Re: [Envolution-devel] the future of eNvolution?

[Scott K. <sc...@ki...>]

On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 22:57, TiMax wrote:
> Do you have read all comments in italian language ? and in french language ?  and in german language ? i think not ...... 
> 

I don't read every comment in the English language either, so whats your
point?

> Anyway yes, that is my opinions and you MUST respect that,  so if you don't want to put my news online no problem for me, maybe for other people yes ...
> 

I will not put any content on the website that comatains obvious false
statements for anyone.

> And you see also apathyboy agree is not a good idea to put this news online, and that is the problem,  when AP put online his news he don't talk with nobody, he don't hear nobody  WindMeUp, Capretta, Sjah other developers .. nobody 
> Only today maybe after some days news are online ......
> 

He talked with everyone who botherd to show up to the planned
organizational meeting...you know the one YOU didn't show up for. AP
posted his thoughts abouit the roadmap so that people could think about
it and bring their questions inputs and concerns to the community during
the meeting. It;s that simple.

You didn't consult or talk to the community when you started a closed
development email list only for certain envolution developers.
Envolution was founded on the principles that development would always
remain open. But took it upon yourself to ignore that and your agreement
with the other three founders about keeping Envolution development open
to everyone. I aim to keep Envolution open to all...not just your staff.

If you would like to discuss this more let me know and I'll post your
emails for all to see for themsleves.


> Zoom so if you have good consideration of other languages can you tell me wath Italian, French and German comments tell you in respective support sites and in envoltuion.com site ?
> 

Personally Max I know you have been busy stirring up trouble by telling
lies and making misrepresentations based on your own perspectives and
opinions..they have nothing to do with facts.

> If you don't understand his language do you have ask someone to translate you wath they say ?   
> 

Yes I do...or I use a translation tool to at least get an idea of what
was said.

> For example i don't understand German language but i found always someone to translate me what they say or to put news in german language. 
> 

And your point is what? When AP made this posting on envolution.com
there was an expectation that the international sites have at least one
person who would translate and post to their support site. But
unfortunatley instead of asking fro clarifications and explaination YOU
went on a rampage and started spreading your FUD. 

Well now there will be guidelines foe all International support sites in
the network on handling information and translations. And because YOU
didnt come up with the idea I am sure many support site manager will not
want to continue being an Official support site. Thats OK too. There
will be replacements if it comes to that.

> Oups ...... in the top of your minds you have forgot to remember German dev's(and they are a lot), Spanish dev's, Polish dev's, Belgium, Moroc, Canada etc etc...  but i m sure nobody are declassed .. they be simplement missed ......:))
> 

You have no idea whats on the top of our minds...had you attended the
meeting perhaps you would have. But unless you have a crystal ball you
are only speculating.

> And tell me Zoom, who give you right of delete news in envolution.com ?

OK what news did I delete? I havn't deleted anything. If you are going
to make accusations then at least be man enough to be specific. 

> I remember that you don't are PM and anyway nobody hear responsable of envolution.com site ..... he is Sjah.
> 
> TiMax  
> 
> 

Are you speaking for Sjah? As far as I know Sjah can speak for himself.
He attended the meeting I believe. You didn't.

Responsibilty for the envolution website, DNS, and domains are my
responsibility. I pay for the hosting and provide the DNS etc. I didn't
ask you to quit..and I didn't ask you to give up those
responsibilities...you did it on your own and in order to ensure
Envolution stays totally open development I asked you to transfer thoese
responsibilities to me. You agreed and did just that. So get over it
already Max.

Zoom