From: Strange, J. <Joh...@ma...> - 2003-08-05 13:50:44
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Well, I've deleted my envolution installation and decided to move on to another project simply cause everyone involved in the petty fighting, name calling, and general trash being brought forth on the mailing list. I hope that everyone can take a step back and resolve their problems privately and not on a devel list. Cause right now you guys *ALL* look bad, not bad, but really bad, and I've been on a lot of mailing lists and this is the first one where I've seen a project self destruct. Good luck in the future, - One Ex envolution user |
From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-05 14:22:58
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:50:33 -0400, Strange, John wrote: >=A0 =A0I hope that everyone can take a step back and resolve their problems >=A0 =A0privately and not on a devel list. You are right, very right, but we can't resolve these problems privately= because this is a problem to all community and to lot and lot of people. So we must use this mailing list, also because this is our unique mailing= list and sure we can't now open one new off topics mailing list for that Max |
From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-05 16:06:32
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On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 09:22, TiMax wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:50:33 -0400, Strange, John wrote: > > I hope that everyone can take a step back and resolve their problems > > privately and not on a devel list. > > You are right, very right, but we can't resolve these problems privately because this is a problem to all community and to lot and lot of people. > > So we must use this mailing list, also because this is our unique mailing list and sure we can't now open one new off topics mailing list for that > > Max > No Max this meailing list is for development of the Envoluytion code. Not to argue and flame. So either talk about code development or unsubscribe! Last warning! Zoom |
From: Theresa A. S. <the...@ea...> - 2003-08-05 17:09:28
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I want out! I am so tired of checking my email every morning and recieiving well over 20 messages all junk and arguments from others. So tired and mad you made me resort to it as well. But before I do, I want to say one thing about the management of this community and this does have something to do with further development and also this is not prompted by TiMax or anybody else for that matter, I am my own independant person and although I have sat back and watched this from a distance I am tired of it. I think if the managment of one community could be put under such great scrutiny that would result in such chaos then they need to step back from the situation and maybe stop from performing in other actions that could jeopardize the community anymore. So here I say that maybe the management needs to resign and an general election needs to be held for new management. Then that way the developers can get to doing what they do best and make code for eNvolution. Ok that is now off my chest and if someone could point me to the door I will quietly leave without any further comment. Thanks, Theresa Angela Sanchez Theresa_Rose PS. This is like poison that has started to spread through the body, it may start small but it starts to infect the whole entire body. Just something to think about, because I got Cancer and that is what I am comparing the eNvolution community to right now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Strange, John" <Joh...@ma...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:50 AM Subject: [Envolution-devel] This is ridiculous > Well, > > I've deleted my envolution installation and decided to move on to another > project simply cause everyone involved in the petty fighting, name calling, > and general trash being brought forth on the mailing list. > > I hope that everyone can take a step back and resolve their problems > privately and not on a devel list. Cause right now you guys *ALL* look bad, > not bad, but really bad, and I've been on a lot of mailing lists and this is > the first one where I've seen a project self destruct. > > Good luck in the future, > > - One Ex envolution user > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > |
From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-05 17:46:12
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On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 12:08, Theresa Angela Sanchez wrote: > I want out! > > I am so tired of checking my email every morning and recieiving well over 20 > messages all junk and arguments from others. So tired and mad you made me > resort to it as well. > On a side not Teresa you can have a daily difest setn out to you instead of an email for each email sent to the list. Just change your preferences in the link at the bottom of this email. > But before I do, I want to say one thing about the management of this > community and this does have something to do with further development and > also this is not prompted by TiMax or anybody else for that matter, I am my > own independant person and although I have sat back and watched this from a > distance I am tired of it. I think if the managment of one community could > be put under such great scrutiny that would result in such chaos then they > need to step back from the situation and maybe stop from performing in other > actions that could jeopardize the community anymore. Scrutiny is welcomed. As is peer review. However the PM and leadership od Envoution after the changeover was never given a change to do a single thing except for continually defend themselves from personal attacks. > So here I say that > maybe the management needs to resign and an general election needs to be > held for new management. Then that way the developers can get to doing what > they do best and make code for eNvolution. > The new PM was appointed by me. He will assign his staff positions as he sees fit based on who wants to participate and what is available to him. Envolution is not a democracy based on a polularity vote. If that was the case I believe we would all be speaking Italian as they are the majority in number and obvisouly support Italian interests over Envolution as a viable project. > Ok that is now off my chest and if someone could point me to the door I will > quietly leave without any further comment. > > Thanks, > Theresa Angela Sanchez > Theresa_Rose > > PS. > This is like poison that has started to spread through the body, it may > start small but it starts to infect the whole entire body. Just something > to think about, because I got Cancer and that is what I am comparing the > eNvolution community to right now. > I am glad you have vented your frustrations. I share many of those same frustrations as well. And to prevent any further flaming I have unsubscribed the flamers and have prevented their re-subscription. So you don't have to leave and development goes on. Thank you, Zoom |
From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-08-05 22:36:12
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I'm glad to here this! :) gatoNero envo.de-staff Am Die, 2003-08-05 um 19.44 schrieb Scott Kindley: > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 12:08, Theresa Angela Sanchez wrote: > > I want out! > > > > I am so tired of checking my email every morning and recieiving well over 20 > > messages all junk and arguments from others. So tired and mad you made me > > resort to it as well. > > > > On a side not Teresa you can have a daily difest setn out to you instead > of an email for each email sent to the list. Just change your > preferences in the link at the bottom of this email. > > > But before I do, I want to say one thing about the management of this > > community and this does have something to do with further development and > > also this is not prompted by TiMax or anybody else for that matter, I am my > > own independant person and although I have sat back and watched this from a > > distance I am tired of it. I think if the managment of one community could > > be put under such great scrutiny that would result in such chaos then they > > need to step back from the situation and maybe stop from performing in other > > actions that could jeopardize the community anymore. > > Scrutiny is welcomed. As is peer review. However the PM and leadership > od Envoution after the changeover was never given a change to do a > single thing except for continually defend themselves from personal > attacks. > > > So here I say that > > maybe the management needs to resign and an general election needs to be > > held for new management. Then that way the developers can get to doing what > > they do best and make code for eNvolution. > > > > The new PM was appointed by me. He will assign his staff positions as he > sees fit based on who wants to participate and what is available to him. > > Envolution is not a democracy based on a polularity vote. If that was > the case I believe we would all be speaking Italian as they are the > majority in number and obvisouly support Italian interests over > Envolution as a viable project. > > > Ok that is now off my chest and if someone could point me to the door I will > > quietly leave without any further comment. > > > > Thanks, > > Theresa Angela Sanchez > > Theresa_Rose > > > > PS. > > This is like poison that has started to spread through the body, it may > > start small but it starts to infect the whole entire body. Just something > > to think about, because I got Cancer and that is what I am comparing the > > eNvolution community to right now. > > > > I am glad you have vented your frustrations. I share many of those same > frustrations as well. And to prevent any further flaming I have > unsubscribed the flamers and have prevented their re-subscription. > > So you don't have to leave and development goes on. > > Thank you, > > Zoom > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |