From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-01 06:32:57
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First, I would like to thank all of you have sent me emails, messages, and= made calls from around the globe, and especially those from Italy. It is= for this reason that I have delayed in writing this news, I'd like to= respond all of your messeges but there are too many, and this is only the= beginning. I'm very astonished to see how many people want to follow me in= this my new project. In fact, initially I thought it would be only a personal project, and only= in Italian, but now many developers have decided to follow me, and others= will come. Many have not worked on eNvolution and then this will be my= project, but much bigger, with the contribution of many other developers,= and naturally, multilanguage. Second, some have misinterpreted my statemnt "I've decided to resign as= eNvolution Project Manager" to mean that I am leaving the eNvoluion= development staff all together. This is so. First of all - I'm one of 4= eNvolution founders and for this reason, I will forever be part of the= eNvolution project. I've only resigned as Project Manager, and I've given= this positions responsabilities temporarily to Zoom and then to ApathyBoy,= just like the original responsibility was shared between myself and= Madhatt, but sure now my concentration and time will be give to another= project. Working as Project Manager is a very binding and time consuming and demands= a firm presence on support, development, CVS, and to managing the general= organization of several developers, countless users, all of which are in= multiple languages. It feel along the lines of professional work and for= this reason, it must be noted that in this case it was not a routine work,= but it was also a structure and organization and development work,= beginning from zero. Surely you all understand that because of the stress envolved in this= position that it is only natural to rotate rolls. This is why we have a= staff to help share the burden. You surely understand that in this= condition became natural to rotate rolls, a staff exist for this too. In short, all I am saying is that my resignation is only a normal roll= rotation, forecasted some time ago, within the eNvolution project and= development staff. MaxDev Project In recent news, I've written about the birthing of my new project, MaxDev,= and I would like to take a moment to try to explain things a little bit= better. To manage contents, dynamic web site, a simple CMS is not more sufficient= today, users and admins have changed their necessities, they change them= every time and they need to have new and more powerful tools and= integrations, for E-Commerce, Intranet, Multisites, E-Learning, Workflow,= managing multimedia, modules, blocks and add-ons. And it's obvious that all this cannot be developed only within a core. Then in my MaxDev project we're working to create a site for professionals= and active contributors, developers, translators, editors, promoters,= graphics and more, where it will be developed: integration of Postnuke,= eNvolution, Oscommerce and other CMS systems, like special version of this= system to manage E-Commerce, E-Learning, intranet, Workflow, ERP, hotels= and restaurant administration and many more. Other tools can be ibryds or lite versions (perfect to be installed on= hosting with minimal features) or particular versions of these systems, all= with professional development and code cleaning. Entry in this site will be free, but binded: there will be different kind of= users determined by activity and contributions that everyone can take to= develop this site. Then anyone can entry, read, comment, but asking for professional support,= download particular kind of software or special versions will depend form= contribution that anyone give to community: you could be an active user, a= person who contribute developing, make graphic, translating, writing= documents, reviews, and all this will be measured from quality not= quantity. MaxDev users and developers will have others obligations, moral too, to= respect, but many advantages: first of all, to work in a community of= people who develop for professional use, in schools, Universities,= associations, big and small industries, big community portals and more. Then, it will be not easy... but very exciting to be present. If you're interested mailing lists are operative... you can find them here: http://sviluppo.openenterprise.it/mailman/listinfo In Italian and English. Note that dev mailing lists (developers) aren't free, and then if you're= interested to active participations write to in...@ma... Now is already active our private cvs and as soon as possible we will active= other resources. TiMax www.maxdev.com ti...@ma... |
From: Maxdev <ti...@ma...> - 2003-08-01 06:18:50
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First, I would like to thank all of you have sent me emails, messages, and= made calls from around the globe, and especially those from Italy. It is= for this reason that I have delayed in writing this news, I'd like to= respond all of your messeges but there are too many, and this is only the= beginning. I'm very astonished to see how many people want to follow me in= this my new project. In fact, initially I thought it would be only a personal project, and only= in Italian, but now many developers have decided to follow me, and others= will come. Many have not worked on eNvolution and then this will be my= project, but much bigger, with the contribution of many other developers,= and naturally, multilanguage. Second, some have misinterpreted my statemnt "I've decided to resign as= eNvolution Project Manager" to mean that I am leaving the eNvoluion= development staff all together. This is so. First of all - I'm one of 4= eNvolution founders and for this reason, I will forever be part of the= eNvolution project. I've only resigned as Project Manager, and I've given= this positions responsabilities temporarily to Zoom and then to ApathyBoy,= just like the original responsibility was shared between myself and= Madhatt, but sure now my concentration and time will be give to another= project. Working as Project Manager is a very binding and time consuming and demands= a firm presence on support, development, CVS, and to managing the general= organization of several developers, countless users, all of which are in= multiple languages. It feel along the lines of professional work and for= this reason, it must be noted that in this case it was not a routine work,= but it was also a structure and organization and development work,= beginning from zero. Surely you all understand that because of the stress envolved in this= position that it is only natural to rotate rolls. This is why we have a= staff to help share the burden. You surely understand that in this= condition became natural to rotate rolls, a staff exist for this too. In short, all I am saying is that my resignation is only a normal roll= rotation, forecasted some time ago, within the eNvolution project and= development staff. MaxDev Project In recent news, I've written about the birthing of my new project, MaxDev,= and I would like to take a moment to try to explain things a little bit= better. To manage contents, dynamic web site, a simple CMS is not more sufficient= today, users and admins have changed their necessities, they change them= every time and they need to have new and more powerful tools and= integrations, for E-Commerce, Intranet, Multisites, E-Learning, Workflow,= managing multimedia, modules, blocks and add-ons. And it's obvious that all this cannot be developed only within a core. Then in my MaxDev project we're working to create a site for professionals= and active contributors, developers, translators, editors, promoters,= graphics and more, where it will be developed: integration of Postnuke,= eNvolution, Oscommerce and other CMS systems, like special version of this= system to manage E-Commerce, E-Learning, intranet, Workflow, ERP, hotels= and restaurant administration and many more. Other tools can be ibryds or lite versions (perfect to be installed on= hosting with minimal features) or particular versions of these systems, all= with professional development and code cleaning. Entry in this site will be free, but binded: there will be different kind of= users determined by activity and contributions that everyone can take to= develop this site. Then anyone can entry, read, comment, but asking for professional support,= download particular kind of software or special versions will depend form= contribution that anyone give to community: you could be an active user, a= person who contribute developing, make graphic, translating, writing= documents, reviews, and all this will be measured from quality not= quantity. MaxDev users and developers will have others obligations, moral too, to= respect, but many advantages: first of all, to work in a community of= people who develop for professional use, in schools, Universities,= associations, big and small industries, big community portals and more. Then, it will be not easy... but very exciting to be present. If you're interested mailing lists are operative... you can find them here: http://sviluppo.openenterprise.it/mailman/listinfo In Italian and English. Note that dev mailing lists (developers) aren't free, and then if you're= interested to active participations write to in...@ma... Now is already active our private cvs and as soon as possible we will active= other resources. TiMax www.maxdev.com ti...@ma... |
From: Eric B. <apa...@xe...> - 2003-08-01 18:53:45
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Good luck with your new project TiMax. This is however the envolution development email list and all postings should be about the development of Envolution. In the future I would ask that all announcements that do not deal with the development of Envolution to be announced through proper channels. I would be happy to have these kinds of postings placed in the main Envolution news so that the most amount of people can read it. If you would like I will have this article put on Envolution.com, just let me know :) Thanks Eric Barr (a.k.a. ApathyBoy) Project Manager - Envolution ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maxdev" <ti...@ma...> To: <Env...@li...> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:19 AM Subject: [Envolution-devel] MaxDev Project First, I would like to thank all of you have sent me emails, messages, and made calls from around the globe, and especially those from Italy. It is for this reason that I have delayed in writing this news, I'd like to respond all of your messeges but there are too many, and this is only the beginning. I'm very astonished to see how many people want to follow me in this my new project. In fact, initially I thought it would be only a personal project, and only in Italian, but now many developers have decided to follow me, and others will come. Many have not worked on eNvolution and then this will be my project, but much bigger, with the contribution of many other developers, and naturally, multilanguage. Second, some have misinterpreted my statemnt "I've decided to resign as eNvolution Project Manager" to mean that I am leaving the eNvoluion development staff all together. This is so. First of all - I'm one of 4 eNvolution founders and for this reason, I will forever be part of the eNvolution project. I've only resigned as Project Manager, and I've given this positions responsabilities temporarily to Zoom and then to ApathyBoy, just like the original responsibility was shared between myself and Madhatt, but sure now my concentration and time will be give to another project. Working as Project Manager is a very binding and time consuming and demands a firm presence on support, development, CVS, and to managing the general organization of several developers, countless users, all of which are in multiple languages. It feel along the lines of professional work and for this reason, it must be noted that in this case it was not a routine work, but it was also a structure and organization and development work, beginning from zero. Surely you all understand that because of the stress envolved in this position that it is only natural to rotate rolls. This is why we have a staff to help share the burden. You surely understand that in this condition became natural to rotate rolls, a staff exist for this too. In short, all I am saying is that my resignation is only a normal roll rotation, forecasted some time ago, within the eNvolution project and development staff. MaxDev Project In recent news, I've written about the birthing of my new project, MaxDev, and I would like to take a moment to try to explain things a little bit better. To manage contents, dynamic web site, a simple CMS is not more sufficient today, users and admins have changed their necessities, they change them every time and they need to have new and more powerful tools and integrations, for E-Commerce, Intranet, Multisites, E-Learning, Workflow, managing multimedia, modules, blocks and add-ons. And it's obvious that all this cannot be developed only within a core. Then in my MaxDev project we're working to create a site for professionals and active contributors, developers, translators, editors, promoters, graphics and more, where it will be developed: integration of Postnuke, eNvolution, Oscommerce and other CMS systems, like special version of this system to manage E-Commerce, E-Learning, intranet, Workflow, ERP, hotels and restaurant administration and many more. Other tools can be ibryds or lite versions (perfect to be installed on hosting with minimal features) or particular versions of these systems, all with professional development and code cleaning. Entry in this site will be free, but binded: there will be different kind of users determined by activity and contributions that everyone can take to develop this site. Then anyone can entry, read, comment, but asking for professional support, download particular kind of software or special versions will depend form contribution that anyone give to community: you could be an active user, a person who contribute developing, make graphic, translating, writing documents, reviews, and all this will be measured from quality not quantity. MaxDev users and developers will have others obligations, moral too, to respect, but many advantages: first of all, to work in a community of people who develop for professional use, in schools, Universities, associations, big and small industries, big community portals and more. Then, it will be not easy... but very exciting to be present. If you're interested mailing lists are operative... you can find them here: http://sviluppo.openenterprise.it/mailman/listinfo In Italian and English. Note that dev mailing lists (developers) aren't free, and then if you're interested to active participations write to in...@ma... Now is already active our private cvs and as soon as possible we will active other resources. TiMax www.maxdev.com ti...@ma... ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-01 19:02:22
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PLEASE DON'T BE IPOCRIT ...... I HAVE POST THIS NEWS IN ENVOLUTION.COM AND= SOMEONE CENSURED ME AND DELETE MY NEWS ............ TiMax On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:52:54 -0500, Eric Barr wrote: >=A0 =A0Good luck with your new project TiMax. This is however the envolution >=A0 =A0development email list and all postings should be about the development= of >=A0 =A0Envolution. In the future I would ask that all announcements that do= not >=A0 =A0deal with the development of Envolution to be announced through proper >=A0 =A0channels. I would be happy to have these kinds of postings placed in= the >=A0 =A0main Envolution news so that the most amount of people can read it. If= you >=A0 =A0would like I will have this article put on Envolution.com, just let me= know >=A0 =A0:) > >=A0 =A0Thanks >=A0 =A0Eric Barr (a.k.a. ApathyBoy) >=A0 =A0Project Manager - Envolution |
From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-01 19:08:27
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On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:01, TiMax wrote: > PLEASE DON'T BE IPOCRIT ...... I HAVE POST THIS NEWS IN ENVOLUTION.COM AND SOMEONE CENSURED ME AND DELETE MY NEWS ............ > > TiMax > First I dont know what an ipocrit is..I think you mean Hippocrit instead. Also your post was not deleted it was publish a litle while ago by me peronally. Buy some glasses Max. http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10008 Zoom |
From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-01 19:15:41
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yes is Hippocrit ... sorry ... next time i write in italian and i let you= transalate it ........ yes news is there but people must buy very BIG GLASSES to read it ...... when someone put a news in very hidden place .... i call it always censure= ..... TiMax On 01 Aug 2003 14:07:22 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote: >=A0 =A0First I dont know what an ipocrit is..I think you mean Hippocrit >=A0 =A0instead. > >=A0 =A0Also your post was not deleted it was publish a litle while ago by me >=A0 =A0peronally. > >=A0 =A0Buy some glasses Max. > >=A0 =A0http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=3DNews&file=3Darticle&sid=3D10008 > >=A0 =A0Zoom |
From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-01 19:22:44
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On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:14, TiMax wrote: > yes is Hippocrit ... sorry ... next time i write in italian and i let you transalate it ........ > > yes news is there but people must buy very BIG GLASSES to read it ...... > > when someone put a news in very hidden place .... i call it always censure ..... > > TiMax > Putting in on the FrontPage is hidden? I think you have been drinking too many beers. Zoom |
From: putino <pu...@pu...> - 2003-08-01 19:31:12
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On this page: http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=Cnl_Home the only reference to MaxDev Project is bottom right between CMS News, but almost invisible. It seems me so strange because this is the only news that have been so hidden in last days. Maybe because is it a TiMax news ? Please became more serious. Bye, putino Scott Kindley Scrive: > On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:14, TiMax wrote: >> yes is Hippocrit ... sorry ... next time i write in italian and i let you transalate it ........ >> >> yes news is there but people must buy very BIG GLASSES to read it ...... >> >> when someone put a news in very hidden place .... i call it always censure ..... >> >> TiMax >> > > Putting in on the FrontPage is hidden? > > I think you have been drinking too many beers. > > Zoom > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
From: Eric B. <apa...@xe...> - 2003-08-01 19:40:38
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Please go to envolution.com.. his posting is on the front page. Also, his news posting is a posting about a different CMS not about envolution. The main news is reserved for envolution news at least as far as i am aware. This is the reason we have a seperate section for other CMS's. Eric Barr (a.k.a. ApathyBoy) Project Manager - Envolution ----- Original Message ----- From: "putino" <pu...@pu...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: [Envolution-devel] Re: MaxDev Project > On this page: > > http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=Cnl_Home > > the only reference to MaxDev Project is bottom right between CMS News, but > almost invisible. It seems me so strange because this is the only news that > have been so hidden in last days. Maybe because is it a TiMax news ? > Please became more serious. > > Bye, putino > > Scott Kindley Scrive: > > > On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:14, TiMax wrote: > >> yes is Hippocrit ... sorry ... next time i write in italian and i let you transalate it ........ > >> > >> yes news is there but people must buy very BIG GLASSES to read it ...... > >> > >> when someone put a news in very hidden place .... i call it always censure ..... > >> > >> TiMax > >> > > > > Putting in on the FrontPage is hidden? > > > > I think you have been drinking too many beers. > > > > Zoom > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Envolution-devel mailing list > > Env...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > |
From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-01 20:35:03
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:39:48 -0500, Eric Barr wrote: >=A0 =A0Also, his news posting is a posting about a different CMS not about >=A0 =A0envolution. The main news is reserved for envolution news at least as= far as >=A0 =A0i am aware. This is the reason we have a seperate section for other= CMS's. Which other CMS if i talk about eNvolution, eNvolution and others,= eNvolution and integrations with other programs for ecommerce elearning etc= ......?? So that is not envolution ?? Max |
From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-01 19:40:52
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On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:31, putino wrote: > On this page: > > http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=Cnl_Home > > the only reference to MaxDev Project is bottom right between CMS News, but > almost invisible. It seems me so strange because this is the only news that > have been so hidden in last days. Maybe because is it a TiMax news ? > Please became more serious. > > Bye, putino > It's been published and is currently listed on the index page as the number 2 article. So when anyone visits http://www.envolution.com/ People can see the news and click on it if they desire. Get over it. Zoom |
From: saytheb <sa...@pl...> - 2003-08-01 19:39:41
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In all honesty my site must censor a lot of it's content. The censorship you mean is not censorship at all as it's still publicly available. In the case of my site, it's simply removed and never shown at all or brought up. That's true censorship. Without it, the site would be a madhouse. -saytheb -----Original Message----- From: env...@li... [mailto:env...@li...] On Behalf Of TiMax Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:15 PM To: env...@li... Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] MaxDev Project yes is Hippocrit ... sorry ... next time i write in italian and i let you transalate it ........=20 yes news is there but people must buy very BIG GLASSES to read it ...... when someone put a news in very hidden place .... i call it always censure ..... TiMax On 01 Aug 2003 14:07:22 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote: >=A0 =A0First I dont know what an ipocrit is..I think you mean Hippocrit >=A0 =A0instead. > >=A0 =A0Also your post was not deleted it was publish a litle while ago = by me >=A0 =A0peronally. > >=A0 =A0Buy some glasses Max. > >=A0 = =A0http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=3DNews&file=3Darticle&sid=3D1= 0008 > >=A0 =A0Zoom ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01 /01 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
From: Furbo <fu...@si...> - 2003-08-01 19:51:26
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Friday, August 1, 2003, 3:31:01 PM, putino wrote: > On this page: > http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=Cnl_Home > the only reference to MaxDev Project is bottom right between CMS News, but > almost invisible. It seems me so strange because this is the only news that > have been so hidden in last days. Maybe because is it a TiMax news ? > Please became more serious. > Bye, putino OK my 2 cents... THIS IS ALL STUPID.. it is envolution.com a site about what? eNvolution! not Microsoft, not AOL, not postnuke, not legos... eNvolution. the news was about a non-envolution CMS correct? so why does it have to be on the front page? And with regards to where it was placed (bottom) that has been the design for a long time so the New staff is not doing anything sneaky. Cut them a break. Lots of portal type sites Organize news, CNN, MTV, NY Times, yahoo, msn, etc... and even if it was about envolution, NOT ALL news submitted to a site has to be on the Main page. WHY have a 'post on homepage' option then?? I personally feel more news should be removed from the envolution.com home page.. but that's another story. When i visit envolution.com i like to see important envolution related articles on the home page.. if i want general news i go somewhere else, or CMS news at Portalzine.de even.. I dont expect to goto php-nuke.com and see what the envolution project is doing on the home page! I think IF a project website is Nice enough to even post articles about non project news that's a BONUS. Does MySQL.com post everything about ProgreSQL? or MS SQL Server.. NO, they post about mysql or things that relate to mysql. and its not censored.. its been Organized thats all.. if people dont like the area the CMS news displays in, complain about the layout then (thats old layout anyway) but not the censorship.. AND QUIT WITH THE NAME CALLING! and multiple postings.. its childish write 1 email there is my 20 cents.. keep the change! -- Furbo Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -Pablo Picasso |
From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-01 20:42:57
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:51:18 -0400, Furbo wrote: >=A0 =A0OK my 2 cents... =A0=A0THIS IS ALL STUPID.. it is envolution.com =A0a site >=A0 =A0about what? =A0eNvolution! =A0not Microsoft, not AOL, not postnuke, not >=A0 =A0legos... eNvolution. =A0=A0=A0the news was about a non-envolution CMS >=A0 =A0correct? NO the news is about developement of eNvolution and his integration with= ecommerce elearning etc etc ...... so this is an expansion of eNvolution ........... or for you is bad thing to think some expansion of eNvolution ? TiMax |
From: Furbo <fu...@si...> - 2003-08-01 20:51:46
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Friday, August 1, 2003, 4:42:00 PM, TiMax wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 15:51:18 -0400, Furbo wrote: >> OK my 2 cents... THIS IS ALL STUPID.. it is envolution.com a site >> about what? eNvolution! not Microsoft, not AOL, not postnuke, not >> legos... eNvolution. the news was about a non-envolution CMS >> correct? > NO > the news is about developement of eNvolution and his integration with ecommerce elearning etc etc ...... > so this is an expansion of eNvolution ........... > or for you is bad thing to think some expansion of eNvolution ? > TiMax Max.. did you READ the rest of my email or just see that statement and reply? Read the whole email and you will see the line that NOT ALL NEWS needs to be on the main page hence the 'publish on homepage' option. What goes on the homepage is up to editors.. not the person who submits news. As i stated in my email i think LESS should go on the main page and more should be moved to the other areas.. and YES i agree the layout is kind of confusing.. but that's the layout that you were using for a long time so no one can blame zoom and apathy for where things show up now.. -- Furbo Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -Pablo Picasso |
From: putino <pu...@pu...> - 2003-08-01 20:10:23
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I've only said my opinion about this, for me is really hidden... second, if you've read that news, you can understand that MaxDev is not a new CMS project, but somewhat different... I don't understand why you have posted it in other CMS' stories. Otherwise, I'm I and I respond to my opinion only to myself. It seems strange to me than I've written this mail. Bye, putino Furbo Scrive: > > Friday, August 1, 2003, 3:31:01 PM, putino wrote: > >> On this page: > >> http://www.envolution.com/index.php?name=Cnl_Home > >> the only reference to MaxDev Project is bottom right between CMS News, but >> almost invisible. It seems me so strange because this is the only news that >> have been so hidden in last days. Maybe because is it a TiMax news ? >> Please became more serious. > >> Bye, putino > > OK my 2 cents... THIS IS ALL STUPID.. it is envolution.com a site > about what? eNvolution! not Microsoft, not AOL, not postnuke, not > legos... eNvolution. the news was about a non-envolution CMS > correct? so why does it have to be on the front page? And with > regards to where it was placed (bottom) that has been the design for a > long time so the New staff is not doing anything sneaky. Cut them a > break. Lots of portal type sites Organize news, CNN, MTV, NY Times, > yahoo, msn, etc... > > and even if it was about envolution, NOT ALL news submitted to a site > has to be on the Main page. WHY have a 'post on homepage' option > then?? I personally feel more news should be removed from the > envolution.com home page.. but that's another story. > When i visit envolution.com i like to see important envolution related > articles on the home page.. if i want general news i go somewhere > else, or CMS news at Portalzine.de even.. I dont expect to goto > php-nuke.com and see what the envolution project is doing on the home page! > > I think IF a project website is Nice enough to even post articles about > non project news that's a BONUS. Does MySQL.com post everything about > ProgreSQL? or MS SQL Server.. NO, they post about mysql or things that > relate to mysql. > > and its not censored.. its been Organized thats all.. if people dont like > the area the CMS news displays in, complain about the layout then (thats old > layout anyway) but not the censorship.. > > AND QUIT WITH THE NAME CALLING! and multiple postings.. its childish > write 1 email > > there is my 20 cents.. keep the change! > > > -- > Furbo > > Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. > -Pablo Picasso > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
From: Furbo <fu...@si...> - 2003-08-01 20:20:28
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sorry putino.. i was not directing my comment towards you.. but at everyone who is complaining about the timax 'censorship news.. I agree it is not easy to see his news.. but that is not what TiMax complained about.. he said it was deleted.. and then he said it was censored.. then he said Hidden.. NONE of that has happened, yes it could be presented better but that is a Layout issue.. and that layout has been around for a long time... we need a new layout thats all.. Complain to those that made the current theme layout.. not to whomever posted the article and where it got displayed.. they cant help where it goes. Weather or not MaxDev is or is not eVnolution related is besides the point.. not all news is REQUIRED to be on the front page of Any site. thats an editorial decision and my previous e-mail explains how again putino, i did not mean to attack you.. i should have removed your msg.. sorry. :( -- Furbo Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -Pablo Picasso |
From: TiMax <ma...@em...> - 2003-08-01 19:05:03
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OR BETTER ... YOU CAN ALSO DELETE THIS NEWS INSTEAD TO POST IT VERY HIDDEN= ..... THANKS TiMax On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 13:52:54 -0500, Eric Barr wrote: >=A0 =A0Good luck with your new project TiMax. This is however the envolution >=A0 =A0development email list and all postings should be about the development= of >=A0 =A0Envolution. In the future I would ask that all announcements that do= not >=A0 =A0deal with the development of Envolution to be announced through proper >=A0 =A0channels. I would be happy to have these kinds of postings placed in= the >=A0 =A0main Envolution news so that the most amount of people can read it. If= you >=A0 =A0would like I will have this article put on Envolution.com, just let me= know >=A0 =A0:) > >=A0 =A0Thanks >=A0 =A0Eric Barr (a.k.a. ApathyBoy) >=A0 =A0Project Manager - Envolution > >=A0 =A0----- Original Message ----- >=A0 =A0From: "Maxdev" <ti...@ma...> >=A0 =A0To: <Env...@li...> >=A0 =A0Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:19 AM >=A0 =A0Subject: [Envolution-devel] MaxDev Project > > >=A0 =A0First, I would like to thank all of you have sent me emails, messages,= and >=A0 =A0made calls from around the globe, and especially those from Italy. It is= for >=A0 =A0this reason that I have delayed in writing this news, I'd like to= respond >=A0 =A0all of your messeges but there are too many, and this is only the= beginning. >=A0 =A0I'm very astonished to see how many people want to follow me in this my= new >=A0 =A0project. > >=A0 =A0In fact, initially I thought it would be only a personal project, and= only >=A0 =A0in Italian, but now many developers have decided to follow me, and= others >=A0 =A0will come. Many have not worked on eNvolution and then this will be my >=A0 =A0project, but much bigger, with the contribution of many other= developers, >=A0 =A0and naturally, multilanguage. > >=A0 =A0Second, some have misinterpreted my statemnt "I've decided to resign as >=A0 =A0eNvolution Project Manager" to mean that I am leaving the eNvoluion >=A0 =A0development staff all together. This is so. First of all - I'm one of 4 >=A0 =A0eNvolution founders and for this reason, I will forever be part of the >=A0 =A0eNvolution project. I've only resigned as Project Manager, and I've= given >=A0 =A0this positions responsabilities temporarily to Zoom and then to= ApathyBoy, >=A0 =A0just like the original responsibility was shared between myself and= Madhatt, >=A0 =A0but sure now my concentration and time will be give to another project. > >=A0 =A0Working as Project Manager is a very binding and time consuming and= demands >=A0 =A0a firm presence on support, development, CVS, and to managing the= general >=A0 =A0organization of several developers, countless users, all of which are= in >=A0 =A0multiple languages. It feel along the lines of professional work and= for >=A0 =A0this reason, it must be noted that in this case it was not a routine= work, >=A0 =A0but it was also a structure and organization and development work,= beginning >=A0 =A0from zero. >=A0 =A0Surely you all understand that because of the stress envolved in this >=A0 =A0position that it is only natural to rotate rolls. This is why we have a >=A0 =A0staff to help share the burden. You surely understand that in this= condition >=A0 =A0became natural to rotate rolls, a staff exist for this too. >=A0 =A0In short, all I am saying is that my resignation is only a normal roll >=A0 =A0rotation, forecasted some time ago, within the eNvolution project and >=A0 =A0development staff. > > >=A0 =A0MaxDev Project > > >=A0 =A0In recent news, I've written about the birthing of my new project,= MaxDev, >=A0 =A0and I would like to take a moment to try to explain things a little bit >=A0 =A0better. >=A0 =A0To manage contents, dynamic web site, a simple CMS is not more= sufficient >=A0 =A0today, users and admins have changed their necessities, they change= them >=A0 =A0every time and they need to have new and more powerful tools and >=A0 =A0integrations, for E-Commerce, Intranet, Multisites, E-Learning,= Workflow, >=A0 =A0managing multimedia, modules, blocks and add-ons. >=A0 =A0And it's obvious that all this cannot be developed only within a core. > >=A0 =A0Then in my MaxDev project we're working to create a site for= professionals >=A0 =A0and active contributors, developers, translators, editors, promoters, >=A0 =A0graphics and more, where it will be developed: integration of Postnuke, >=A0 =A0eNvolution, Oscommerce and other CMS systems, like special version of= this >=A0 =A0system to manage E-Commerce, E-Learning, intranet, Workflow, ERP, hotels= and >=A0 =A0restaurant administration and many more. > >=A0 =A0Other tools can be ibryds or lite versions (perfect to be installed on >=A0 =A0hosting with minimal features) or particular versions of these systems,= all >=A0 =A0with professional development and code cleaning. >=A0 =A0Entry in this site will be free, but binded: there will be different= kind of >=A0 =A0users determined by activity and contributions that everyone can take= to >=A0 =A0develop this site. > >=A0 =A0Then anyone can entry, read, comment, but asking for professional= support, >=A0 =A0download particular kind of software or special versions will depend= form >=A0 =A0contribution that anyone give to community: you could be an active user,= a >=A0 =A0person who contribute developing, make graphic, translating, writing >=A0 =A0documents, reviews, and all this will be measured from quality not= quantity. > >=A0 =A0MaxDev users and developers will have others obligations, moral too, to >=A0 =A0respect, but many advantages: first of all, to work in a community of= people >=A0 =A0who develop for professional use, in schools, Universities,= associations, >=A0 =A0big and small industries, big community portals and more. > >=A0 =A0Then, it will be not easy... but very exciting to be present. > >=A0 =A0If you're interested mailing lists are operative... you can find them= here: > >=A0 =A0http://sviluppo.openenterprise.it/mailman/listinfo > >=A0 =A0In Italian and English. >=A0 =A0Note that dev mailing lists (developers) aren't free, and then if= you're >=A0 =A0interested to active participations write to in...@ma... > >=A0 =A0Now is already active our private cvs and as soon as possible we will= active >=A0 =A0other resources. > > >=A0 =A0TiMax >=A0 =A0www.maxdev.com >=A0 =A0...@ma... > > >=A0 =A0------------------------------------------------------- >=A0 =A0This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >=A0 =A0Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >=A0 =A0Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >=A0= =A0http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/0= 1 >=A0 =A0_______________________________________________ >=A0 =A0Envolution-devel mailing list >=A0 =A0E...@li... >=A0 =A0https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > >=A0 =A0------------------------------------------------------- >=A0 =A0This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >=A0 =A0Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >=A0 =A0Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >=A0= =A0http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/0= 1 >=A0 =A0_______________________________________________ >=A0 =A0Envolution-devel mailing list >=A0 =A0E...@li... >=A0 =A0https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > >=A0 =A0__________ NOD32 1.471 (20030731) Information __________ > >=A0 =A0This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. >=A0 =A0http://www.nod32.com |
From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-01 19:10:35
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On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:04, TiMax wrote: > OR BETTER ... YOU CAN ALSO DELETE THIS NEWS INSTEAD TO POST IT VERY HIDDEN ..... > > THANKS > > TiMax > It's not hidden. You visit http://www.envolution.com/index.php And it's the 2nd news story listed under Envo News. Right smacck on the front page of the website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glasses are 2 for 1 at Dr. Tavel...shall I make you an apointment? Zoom |