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From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-08-03 05:03:56
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This announcement is to inform the Envolution Community how we will be implementing navigation to our International Support Sites and how those websites interact with each other based on the input and feedback from the organizational meeting held Aug 2, 2003. The Envolution International Network of websites is just that, a network. So as a network there are some guidelines and requirements to be considered an Official Envolution International Website. To create a network which functions in a similar manner and provides a clear and concise image and web presence to the public at large our community has voted to implement these changes in policy toward networked Envolution websites. Once again, these policies do not affect non-official websites or enthusiast websites they are specifically for Official Envolution International Websites. 1) This section will describe URL naming conventions and how navigation and forwarding to Official Envolution International Websites will take place. I will use an example to illustrate how we will be implementing this. Stefan K=C3=B6hler is the webmaster of the Official German Envolution International Website. He currently manages the envolution.de domain. People who wish to access support in the German language will still be able to acces that site with the familiar domain name envolution.de, so nothing in regard to that changes. We will however place the envolution.net domain seperate from the envolution.com content. The envolution.net domain is defined by the .net top level domain designation which is an internet standard for identifying networks. We will place a single webpage up on the envolution.net website that lists each Official Envolution International Network Website individually. Information will contain contact names for each Official Envolution International Website along with a brief welcoming message=20 in the language appropriate to each website. Links will be provided for the Official Envolution International Website in this format: http://www.germany.envolution.net http://www.germany.envolution.com http://www.germany.envolution.org http://www.germany.envolution.info http://www.germany.envolution.biz All five of the Envolution top level domains need not be listed if that is not preferred by the Official Envoltuion International Website Manager. But they can be.=20 2) This section will cover the requirements and guidelines for being appointed an Official Envolution International Website. a) All Official Envolution International Websites will be required to maintain a similar look and feel. That is to say that each Official Envolution International Website must be running the Envolution CMS. They should have the same theme but may have different colors and such. For example of this take a look at http://www.germany.envolution.net. It has the same theme as the Envolution.com website...yet still maintains it's own identity by the use of different graphics and colors. b) All Official Envolution International Websites will also designate someone who can interact with the main Envolution.com staff to coordinate news and translations of news. The primary contact from International Websites to the main Envolution.com website should be coordinated with the Project Manager ApathyBoy. c) All Official Envolution International Websites will need to provide reciprocal links back to other Official Envolution International Websites, including the main Envolution.com website using the same URL naming conventions described above in section one. The reasons for this policy implementation is to help overcome communication barriers between all the different cultures and languages our community uses. By providing the reciprocal links we truley will become a network of international websites. It also gives a constant URL naming convention for visitors to use that still identifies the Envolution brand and allows individual maintainers of the websites to concentrate on support and development instead of DNS issues.=20 It also does not lock Envolution into a particular server should an Official International Website change. If for example the current Official Envolution International Website becomes inactive or chooses not to support the Envolution project we can simply redesginate the domains to a website that will take it's place. This policy protects the community and preserves the ability of individual official international websites to act independantly of the main Envolution.com website to better serve the support and language needs of their constituants. These policies were discussed and voted upon in the Organizational meeting on August 2, 2003 without objection. |
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From: Eric B. <apa...@xe...> - 2003-08-03 05:13:38
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Just a quick addon to this, Over the next few days i will be making contact with all of the current Support Managers to help them out and answer any questions they have on this. Many support sites will not see a change because they have already been following this as far as communication goes. All this is meant to do is to help everyone keep in communication with each other. Communication is the key to making Envolution the best project around :) Thanks! Eric Barr (a.k.a. ApathyBoy) Project Manager - Envolution ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Kindley" <sc...@ki...> To: "Evolution-Dev-List" <env...@li...> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:03 AM Subject: [Envolution-devel] Envolution Official International Website Policy This announcement is to inform the Envolution Community how we will be implementing navigation to our International Support Sites and how those websites interact with each other based on the input and feedback from the organizational meeting held Aug 2, 2003. The Envolution International Network of websites is just that, a network. So as a network there are some guidelines and requirements to be considered an Official Envolution International Website. To create a network which functions in a similar manner and provides a clear and concise image and web presence to the public at large our community has voted to implement these changes in policy toward networked Envolution websites. Once again, these policies do not affect non-official websites or enthusiast websites they are specifically for Official Envolution International Websites. 1) This section will describe URL naming conventions and how navigation and forwarding to Official Envolution International Websites will take place. I will use an example to illustrate how we will be implementing this. Stefan Köhler is the webmaster of the Official German Envolution International Website. He currently manages the envolution.de domain. People who wish to access support in the German language will still be able to acces that site with the familiar domain name envolution.de, so nothing in regard to that changes. We will however place the envolution.net domain seperate from the envolution.com content. The envolution.net domain is defined by the .net top level domain designation which is an internet standard for identifying networks. We will place a single webpage up on the envolution.net website that lists each Official Envolution International Network Website individually. Information will contain contact names for each Official Envolution International Website along with a brief welcoming message in the language appropriate to each website. Links will be provided for the Official Envolution International Website in this format: http://www.germany.envolution.net http://www.germany.envolution.com http://www.germany.envolution.org http://www.germany.envolution.info http://www.germany.envolution.biz All five of the Envolution top level domains need not be listed if that is not preferred by the Official Envoltuion International Website Manager. But they can be. 2) This section will cover the requirements and guidelines for being appointed an Official Envolution International Website. a) All Official Envolution International Websites will be required to maintain a similar look and feel. That is to say that each Official Envolution International Website must be running the Envolution CMS. They should have the same theme but may have different colors and such. For example of this take a look at http://www.germany.envolution.net. It has the same theme as the Envolution.com website...yet still maintains it's own identity by the use of different graphics and colors. b) All Official Envolution International Websites will also designate someone who can interact with the main Envolution.com staff to coordinate news and translations of news. The primary contact from International Websites to the main Envolution.com website should be coordinated with the Project Manager ApathyBoy. c) All Official Envolution International Websites will need to provide reciprocal links back to other Official Envolution International Websites, including the main Envolution.com website using the same URL naming conventions described above in section one. The reasons for this policy implementation is to help overcome communication barriers between all the different cultures and languages our community uses. By providing the reciprocal links we truley will become a network of international websites. It also gives a constant URL naming convention for visitors to use that still identifies the Envolution brand and allows individual maintainers of the websites to concentrate on support and development instead of DNS issues. It also does not lock Envolution into a particular server should an Official International Website change. If for example the current Official Envolution International Website becomes inactive or chooses not to support the Envolution project we can simply redesginate the domains to a website that will take it's place. This policy protects the community and preserves the ability of individual official international websites to act independantly of the main Envolution.com website to better serve the support and language needs of their constituants. These policies were discussed and voted upon in the Organizational meeting on August 2, 2003 without objection. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Envolution-devel mailing list Env...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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From: tinta <ti...@au...> - 2003-08-03 22:54:53
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> These policies were discussed and voted upon in the Organizational > meeting on August 2, 2003 without objection. Hi, I'm webmaster of the Polish Support Site for eNvolution. I would ask you to remove my site from the list of the Official eNvolution Support. The reason of my decision are the last events in the leadership, which I do not accept, especially changing the Roadmap without deriving the community opinion and asking it for approve the changes. I think the only discourse of several people on IRC channel is not enough, especially that the news according to the Roadmap was published earlier. Before decide about it ir should be made any public opinion poll or any question addressed to the users or so one... I think the community cannot be ignored. This mistake was made by other project leaders and developers and it has not increased their and theirs projects popularity. Envolution Project includes a lot of people disppointed with the CMSs like PostNuke or PHPNuke and their developing ways, they have moved to eNvolution because only it has promissed the active contribution of community in the project develop. Changing the Roadmap with no community opinion you have clearly shown that you do not intend to respect it. Also inner contests happening last time on envolution-devel mailing list have not to do with the project developing, they are just the war which doesn't bring on anything new nor good. I think also the redirecting of provious sites' URLs to the new ones like "www.germany.envolution.com" is not a good idea, mostly because any envonet site webmaster wouldn't have any warranty the site would not be redirected to the other site if he makes something you don't like. Reading last posts on envolution-devel I see you don't respect the merits of people who have made a lot for the Project. I'm not going to stop my site but I want to support eNvolution for the Polish Community unofficilly and in my own way. I don't think I will lose anything doing this, because the help and support from you is comparable to the naught, you are too busy only with your inner accounts to serve any help to international supporters. A month ago I made the same decision about the PHPNuke Support Site and I must say the site has just gained by it - a lot of users have not agreed with the FB's politics and disclaiming the Official Support I just earned popularity and more active user's contribution in the site development. I consider also that after TiMax leaving you should show you can maintain everything what has been done up to now, and not to make the revolution changing everything possible - eNvolution is has not yet the position strong enough to lose the popularity among regular users and Community Members. On the end I would like to tell that I'm not going to judge or attack anybody personally - that is only my privat opinion of the recent eNvolution situation, so please do not me attack too. Best Regards and Good Luck |
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From: Eric B. <apa...@xe...> - 2003-08-03 23:04:29
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Hello, I would just like to say that I respect your personal opinion and there will be no attack made on you. I wish you much luck with your support site and anything that I can do to help you out just ask and I would be glad to do it. There has been a lot of misunderstanding about what has taken place, and also much anger on the development lists. I hope that over time these things can be cleared up and that you will see that I am making an effort to help everybody in all communities. Keep up the good work with the Polish Support Site and again let me know if there is ever anything I can do to help. Thanks, Eric Barr Project Manager - Envolution ----- Original Message ----- From: "tinta" <ti...@au...> To: <env...@li...> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Envolution-devel] Envolution Official International Website Policy > > These policies were discussed and voted upon in the Organizational > > meeting on August 2, 2003 without objection. > > Hi, I'm webmaster of the Polish Support Site for eNvolution. > > I would ask you to remove my site from the list of the Official eNvolution > Support. The reason of my decision are the last events in the leadership, > which I do not accept, especially changing the Roadmap without deriving the > community opinion and asking it for approve the changes. I think the only > discourse of several people on IRC channel is not enough, especially that the > news according to the Roadmap was published earlier. Before decide about it > ir should be made any public opinion poll or any question addressed to the > users or so one... I think the community cannot be ignored. This mistake was > made by other project leaders and developers and it has not increased their > and theirs projects popularity. Envolution Project includes a lot of people > disppointed with the CMSs like PostNuke or PHPNuke and their developing ways, > they have moved to eNvolution because only it has promissed the active > contribution of community in the project develop. Changing the Roadmap with > no community opinion you have clearly shown that you do not intend to respect > it. > Also inner contests happening last time on envolution-devel mailing list have > not to do with the project developing, they are just the war which doesn't > bring on anything new nor good. I think also the redirecting of provious > sites' URLs to the new ones like "www.germany.envolution.com" is not a good > idea, mostly because any envonet site webmaster wouldn't have any warranty > the site would not be redirected to the other site if he makes something you > don't like. Reading last posts on envolution-devel I see you don't respect > the merits of people who have made a lot for the Project. > I'm not going to stop my site but I want to support eNvolution for the Polish > Community unofficilly and in my own way. I don't think I will lose anything > doing this, because the help and support from you is comparable to the > naught, you are too busy only with your inner accounts to serve any help to > international supporters. A month ago I made the same decision about the > PHPNuke Support Site and I must say the site has just gained by it - a lot of > users have not agreed with the FB's politics and disclaiming the Official > Support I just earned popularity and more active user's contribution in the > site development. > I consider also that after TiMax leaving you should show you can maintain > everything what has been done up to now, and not to make the revolution > changing everything possible - eNvolution is has not yet the position strong > enough to lose the popularity among regular users and Community Members. > On the end I would like to tell that I'm not going to judge or attack anybody > personally - that is only my privat opinion of the recent eNvolution > situation, so please do not me attack too. > Best Regards and Good Luck > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > |
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From: <Chr...@t-...> - 2003-08-04 00:46:37
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I'm gatoNero, one of three webmaster of eNvolution.de and german localization director. I have been just a week in holiday until today. Now I'm very suprised what happened meanwhile. It's hard for me to understand, to develop ENISS guidelines in a chat. Specially because I made several suggestions, how to organize the content of ENISS sites, like FAQ and download structure etc. I'm not shure, that this is what we need. It sounds like a decret to me.=20 Am Son, 2003-08-03 um 07.03 schrieb Scott Kindley: > This announcement is to inform the Envolution Community how we will be > implementing navigation to our International Support Sites and how those > websites interact with each other based on the input and feedback from > the organizational meeting held Aug 2, 2003. >=20 > The Envolution International Network of websites is just that, a > network. So as a network there are some guidelines and requirements to > be considered an Official Envolution International Website. >=20 > To create a network which functions in a similar manner and provides a > clear and concise image and web presence to the public at large our > community has voted to implement these changes in policy toward > networked Envolution websites. Once again, these policies do not affect > non-official websites or enthusiast websites they are specifically for > Official Envolution International Websites. >=20 > 1) This section will describe URL naming conventions and how navigation > and forwarding to Official Envolution International Websites will take > place. I will use an example to illustrate how we will be implementing > this. >=20 > Stefan K=F6hler is the webmaster of the Official German Envolution > International Website. He currently manages the envolution.de domain. > People who wish to access support in the German language will still be > able to acces that site with the familiar domain name envolution.de, so > nothing in regard to that changes. >=20 > We will however place the envolution.net domain seperate from the > envolution.com content. The envolution.net domain is defined by the .net > top level domain designation which is an internet standard for > identifying networks. >=20 > We will place a single webpage up on the envolution.net website that > lists each Official Envolution International Network Website > individually. Information will contain contact names for each Official > Envolution International Website along with a brief welcoming message=20 > in the language appropriate to each website. Links will be provided for > the Official Envolution International Website in this format: >=20 > http://www.germany.envolution.net > http://www.germany.envolution.com > http://www.germany.envolution.org > http://www.germany.envolution.info > http://www.germany.envolution.biz >=20 > All five of the Envolution top level domains need not be listed if that > is not preferred by the Official Envoltuion International Website > Manager. But they can be.=20 >=20 >=20 > 2) This section will cover the requirements and guidelines for being > appointed an Official Envolution International Website. >=20 > a) All Official Envolution International Websites will be required to > maintain a similar look and feel. That is to say that each Official > Envolution International Website must be running the Envolution CMS. > They should have the same theme but may have different colors and such. > For example of this take a look at http://www.germany.envolution.net. It > has the same theme as the Envolution.com website...yet still maintains > it's own identity by the use of different graphics and colors. >=20 > b) All Official Envolution International Websites will also designate > someone who can interact with the main Envolution.com staff to > coordinate news and translations of news. The primary contact from > International Websites to the main Envolution.com website should be > coordinated with the Project Manager ApathyBoy. >=20 > c) All Official Envolution International Websites will need to provide > reciprocal links back to other Official Envolution International > Websites, including the main Envolution.com website using the same URL > naming conventions described above in section one. >=20 > The reasons for this policy implementation is to help overcome > communication barriers between all the different cultures and languages > our community uses. By providing the reciprocal links we truley will > become a network of international websites. It also gives a constant URL > naming convention for visitors to use that still identifies the > Envolution brand and allows individual maintainers of the websites to > concentrate on support and development instead of DNS issues.=20 >=20 > It also does not lock Envolution into a particular server should an > Official International Website change. If for example the current > Official Envolution International Website becomes inactive or chooses > not to support the Envolution project we can simply redesginate the > domains to a website that will take it's place. This policy protects the > community and preserves the ability of individual official international > websites to act independantly of the main Envolution.com website to > better serve the support and language needs of their constituants. >=20 > These policies were discussed and voted upon in the Organizational > meeting on August 2, 2003 without objection. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/= 01 > _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel |
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