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Antw: [Envolution-devel] Oracle: state of the art

[Stefan K. <Ste...@ga...>]

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Re: Antw: [Envolution-devel] Oracle: state of the art

[TiMax <ma...@em...>]

Yes german result made by italian people ...... remember=
 Shumacher lol

TiMax

On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:11:24 +0200, Stefan Koehler wrote:
>  Hey. Great work.
>  I will install the latest CVS-snapshot on our test drive.
>  Then I will tell you the *german results* ;-)
>
>  WindMeUp

[Envolution-devel] little resume from italian discussion

[TiMax <ma...@em...>]

I want to send here little resume from italian discussion, is a=
 very little resume in my very poor english, so ... start 
to decode me :


we talk about number of next release,  me and some of us think=
 1.2.1 is not good because we add some feautures in this 
release and for that we need to show it in our number release=
 maybe with 1.2.5
I remember we add Oracle integration (+/- ready), new version of=
 subjects, messages with outbox, personal avatar with 
upload, expansion of user profile, new version of RTE lot of fix=
 and clean code.

we talk about our chaos code for css, styles, classes etc .... 
about that Tchichi and @ngelspike work to clean code, to prepare=
 list of class we must use in modules and core, so all 
people use same class when write modules, blocks or themes, they=
 want to release public list in next days.
Tchichi work also to check, delete or remplace deprecated class=
 in our code 

We talk also about better and intesive use of css in eNvoution 

We talk also about sytle.php, is nice idea but i think it not=
 work very good and make envolution slowly. maybe we can 
use style.css for that, so we can have one theme with 5 style.css=
  stylered.css styleblue.css bla bla bla 

Tichichi work also around new clear theme, compatibility with=
 browsers ie opera mozilla etc and W3C 

We all agree to keep compatiblity with modules and blocks=
 Postnuke, and sure after next release we can take time to 
check and clean some modules for eNvolution 

I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and=
 explain promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic 
men power of envolution and what they can make  with eNvolution,=
 we need to have themes themes .. 

About modules and blocks i just put online www.envoaddon.com,=
 that want to be our demo site where we can show modules, 
blocks addons show with envolution, i need to work around this=
 theme a little more because it keep left colomn when i 
use logic plus, so i put online lot of modules blocks etc asap=
 ..... this site is in multilanguage mode and only with 
little news to explain " we have add this module with these=
 features .... ", people can see it in actio, but for support 
or downloads they are redirect in our support sites .....
I think that, with this site is very easy also for french user to=
 know that german user have developed module and need 
to be translated or to promote it ...

Maybe we can think also about something like xaraya, one=
 repository where we or developer can assign number for each 
module and let know people about what he mean develope and status=
 of developement.

Ok for now is good ..... that si only some suggestion we can=
 start talk about ..... 

So people... i read nothing about who have time to be lead=
 developer, so i repeat my question:

=09=09=09=09Who have time and want to be lead developer ?

TiMax 
  

Re: [Envolution-devel] little resume from italian discussion

[Sjahrazad A. <sja...@ba...>]

On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:03:49 -0400, TiMax wrote
> [...]
> I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and explain 
> promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic men power of 
> envolution and what they can make  with eNvolution, we need to have 
> themes themes .. [...]

Hi All,

I want to share ideas for the next installation release

1. We create a simple theme name Default as a default theme. It should be 
more functional rather than stylist theme, less of images except eNvo logo, 
less of scripts, clean, white background, not grey :) and only with text 
links on the left column such as Home, Admin, Help etc. Doing this way we 
can avoid any errors found for the first time installation which some times 
came from the themes nested tables, scripts, lost of tags etc. We also don't 
need to activate listed of modules links, reminder blocks, such as pn style. 
Then if they click the admin, they should see a consistent navigation 
structure.

2. The default theme is not intend to show-off rendering capabilities, but 
as the first tool for the web master to configure his site. Arrange the 
settings, activate the modules, setting users /groups, permission system 
etc. So if he found errors or bugs using the default theme, we know that the 
errors is not occur from the theme. We also suggest the users not to delete 
the Default theme. 

3. We create procedures for webmaster to configure his site for the first 
time installation. Such as go first to the setting, modules, blocks etc. We 
define two types of modules, main modules and addons modules. So we can 
concentrate to clean up the main modules completely, including consistent in 
user navigations, help page, multi lang etc. For i.e we concentrate in 
Subjects and Arena Forum modules, make it more consistent.

4. To showoff the eNvo capabilites, we create layout possibilities snapshot 
as much as possible. Corporate style, weblog style, designers style, fancy, 
etc. Some snapshot images are available in the encompass page as standard 
themes, which should be tested first, free of errors. So if they install 
another theme which is not the standard theme and found errors, they will 
know its about the theme not eNvo.

5. To make the designers enthusiast supporting eNvo themes, we can announce 
in our theme channel for i.e the 'eNvo Theme for this month'. Also what 
TiMax suggestion about the theme competition with rewards is also a great 
idea. I think we can choose the right timing to announce this, maybe after 
the next release.

sjah

Re: [Envolution-devel] little resume from italian discussion

[<Chr...@t-...>]

Sjahrazad Alamsjah wrote:

>On Wed, 28 May 2003 11:03:49 -0400, TiMax wrote
>  
>
>>[...]
>>I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and explain 
>>promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic men power of 
>>envolution and what they can make  with eNvolution, we need to have 
>>themes themes .. [...]
>>    
>>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I want to share ideas for the next installation release
>
>1. We create a simple theme name Default as a default theme. It should be 
>more functional rather than stylist theme, less of images except eNvo logo, 
>less of scripts, clean, white background, not grey :) and only with text 
>links on the left column such as Home, Admin, Help etc. Doing this way we 
>can avoid any errors found for the first time installation which some times 
>came from the themes nested tables, scripts, lost of tags etc. We also don't 
>need to activate listed of modules links, reminder blocks, such as pn style. 
>Then if they click the admin, they should see a consistent navigation 
>structure.
>
>2. The default theme is not intend to show-off rendering capabilities, but 
>as the first tool for the web master to configure his site. Arrange the 
>settings, activate the modules, setting users /groups, permission system 
>etc. So if he found errors or bugs using the default theme, we know that the 
>errors is not occur from the theme. We also suggest the users not to delete 
>the Default theme. 
>
>3. We create procedures for webmaster to configure his site for the first 
>time installation. Such as go first to the setting, modules, blocks etc. We 
>define two types of modules, main modules and addons modules. So we can 
>concentrate to clean up the main modules completely, including consistent in 
>user navigations, help page, multi lang etc. For i.e we concentrate in 
>Subjects and Arena Forum modules, make it more consistent.
>
>4. To showoff the eNvo capabilites, we create layout possibilities snapshot 
>as much as possible. Corporate style, weblog style, designers style, fancy, 
>etc. Some snapshot images are available in the encompass page as standard 
>themes, which should be tested first, free of errors. So if they install 
>another theme which is not the standard theme and found errors, they will 
>know its about the theme not eNvo.
>
>5. To make the designers enthusiast supporting eNvo themes, we can announce 
>in our theme channel for i.e the 'eNvo Theme for this month'. Also what 
>TiMax suggestion about the theme competition with rewards is also a great 
>idea. I think we can choose the right timing to announce this, maybe after 
>the next release.
>
>sjah
>
>
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This would be a great deal for first time users, experienced users and 
eNvo also ;-)

gatoNero/Christoph

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Re: [Envolution-devel] little resume from italian discussion

[<Chr...@t-...>]

TiMax wrote:

>I want to send here little resume from italian discussion, is a very little resume in my very poor english, so ... start 
>to decode me :
>
>
>we talk about number of next release,  me and some of us think 1.2.1 is not good because we add some feautures in this 
>release and for that we need to show it in our number release maybe with 1.2.5
>I remember we add Oracle integration (+/- ready), new version of subjects, messages with outbox, personal avatar with 
>upload, expansion of user profile, new version of RTE lot of fix and clean code.
>
>we talk about our chaos code for css, styles, classes etc .... 
>about that Tchichi and @ngelspike work to clean code, to prepare list of class we must use in modules and core, so all 
>people use same class when write modules, blocks or themes, they want to release public list in next days.
>Tchichi work also to check, delete or remplace deprecated class in our code 
>
>We talk also about better and intesive use of css in eNvoution 
>
>We talk also about sytle.php, is nice idea but i think it not work very good and make envolution slowly. maybe we can 
>use style.css for that, so we can have one theme with 5 style.css  stylered.css styleblue.css bla bla bla 
>
>Tichichi work also around new clear theme, compatibility with browsers ie opera mozilla etc and W3C 
>
>We all agree to keep compatiblity with modules and blocks Postnuke, and sure after next release we can take time to 
>check and clean some modules for eNvolution 
>
>I think also we need to promote explain promote explain and explain promote eNvolution to let know people and graphic 
>men power of envolution and what they can make  with eNvolution, we need to have themes themes .. 
>
>About modules and blocks i just put online www.envoaddon.com, that want to be our demo site where we can show modules, 
>blocks addons show with envolution, i need to work around this theme a little more because it keep left colomn when i 
>use logic plus, so i put online lot of modules blocks etc asap ..... this site is in multilanguage mode and only with 
>little news to explain " we have add this module with these features .... ", people can see it in actio, but for support 
>or downloads they are redirect in our support sites .....
>I think that, with this site is very easy also for french user to know that german user have developed module and need 
>to be translated or to promote it ...
>
>Maybe we can think also about something like xaraya, one repository where we or developer can assign number for each 
>module and let know people about what he mean develope and status of developement.
>
>Ok for now is good ..... that si only some suggestion we can start talk about ..... 
>
>So people... i read nothing about who have time to be lead developer, so i repeat my question:
>
>				Who have time and want to be lead developer ?
>
>TiMax 
>  
>  
>
Do the italian people know something about our discussion?

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