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From: Sjahrazad A. <sja...@ba...> - 2003-07-16 19:12:19
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See the tags below, I used this in Borobudur3D. I made a test mixing the css for left, center and right blocks in the file template. Its only need around 40 lines compare to the original html around 200 lines. You can see the result at http://www.uiarch.org/index.php?name=Cnl_Blocks It's really helpfull for designing the layout, or avoiding missing closing tags etc, but my question is, about the browser compatibility. Can we start playing around css stuff? what do you think? sjah <!-- BODY HEADER Start --> [-$ZBACKGROUND-] [-$ZVARIABLE1-] [-$ZVARIABLE2-] <!-- BODY HEADER End --> <!-- ZONE LOGO Start --> [-$ZLAYOUTOPEN-] <div id="mainleft">[-$ZMAINLOGO-][-$ZLOGO-]</div><BR> <div id="mainchannel">[-$ZCHANNEL-]</div><BR> <div id="mainchannel">[-$GREETING-]</div> [-$ZLAYOUTCLOSE-] <!-- ZONE LOGO End --> [-$ZLAYOUTOPEN-] <div id="mainleft">[-$LEFTBLOCKS-]</div> <div id="maincenter">[-$MAINCONTENT-]</div> <div id="mainright">[-$RIGHTBLOCKS-]</div> [-$ZLAYOUTCLOSE-] <!-- ZONE 3 COL SIDE End --> <!-- SEPERATOR LINE --> [-$ZVARIABLE2-] <!-- SEPERATOR LINE --> <!-- FOOTER Start --> [-$ZVARIABLE3-] [-$ZVARIABLE2-] [-$ZLAYOUTOPEN-] [-$ZTABLEOPEN-] [-$ZROWOPEN-] <td width="100%" align="right" valign="top" bgcolor="[-$BGCOLOR3-]"> <span class="pn-sub"> [-FOOTMSG-] </span>[-$ZCOLUMNCLOSE-] [-$ZROWCLOSE-] [-$ZTABLECLOSE-] [-$ZLAYOUTCLOSE-] <!-- FOOTER End --> [-$ZVARIABLE2-] [-$ZVARIABLE4-] <!-- Generate Closing line --> [-$ZVARIABLE1-] |
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From: Scott K. <sc...@ki...> - 2003-07-16 20:48:37
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On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:12, Sjahrazad Alamsjah wrote: > See the tags below, I used this in Borobudur3D. I made a test mixing the css > for left, center and right blocks in the file template. Its only need around > 40 lines compare to the original html around 200 lines. You can see the > result at http://www.uiarch.org/index.php?name=Cnl_Blocks > > It's really helpfull for designing the layout, or avoiding missing closing > tags etc, but my question is, about the browser compatibility. Can we start > playing around css stuff? what do you think? > > sjah > > Bets thing to do to acheive browser compatability is to stick with W3C standard. We can validate CSS files by URL, Upload, of Text box (via cut-n-paste) at this site: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ Zoom |
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From: Sjahrazad A. <sja...@ba...> - 2003-07-17 02:10:27
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Sometimes I used the validator for static html, and mostly never passed it:) And for the source like nuke family I doubt we can use the validator, not only for the css, the html tags also will not valid. Lot of html tags in all of core / modules files which are not following the html standard. I just thinking if we can start ignoring the Netscape 4 below, assuming in 2004 lot of users will use the newest browser. Because if we mixed the css inside the templates it will reduced unneccessary nested tables, make it better for rendering speed sjah On 16 Jul 2003 15:46:40 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote > On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:12, Sjahrazad Alamsjah wrote: > > See the tags below, I used this in Borobudur3D. I made a test mixing the css > > for left, center and right blocks in the file template. Its only need around > > 40 lines compare to the original html around 200 lines. You can see the > > result at http://www.uiarch.org/index.php?name=Cnl_Blocks > > > > It's really helpfull for designing the layout, or avoiding missing closing > > tags etc, but my question is, about the browser compatibility. Can we start > > playing around css stuff? what do you think? > > > > sjah > > > > > > Bets thing to do to acheive browser compatability is to stick with > W3C standard. > > We can validate CSS files by URL, Upload, of Text box (via cut-n- > paste) at this site: > > http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ > > Zoom > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware > With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. > WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the > same time. Free trial click here: > http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 _______________________________________________ > Envolution-devel mailing list > Env...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel Best regards, sjah |
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From: Avv. U. M. M. <um...@ma...> - 2003-07-17 07:20:47
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I'm working to let envolution xhtml1.0transitional/CSS compliance with = w3c standards and validators I prepared a draft from Michelangelo theme and it's almost ready I absolutely agree (and TiMax is with me) to abandon the NS4 support Some of my changes and suggestions were used for the 125FLS release I'd like to have a look to the new Borobudur3d theme... ad I'm also = working for a guideline draft for the use of css in envolution we can work = together on this Let me know... you can email me privately. Umberto Maria Malandrucco ______________________________ Avv. Umberto Maria Malandrucco Studio Legale Malandrucco viale XXI Aprile, 53 =96 04100 Latina tel. 0773 692608 =96 fax 0773 472107 fax2mail/voice box 178 609 7368 e-mail: um...@ma... internet: www.malandrucco.it=20 >-----Messaggio originale----- >Da: env...@li... = [mailto:envolution-devel- >ad...@li...] Per conto di Sjahrazad Alamsjah >Inviato: gioved=EC 17 luglio 2003 4.10 >A: env...@li... >Oggetto: Re: [Envolution-devel] CSS in Borobudur3D > >Sometimes I used the validator for static html, and mostly never passed >it:) > >And for the source like nuke family I doubt we can use the validator, = not >only for the css, the html tags also will not valid. Lot of html tags = in >all >of core / modules files which are not following the html standard. > >I just thinking if we can start ignoring the Netscape 4 below, assuming = in >2004 lot of users will use the newest browser. > >Because if we mixed the css inside the templates it will reduced >unneccessary nested tables, make it better for rendering speed > >sjah > >On 16 Jul 2003 15:46:40 -0500, Scott Kindley wrote >> On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 14:12, Sjahrazad Alamsjah wrote: >> > See the tags below, I used this in Borobudur3D. I made a test = mixing >the >css >> > for left, center and right blocks in the file template. Its only = need >around >> > 40 lines compare to the original html around 200 lines. You can see = the >> > result at http://www.uiarch.org/index.php?name=3DCnl_Blocks >> > >> > It's really helpfull for designing the layout, or avoiding missing >closing >> > tags etc, but my question is, about the browser compatibility. Can = we >start >> > playing around css stuff? what do you think? >> > >> > sjah >> > >> > >> >> Bets thing to do to acheive browser compatability is to stick with >> W3C standard. >> >> We can validate CSS files by URL, Upload, of Text box (via cut-n- >> paste) at this site: >> >> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ >> >> Zoom >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware >> With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single = machine. >> WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at = the >> same time. Free trial click here: >> http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 >_______________________________________________ >> Envolution-devel mailing list >> Env...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > > > >Best regards, >sjah > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware >With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. >WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the >same time. Free trial click here: http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/345/0 >_______________________________________________ >Envolution-devel mailing list >Env...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/envolution-devel > |
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From: Sjahrazad A. <sja...@ba...> - 2003-07-17 12:28:16
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Thats great! If not too late at home I'll finish the Borobudur3d and send you the zip=20 files, so you can make a test. Please consider this is only on concept id= ea=20 stage. I'm not php expert, and did a dirty hack in encompass files, so an= y=20 suggestions to make it better are welcome. I'll let you know. sjah On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:23:22 +0200, Avv. Umberto Maria Malandrucco wrote > I'm working to let envolution xhtml1.0transitional/CSS compliance=20 > with w3c standards and validators I prepared a draft from=20 > Michelangelo theme and it's almost ready I absolutely agree (and=20 > TiMax is with me) to abandon the NS4 support Some of my changes and=20 > suggestions were used for the 125FLS release I'd like to have a look=20 > to the new Borobudur3d theme... ad I'm also working for a guideline=20 > draft for the use of css in envolution we can work together on this=20 > Let me know... you can email me privately. >=20 > Umberto Maria Malandrucco > ______________________________ > Avv. Umberto Maria Malandrucco > Studio Legale Malandrucco > viale XXI Aprile, 53 =96 04100 Latina > tel. 0773 692608 =96 fax 0773 472107 > fax2mail/voice box 178 609 7368 > e-mail: um...@ma... > internet: www.malandrucco.it=20 |
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