to discuss this more let me know and I'll post your
>=A0 =A0emails for all to see for themsleves.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0Zoom so if you have good consideration of other languages can you tell=
 me wath Italian, French and German comments tell you in respective support=
 sites and in envoltuion.com site ?
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>=A0 =A0Personally Max I know you have been busy stirring up trouble by telling
>=A0 =A0lies and making misrepresentations based on your own perspectives and
>=A0 =A0opinions..they have nothing to do with facts.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0If you don't understand his language do you have ask someone to=
 translate you wath they say ?
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>=A0 =A0Yes I do...or I use a translation tool to at least get an idea of what
>=A0 =A0was said.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0For example i don't understand German language but i found always=
 someone to translate me what they say or to put news in german language.
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>=A0 =A0And your point is what? When AP made this posting on envolution.com
>=A0 =A0there was an expectation that the international sites have at least one
>=A0 =A0person who would translate and post to their support site. But
>=A0 =A0unfortunatley instead of asking fro clarifications and explaination YOU
>=A0 =A0went on a rampage and started spreading your FUD.
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>=A0 =A0Well now there will be guidelines foe all International support sites=
 in
>=A0 =A0the network on handling information and translations. And because YOU
>=A0 =A0didnt come up with the idea I am sure many support site manager will=
 not
>=A0 =A0want to continue being an Official support site. Thats OK too. There
>=A0 =A0will be replacements if it comes to that.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0Oups ...... in the top of your minds you have forgot to remember=
 German dev's(and they are a lot), Spanish dev's, Polish dev's, Belgium,=
 Moroc, Canada etc etc... =A0but i m sure nobody are declassed .. they be=
 simplement missed ......:))
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>=A0 =A0You have no idea whats on the top of our minds...had you attended the
>=A0 =A0meeting perhaps you would have. But unless you have a crystal ball you
>=A0 =A0are only speculating.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0And tell me Zoom, who give you right of delete news in envolution.com=
 ?
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>=A0 =A0OK what news did I delete? I havn't deleted anything. If you are going
>=A0 =A0to make accusations then at least be man enough to be specific.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0I remember that you don't are PM and anyway nobody hear responsable of=
 envolution.com site ..... he is Sjah.
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>=A0 =A0>=A0TiMax
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>=A0 =A0Are you speaking for Sjah? As far as I know Sjah can speak for himself.
>=A0 =A0He attended the meeting I believe. You didn't.
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>=A0 =A0Responsibilty for the envolution website, DNS, and domains are my
>=A0 =A0responsibility. I pay for the hosting and provide the DNS etc. I didn't
>=A0 =A0ask you to quit..and I didn't ask you to give up those
>=A0 =A0responsibilities...you did it on your own and in order to ensure
>=A0 =A0Envolution stays totally open development I asked you to transfer=
 thoese
>=A0 =A0responsibilities to me. You agreed and did just that. So get over it
>=A0 =A0already Max.
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>=A0 =A0Zoom
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