[Envolution-devel] Power Mongers

[Denver P. Jr. <den...@co...>]

I stopped showing up because you were running everything.  Wrong the
idea of a organization structure was NOT to dictate to the community but
to be in a better position to handle the community and its direction,
ideas and inputs.

I suggested the 501-3C to Brian for funding non-profit projects like
promotion, paid programmers and the like.  I NEVER suggested a company
for profit.  But here we are again back to calling for organization when
this could have been done a year ago.  Why would I say you took almost
total control and usurped everyone else's job?  Because myself and
others who confided in me told me so.  After it was decided not to go
the route of a organization structure but stick to your idea of a
programmers structure I was asked to promote and market by Brian.  Yet,
everyday no tasks were assign to me and you went ahead in your capacity
as lead programmer and take over marketing and promotion and everything
else under the sun.

I certainly hope that does not occur again.

-----Original Message-----
From: env...@li...
[mailto:env...@li...] On Behalf Of Scott
Kindley
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:07 PM
To: Evolution-Dev-List
Subject: RE: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 14:21, Denver Prophit Jr. wrote:
> This all goes back to when I talked with brian about a structure in
> place to handle every aspect of a community.  Remember that Scott?
But
> you tool control of everything and left little for anyone else to do.
> 

And as Brian agreed we shouldn't and couldn't "handle a community" as
you put it! It's too bad you didn't continue to show up for the rest of
the meetings we had or else maybe you would have known that. The
community doesn't need the likes of you, or me, or anyone else to
dictate to them what should or shouldn't be done. It's basically run by
consensus. So either accept it or don't I don't care. If you want a
business to run, go establish one...cause this is not a business. It's
an open source project.

This isn't a place where one person or set of people govern others.
Instead it is a community of volunteers who each choose when, where, and
if they want to participate. It is unfortunate that some consider
volunteer projects to be businesses where attendance is mandatory and
expected. Instead Brian, Max, Brandon, and I prefer that people who wish
to participate do so in an environment which is receptive. That is
precisely what I mean by being proactive...but it also means that we
can't badger people to participate.

As for taking control...I did no such thing. I was the one who drafted
and published the articles about turning over envolution management to
the community...no one including you stepped up to the plate to do so.
So don't give me that crap that I took over and left everyone else out.

All I did Denver was suggest that official support sites pick a single
person to monitor and particpate on this email list to keep abreast of
development changes and issues. Thats all! Sounds to me like your trying
to start a flame war or something. 

Zoom



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