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[Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[<Chr...@t-...>]

Hi friends,

what's going on with the germna-speaking eNvo support-site? Meanwhile
I'm the only active admin and supporter there. I don't hear anything
from Windmeup and Naphta since nearly two eeks. Did there happen any
trouble, I didn't get any notice about it? 

At envo.de there is starting some rumour about that, see the thread "DAS
NERVT ECHT...", which means: "IT'S REALY BORING..."
http://www.germany.envolution.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Arena_Forum&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=447&12

We have some questions about themes, I can't answer. We have some very
active theme-developers, which are representing a big community by
themselfes. They don't know, what in themes changed between 1.2 and
1.2.5FLS.  I can't answer there questions and they aren't able to
develop there themes. (Is there still any use of fontsize setting in
encompass? etc.)

I need some help, or we will get a serious demage in our german
community

hanks for Your help
gatonero/Christoph
 
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Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[TiMax <ma...@em...>]

but are they are to develope any theme ?
are they able to develope something ?
i'm not sure about it .... 

anyway sorry but i don't know german language, so if you want you can post=
 question of your users here and we try to 
answer you ..... 

I talk with Naphta some days ago and i work a lot with Windmeup to prepare=
 new version eNvo125FLS.

@ngelspike working to prepare some guidelines for themes and css 

pani have writed little tutorial to convert postnuke themes to envolution 

sjah have writed tutorials to work with themes zones etc ....

we have writed a readme with features of evno125fls 

HAVE THEY READ IT ???

i m not sure ......  i think they want want want 

they want to know themes changed between 1.2 and  1.2.5FLS

have they read our news ?  and i think Windmeup write it also in german=
 language 

1 Now eNvo have also style for Mozilla browser, so designer can make=
 specific style for Mozilla users.
2 Big fonts troubles - fixed

that is differences ......... 

but why they don't start to write something ? tutorial text theme  any thing=
 is good to contribute

TiMax






On 05 Jul 2003 14:00:23 +0200, Christoph Schwaeppe wrote:
>  Hi friends,
>
>  what's going on with the germna-speaking eNvo support-site? Meanwhile
>  I'm the only active admin and supporter there. I don't hear anything
>  from Windmeup and Naphta since nearly two eeks. Did there happen any
>  trouble, I didn't get any notice about it?
>
>  At envo.de there is starting some rumour about that, see the thread "DAS
>  NERVT ECHT...", which means: "IT'S REALY BORING..."
>  
http://www.germany.envolution.net/modules.php?op=3Dmodload&name=3DArena_Forum&fi=
le=3Dindex&action=3Dviewtopic&topic=3D4
47&12
>
>  We have some questions about themes, I can't answer. We have some very
>  active theme-developers, which are representing a big community by
>  themselfes. They don't know, what in themes changed between 1.2 and
>  1.2.5FLS.  I can't answer there questions and they aren't able to
>  develop there themes. (Is there still any use of fontsize setting in
>  encompass? etc.)
>
>  I need some help, or we will get a serious demage in our german
>  community
>
>  hanks for Your help
>  gatonero/Christoph

Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[<Chr...@t-...>]

Hi Max;

they are able to develop own themes. Have a look at
http://cms-themes.de/. The first article there you will understand

You are right, some of them want, want and some are very fireheads. 

But I'm alone since two weeks, we didn't change envo.de to 1.2.5 until
today and there are questions I can't answer by myself. 

One question is: Are the fontsize settings in encompass still working?

Am Sam, 2003-07-05 um 14.36 schrieb TiMax:
> but are they are to develope any theme ?
> are they able to develope something ?
> i'm not sure about it .... 
> 
> anyway sorry but i don't know german language, so if you want you can post question of your users here and we try to 
> answer you ..... 
> 
> I talk with Naphta some days ago and i work a lot with Windmeup to prepare new version eNvo125FLS.
> 
> @ngelspike working to prepare some guidelines for themes and css 
> 
> pani have writed little tutorial to convert postnuke themes to envolution 
> 
> sjah have writed tutorials to work with themes zones etc ....
> 
> we have writed a readme with features of evno125fls 
> 
> HAVE THEY READ IT ???
> 
> i m not sure ......  i think they want want want 
> 
> they want to know themes changed between 1.2 and  1.2.5FLS
> 
> have they read our news ?  and i think Windmeup write it also in german language 
> 
> 1 Now eNvo have also style for Mozilla browser, so designer can make specific style for Mozilla users.
> 2 Big fonts troubles - fixed
> 
> that is differences ......... 
> 
> but why they don't start to write something ? tutorial text theme  any thing is good to contribute
> 
> TiMax
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 05 Jul 2003 14:00:23 +0200, Christoph Schwaeppe wrote:
> >  Hi friends,
> >
> >  what's going on with the germna-speaking eNvo support-site? Meanwhile
> >  I'm the only active admin and supporter there. I don't hear anything
> >  from Windmeup and Naphta since nearly two eeks. Did there happen any
> >  trouble, I didn't get any notice about it?
> >
> >  At envo.de there is starting some rumour about that, see the thread "DAS
> >  NERVT ECHT...", which means: "IT'S REALY BORING..."
> >  
> http://www.germany.envolution.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Arena_Forum&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=4
> 47&12
> >
> >  We have some questions about themes, I can't answer. We have some very
> >  active theme-developers, which are representing a big community by
> >  themselfes. They don't know, what in themes changed between 1.2 and
> >  1.2.5FLS.  I can't answer there questions and they aren't able to
> >  develop there themes. (Is there still any use of fontsize setting in
> >  encompass? etc.)
> >
> >  I need some help, or we will get a serious demage in our german
> >  community
> >
> >  hanks for Your help
> >  gatonero/Christoph
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[Scott K. <sc...@ki...>]

On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 08:20, Christoph Schwaeppe wrote:
> Hi Max;
> 
> they are able to develop own themes. Have a look at
> http://cms-themes.de/. The first article there you will understand
> 
> You are right, some of them want, want and some are very fireheads. 
> 
> But I'm alone since two weeks, we didn't change envo.de to 1.2.5 until
> today and there are questions I can't answer by myself. 
> 
> One question is: Are the fontsize settings in encompass still working?
> 

How about having each support site volunteer one member to join and keep
active on this email list. Then perhaps prior to public releases support
sites can have all the information needed about upcmoing releases prior
to it hitting the street.

In other words our support sites should be activly involoved in Envo
development instead of sitting back and waiting for things to be spoon
fed to them.

Just as Envo as a whole activly engages our end user community so too
should we as developers engage each other! But not after there is a
problem.....instead before a problem exists.

Just my two cents worth!

Zoom

Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[<Chr...@t-...>]

1) Sorry, I posted several times here, that I want to engage me much
more for eNvolution than I do until now (zero reaction), after
translating about 3.000 phrases and some manuals to german.

2) Developers should also have a look into community, WindMeUp hasn't
been at eNvo.de since about two weeks.
Am Sam, 2003-07-05 um 19.40 schrieb Scott Kindley:
> On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 08:20, Christoph Schwaeppe wrote:
> > Hi Max;
> > 
> > they are able to develop own themes. Have a look at
> > http://cms-themes.de/. The first article there you will understand
> > 
> > You are right, some of them want, want and some are very fireheads. 
> > 
> > But I'm alone since two weeks, we didn't change envo.de to 1.2.5 until
> > today and there are questions I can't answer by myself. 
> > 
> > One question is: Are the fontsize settings in encompass still working?
> > 
> 
> How about having each support site volunteer one member to join and keep
> active on this email list. Then perhaps prior to public releases support
> sites can have all the information needed about upcmoing releases prior
> to it hitting the street.
> 
> In other words our support sites should be activly involoved in Envo
> development instead of sitting back and waiting for things to be spoon
> fed to them.
> 
> Just as Envo as a whole activly engages our end user community so too
> should we as developers engage each other! But not after there is a
> problem.....instead before a problem exists.
> 
> Just my two cents worth!
> 
> Zoom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[TiMax <ma...@em...>]

On 05 Jul 2003 21:10:45 +0200, Christoph Schwaeppe wrote:
>  1) Sorry, I posted several times here, that I want to engage me much
>  more for eNvolution than I do until now (zero reaction), after
>  translating about 3.000 phrases and some manuals to german.

Please Crhistoph don't understand me bad ....... i know you work very hard=
 .... and your work is very appreciated but, 
also for that i ask you to found some helpers ..... you need help ....... 

So ask in German community someone to help you ..... 

TiMax

Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[TiMax <ma...@em...>]

On 05 Jul 2003 12:40:20 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote:
>  On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 08:20, Christoph Schwaeppe wrote:
>  > Hi Max;
>  >
>  > they are able to develop own themes. Have a look at
>  > http://cms-themes.de/. The first article there you will understand
>  >
>  > You are right, some of them want, want and some are very fireheads.
>  >
>  > But I'm alone since two weeks, we didn't change envo.de to 1.2.5 until
>  > today and there are questions I can't answer by myself.
>  >
>  > One question is: Are the fontsize settings in encompass still working?
>  >
>
>  How about having each support site volunteer one member to join and keep
>  active on this email list. Then perhaps prior to public releases support
>  sites can have all the information needed about upcmoing releases prior
>  to it hitting the street.
>
>  In other words our support sites should be activly involoved in Envo
>  development instead of sitting back and waiting for things to be spoon
>  fed to them.
>
>  Just as Envo as a whole activly engages our end user community so too
>  should we as developers engage each other! But not after there is a
>  problem.....instead before a problem exists.
>
>  Just my two cents worth!
>
>  Zoom

You are right Scott, but ... when one member ask you .... i have a problem=
 and you answer ..... what is your problem 
.... and this member insteand to tell you what is his problem go in his=
 site and start stupid flames ......

...... sorry, but i think this member is a problem ...


TiMax

Re: [Envolution-devel] URGENT: What's going on with envo.de?

[Scott K. <sc...@ki...>]

On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 18:22, TiMax wrote:
> On 05 Jul 2003 12:40:20 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote:
> >
> >  How about having each support site volunteer one member to join and keep
> >  active on this email list. Then perhaps prior to public releases support
> >  sites can have all the information needed about upcmoing releases prior
> >  to it hitting the street.
> >
> >  In other words our support sites should be activly involoved in Envo
> >  development instead of sitting back and waiting for things to be spoon
> >  fed to them.
> >
> >  Just as Envo as a whole activly engages our end user community so too
> >  should we as developers engage each other! But not after there is a
> >  problem.....instead before a problem exists.
> >
> >  Just my two cents worth!
> >
> >  Zoom
> 
> You are right Scott, but ... when one member ask you .... i have a problem and you answer ..... what is your problem 
> .... and this member insteand to tell you what is his problem go in his site and start stupid flames ......
> 
> ...... sorry, but i think this member is a problem ...
> 
> 
> TiMax
> 

You can't please everyone all the time. But we can communicate better!

That is one of the reasons we have this development email list. All
developers should use it to keep up on information and share
information. It's silly to think that developers are going to be up to
date on progress if they choose not to utilize the resources at their
disposal. That is all I was suggesting.

But we can't create rules or structure REQUIREING developers to use it
such as what Denver eluded to in his previous post. That just pushes
people away.

So...who is this person your referring to Max. I can talk to him/her and
explain this to them. This issue is really getting blown out of
proportion. It's nothing more than simple mis-communication. So instead
fo everyone trying to figure out who to blame...why don't we instead
decide to bridge the mis-communication by inviting this person into the
development list?

Zoom